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Originally Posted by flogger
I predict Sanc will withdraw @ min-time from this conflict..... with more acres, giving simians 3/3
As skraz said, Fury leadership has changed dramatically over the last two ages. The kingdom was close to disbanding yet has rebuilt and has had a complete overhaul, including council and core players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meeni
We are not claiming to be elite, we never have, we are merely going about our business and trying to achieve our goals and in recent times that has involved warring top kingdoms. We win some and we lose some, thats just part of the game.
Rubbish is a bit of a harsh evaluation.
its funny how all these warring ghettos claim to be good. bio and simians have been performing well so far, but OS is just sub par. maybe thats why fury didnt get the deserved respect after its overhaul, since they just farmed a ghetto. fratzia/sleepy (shell or w/e it is) got farmed twice in a row. better pull up ur socks lol
I started respecting Fury once skraz and ervgotti took over leadership. They're solid and they're likeable. That goes a long way for a KD.
Some other KD's... they just live off their past precedence and are merely a fragment of what the name is reputed to be.
sanct going to get farmed imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by DDodge
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Originally Posted by KuhaN
so how is the war going?
E_boko! pwn them with your sillraps!
I hear rumours of the troll king not doing so well, could it be?
If Anri is as good as he claims to be, he shouldn't have any problems with Sanc. Fury should have changed name because "yet has rebuilt and has had a complete overhaul, including council and core players."
Cheers!
Do we have a CE update? I liked having updates in the Rage-BIO war!
uh so top 10 nw kd vs bottom 10 nw kd - who wins? if there is no correlation, it's a toss-up huhQuote:
Originally Posted by baka
Total Attacks Made: 82 (15487 acres)
-- Traditional March: 75 (15152 acres)
-- Conquest: 3 (259 acres)
-- Ambush: 1 (76 acres)
-- Failed Attacks: 3 (3.7% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 96 (12551 acres)
-- Traditional March: 87 (11869 acres)
-- Ambush: 7 (682 acres)
-- Failed Attacks: 2 (2.1% failure)
The Kingdom of (xx:xx)
Total acres exchanged: +2936 acres (82/96)
This is through 22 hours - May only - so is slightly out of date. Simians is about halfway through their third wave; sanc's third wave begins shortly. With both kingdoms having abundant pool the numbers would be fairly different from the other side. Overall I'd say the war is rather even. Activity is mediocre on both sides.
nice locQuote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
It would be much more helpful for you to report such posts, rather than replying to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by brickwolfman
jdorje counts war only. We sent lots of troops out into fort stance and gave them button more then willingly.
We can post summary closer to the end when sanctuary has withdrawn from war.
I must say we had big problems thou, not with sanctuary itself but our bot and external intel page went down with its server.
All ops/intel been gone and had to be updated over and over. We double casted many spells and had go "old school" using the forum only for ops, attacks and intel.
We got the bot back 30 minutes ago and started to update all we can the best way we can. Both intel and old and new ops starting to get updated.
Finaly getting back on track. It has been a big chaotic disorganization. When i have not been working i been spending more time on bots then on the war itself.
From here on out we will do our best to win over sanc and get as much acres/honor as we can while winning over them.
The only thing i agree with is mediocre activity, but its picking up...
GL jdorje
For the period of May 2 of YR5 to June 2 of YR5 (25 hours)Quote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
-- By UPCF [0.99c] http://www.k3ltic.com/utopia/prince
** Summary **
Total Attacks Made: 108 (14769 acres)
-- Traditional March: 97 (13899 acres)
-- Ambush: 9 (870 acres)
-- Failed Attacks: 2 (1.9% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 82 (14368 acres)
-- Traditional March: 78 (14292 acres)
-- Ambush: 1 (76 acres)
-- Failed Attacks: 3 (3.7% failure)
The Kingdom of (xx:xx)
Total acres exchanged: +401 acres (108/82)
Including hostile with us hitting into Fort stance
That was our whole papers from May, including your hostile wave. Obviously waving for 1500 acres into fortified cost you 1500 acres in potential gains. But you also got an extra half-wave in that time period. Chaining is fairly even; networth (aka troops) are fairly even; acres are a slight advantage to us but that's short-term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Simians seems to have given up on opping our cow though. A bit surprising after their claim that the "cow was dead the minute we retalled". And I guess the plan to "aid the big avian some soldiers to hit that fat faery" didn't come off either.
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
GL to simians as well.
Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising messages, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by DHaran
Do locs count as well?
If you replace xx:xx with (kd:1), (kd:2) etc I will start reporting as well. If you erase all kd locs, it becomes very hard to follow. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by DHaran
Remember simians started with an advantage :P
FYI, I am banning people who know the rules on locs and ignore them. I'm tired of editing posts every 5 minutes.
Ban for posting locs - yes, ban for not reporting them - no :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DHaran
Bio outplayed rage, ghetto cats outplayed Sanct, and arguably best warring KD FS owned Simians who are doing real well recently warring nw kd's despite fighting 30% up their nw and using strat and playstyle that every top NW player on these boards say is outdated and useless and only used by ghettos.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
I'd say such qualificatiokns are best kept on case to case basis.
Anyway gl to both KD's, nice to see so much action in the top these days and this early
*Bans MA*
BiO gained acres on rage, but they also withdrew at mintime up a wave, which implies that had they stayed in the war they were going to lose and they were therefore at the most gains they would be at. If they were in a position to gain more acres, they would not have withdrawn. Given the small losses Rage sustained, I would think that more accurately should be described as "BiO did a good job of realizing their strengths and played well" more so than "BiO outplayed Rage". It's a small difference. In both cases, the argument is that BiO played well. But I think maybe it's a stretch to use the word "outplayed".Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
Then again, I only have the info that has been given on these forums to go by. Perhaps you know some things I don't.
No it doesn't...Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaNub
I vote uotpianub for most unbiased poster on these boards.
Well at lest parts of him that still arent all the way into Abs sfinkter ...
If staying in war was going to net them more gains, why would they withdraw? You don't withdraw if you are up and going to be even more up going forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Of course I'm biased. We all decide which side we think is "right" based upon whatever data we have and whatever our assumptions are. Everyone on these forums is biased.Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
And I will freely admit that I tend to look at abs as a positive force for the game. They have enforced their definition of proper play on the game for most of its history. For the most part, that has meant 1v1 conflicts. I think the alternative idea that if abs never existed things would be so much better is clearly naive. Just look at what other "anti-abs" alliances have done. Lots of 2v1's and gangbangs and shady stuff. By this point in the game's history everything can be said to be "retaliation" for some earlier action, and I'm fairly sure none of us can trace it all the way back to whoever the first person was that did something "wrong". And given that anything the game allows you to do cannot really be considered "wrong", I'm not even sure if we knew the root cause of all the drama that it would even be right to attribute it to that action or whatever.
Point is, Absalom exists and has enforced their idea of fairness upon the game. Their version of fair strikes me as better than a "no rules, anything goes" situation where kd's routinely gang up on other kd's they don't like.
why is bio and rage **** in this thread? go talk in other thread.
and I see that my sanc is beating simians :D the nw gap got closer and sanc is bigger than simians in land :D
This is just wrong and not how top kingdoms think. Scenario:Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaNub
Bio waves rage and gains 10k acres after mintime. Rage's wave returns 4 hours later.
Rage if they wave in 4 hours will gain 8k acres and likely withdraw before Bio gets home to wave again.
Bio then withdraws before Rage can wave and withdraw. Even if Bio is gaining more per wave, and waving faster, implying they would gain more in a longer war, it is correct to withdraw if you know your opponnent is going to wave and withdraw themselves before your next wave returns.
The scenario above happens in almost every top war, and when #1 and #2 fight, hitting and withdrawing before your opponnent can do the same to you is more important than who gets the war win.
Simians has played really well lately. And dorje even said it was essentially an even fight. If anything, I would say Simians is winning since they opened up into fort and are still at a position of even or slightly up, and apparently did so without their usual tools. It must have been chaos for them trying to track ops and get the proper spells on sanc's provs and organize hits and stuff. Yeah... I'm pretty sure I wouldn't say sanc is beating anyone just yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebear
That makes sense flogger. But it also means that the fight was close enough that it was down to which side was going to withdraw in order to be up acres. In which case it seems a bit silly to say one side "outplayed" the other or that one side "farmed out" to the other, as other threads suggested. It was a close war and BiO played their setup well and took some acres. Kudos to them for being smart and playing their hand right.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
But "outplayed" and "farmed out" don't belong in that discussion. If we were talking about the Fury vs. OS war, on the other hand ...
You're always top 10 in my eyes, regardless of what the survey of the world says.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntico
Yes! And since I've teached you during our war, you should now know how to do this.Quote:
Originally Posted by IVC
It doesn't have anything to do with which side ends "up" in acres. I withdrew from Sanc once up 50,000 acres. They would have hit back for 20,000 and withdrew an hour after we withdrew, so it didn't change who was up acres overall, just by how much.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaNub
We ended up crowning that age, but not by more than 20,000 acres.
Its more simply why would you want to let someone wave and withdraw when you can just withdraw before they wave, if gaining acres is your goal.
Bio withdrew because they were significantly losing the war, and withdrawing gives a HUGE advantage in acres. In an even war, whoever withdraws is guaranteed to gain significantly, so kingdoms that don't care about winning have a massive advantage (side note, this makes the war win charts completely irrelevant) From the KD page it didn't look to me like bio would have started losing acres immediately had they continued, nor was the war fully unwinnable, but they were smart to get out at a good moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaNub