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One you made me for Fluffy ? I did, but i prefered one I used regulary so he was up most of the time.
Jon is curently chasing tail at the beaches of Spain, and cant be arsed to even read forums at other times, let alone post. I honestly doubt thats him.
She's disagreeing with him about Tadpole. Not about you. Don't twist it around there spinmaster K. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Thank you Captain Obvious what would the world do without you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verminator
Citizen Clueless would be without a hero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Good snide jab, does that mean you concede that your latest post has no merit because you used ammunition that didn't belong to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Or to say it another way... "In the face of facts, you act like a child" ;)
Woah woah woah. Hold the phone....
Cita is a she? This changes everything
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No! FS banner!Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
Also, how is conflict?
Does this means your post lacks any merit cause you are using ammunition that didnt belong to you? I am sorry that you fail to follow the discussion, I guess I had too high hopes people would be able to do that. Newbeebasher had not bashed me but Tadpole and and if you read Citadels post as well you would put toghter it was about Tadpole and not me. Either way, nothing i wrote in my post was a factual error.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verminator
I am a he =) He got it wrong
Dunno about that one Tadpole, not sure which one is it.
Conflict is kinda meh ... we started with no ub's to 7-8 of theirs and 200k troops deficit. Theres very little we can do in such situation with our setup.
We dont want war and they refuse to cf ... well, they dont refuse but they made sure that terms offered were unacceptable ... nothing left to do but wait it out.
Its pretty much "we are stronger than you and will farm you till we are bored" situation, and theres nothing we can do about it.
Last age we had to eat this very same **** sandwich from you and you seem surprised when ED gets a little revenge? I don't understand how you could think any other outcome would happen after we ate two weeks of hits being in your position last age?Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
Sure Parth is being unreasonable with his CF offer but in all fairness he doesn't want to CF after what happened last age and I can understand that. You reap what you sow.
Position was hardly the same. Main difference beeing you had way out for a free wave at any given time from day 1. Parth kept refusing to take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DM_Benjamin
We were reasonable from start, both than and now.
That beeing said, no I am not surprised. We knew this would happen moment you guys refused to prolong our CF during awar.
Only reason you eat said "**** sandwich" last age was Parth's big mouth and misplaced sense of self-importance.
As it happens this is the reason we are eating it now.
So be it, have your fun and ointment for Parth's bruised ego. Tables will turn sooner or later and we will be the ones in position of strength.
It ends with an a..01. My Spanish class in 8th grade has finially hit pay-dirt? Like Cheerios is a man cereal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
But see, not a girl. ~ it's that Verm thing. Spreads like a disease; linked or linkless...
Im amazed how you keep telling yourself, everyone else is at fault all the time and you are perfect yourself. If **** keeps happening repeatedly, there is something wrong with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
I guess this shows the calibre of the "warring kds" unable to war or even use the much loved strategy of FS weeklong hostiles unless they are in a better position.
That is pretty amusing coming from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
On a more personal note, I dont understand why you insist trying to converse with me. I am aware this is public board and you have every right to talk to and about every topic you like.
But given the fact i allready told you how I feel about you on more than one occasion wouldnt it be best to just ignore me ? We would both be better off, and I am sure others wouldnt mind it either.
Well take this thread for example you make a rather childish retort and then next post you complain people are insulting you (There were no insults).
That ED vs FS thread last time you make a snide remark to fuel the fire and then you complain about others "trolling"
Each time refuse to take any responsibility yourself.
You are free to ignore my posts if you don't like em. Sinc e this us a public forum I will voice my own concerns.
I'd love to smoke a J with this stratO castle guy and just chat about something and get his point of view. The stuff he posts its totally on another level
Maxi's unending hope of my vagitude has manifested in a biological strain of gender confusion... someone should really get on the science of this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle
Theres been some talks about how FS is a little bit coward with their war policy, dont wanna push unless its a sure win. Theyve said so themselves even. Last age, they also claimed that with the setup they had then, even land and even NW didnt make for even ground, they needed to be a bit bigger for things to be even. This age we hear that you canr come from behind with your setup. A friendly sugegstion would be to smarten up and not pick setups that sucks, and maybe you could engage in some non-farm wars. It would greatly improve your public image.
Other then that, I dunno how to comment on this fixation on my person with made up stories about how I have some principle against giving free waves for example. They are not true, and Im also not a despot in my kingdom. Cant say I enjoy handing out free waves, but it has happened for sure. If the kd decides its what has to happen.
Also, the only offer I remember recieving from FS from last age is "750 hp for each day theyve spent on us", which added up to more then I asked for this age a few days ago - even tho I made the offer before bullying FS for a week. So I guess Im a little nicer, but it still adds up to the same as FS didnt wanna pay up. Makes me glad.
ED of later years have not been big fans of long hostiles, we get bored quickly. If the various individuals in the kd wouldnt really want this, theres no way I or anyone else could motivate them to stay active. So, FS, if you think this is all about what parth says or thinks or does, then you will be in hostile vs a very inactive kd before long.
lol @ parth the sass-master.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parth
Also, I can verify the lack of despotic tendencies in Parth. In fact, buzz around the kd is that the plebs think he is a n00b!
as for our activity oow, we suck - this is true =p
This kind of bs is why I say you are to blame for bad blood between us.
Cause of forum wipes I cant quote your pm's from last age where you rage on francis and go on to manic rants about balls and refuse any terms for us to give you CF. Not that it would matter much, lot of your bs from last age drama thread I disproved beyond any doubt with data from Munk and sn's ... it didnt help.
You are still here riding same propaganda bs with same ol' FS haters patting you on the back ... have your fun
you have been offered a free wave, and we were open for negotiations - instead you pretty much broke the talks by insisting on non-negotiable ridicilous amount of waves.. we have other plans in mind and we wont be involved in any relations neither with you nor your ego from now on.. you are welcome to make your free wave and accept the cf we have sent ingame, we have no business left with you..Quote:
Originally Posted by Parth
ED could have had a proper war with us, instead their leadership decided that holding grudges is far more important then having a proper war. For the second time.
Wrong. We were ready for a "proper war" last age. But you didnt want to give button or push button when things were even. Instead you explored and created some UB's and bullied us for two weeks. Maybe you wanted us to repeat that, come in on even ground and watch you decline war and then bully us at first chance? Is that what you mean by "could have had a proper war"? And again, its not really our leadership in specific that holds any grudge. Is as much the average core player as it is me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
Did you read my post you quoted? Like I said, last age, after bullying us for a week, francis offered CF for 750 hp / day spent, adding up to MORE then what I offered you. I offered you a better deal then you offered me, and it would also save you a week of bashing. But Im happy you didnt accept it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN
And you do in fact have business left with us. Like francis told me last age;
[11:56] <Francis> i consider what we have as a war already, it wouldnt be advisable to have 2 wars at once
I take it you are prepared for the long haul here, cause its just the way it seems it has to be between us.
I am not going to comment on last age, it's clear you have your own version of what happened, and you really believe in it, all fine to me. Your version of what happened is the reason you hold a grudge v.s. us, clearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parth
We however, don't hold grudges. We offered you a free wave and CF, plain and simple, and we are ready to move on! Which is, I believe, pretty common practice in Utopia.
Yeah, lets just forgive and forget all that happened last age, and be amazed we're not using "common practice" this age. BTW, in my own version in my own little crazy world I have this "[11:08] <Francis> 750 honor point per day we spent on you, and you can get your cf" quote from last age. Strangly enough I cant find any logs of any more "common practice"-like type deal suggested by your side. Weird ****, but I think I figured it out. The common practice offer is in the real world while I live in a dreamworld, and hence I cant find it cause its like parallel universes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorash
Problem FS have is that ED is casual enough to not really give a damn about winning anything ingame as most players have already crowned when they game was actually "good", but players are commited enough to actually turn up when needed.
The fact there's a lot of older players also means there's a fair bit of ego in ED, not in a bad way like some players I can think of, but Parth clearly knows how to run KDs and his mouth to get maximum enjoyment out of people who wrong us. Then there's tools like me who think this is a war game so will war and grudge out anyone who even looks at us funny if I had my own way.
Realistically Francis was told how ED works, I linked him our 80+ page drama thread covering multiple wars/PKs/grudges spanning ages, Parth and others told him here's the offer take it or leave it & they left it for 2 weeks hitting ED. FS failed to do due diligence checks on ED and the likelyhood of what they were told being true, so we have this position now.
I might be a stubbon arse, but even I would have been able to look at last age and see both KDs view points to come to the conclusion that if I was FS then yes the time wasted prepping for ED would have sucked, but it also was our own making after being told we'd not get war if explored and dragged hostile. Wouldn't have started trying to raze kill people for 2 week conflict knowing we'd get shafted in the future.
You might have been able to see both kd's points but you failed to acomodate them.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverfox
We were not just going to say ok cya after spending week to explore 10k acres and preping for you guys only to have you say you changed your minds after 30hs of hostile. I dont give a f*** who you are, you just dont get away with that.
Despite bs Parth is spewing here you had option to walk away but you completley refused to even entertain the idea of negotiating for anything other than blank CF.
Well shockingly we can be just as stuborn and hit just as low as you did. This time arround you were the ones to rise ante, next time it will be us.
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Originally Posted by citadela01
translation: "we're just not that good right now, really"
Last age, you werent serious about warring. You wanted to be in a position where you were sure to win, before warring. If you spent this time to prep for us, and we gave you button which is a pretty good advantage, and you didnt push it - then its you wasting our time. We were willing to war with how the table was set when hostile started, but you wanted to change your position before warring. First explore some UBs, and then war. We told you we were not interested, and you bullied us for two weeks and also demanding compensation for it. First you wasted our time, and then you bullied us.
This situation is in many ways similar to last age...you were in eowcf after a farm war where you were basically unhit. We were about the same acreage. If you wanted to war us, you could have prepped for it, but just like last age you are too scared unless you have a massive advantage.
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Originally Posted by citadela01
Not really;Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
ED thought that a war would be even vs. both KDs and offered FS a war.
FS had the choice of saying no but instead decided to grow provs till they thought they'd not lose and dragging hostile to achieve that (nothing wrong there).
ED said they weren't willing to war on those terms (nothing wrong there, much like FS didn't want to war on what ED thought was even terms).
FS decided to send threats about hitting ED in war if they went with a different KD.
No-one forced FS to "prepare" for ED in the way they chose, FS could have said they didn't want to war, or wanted to war after X days, or have brought in their own terms.
What you still seem to fail to realise is that for a KD to want to offer you something, then you need to have a reason for them to do it. Let me ask you something, if ED had of said ok here's 5k honour for an EoA CF, then what would ED have done for the rest of the age? CF also wasnt a blank CF, it would have avoided stuff like this in the future.
I find that last line very, very unlikely, you'd need a fanboi thread for me to even begin to take that seriously. Threats also seem pretty unscary right about now as they convey the thoughts that you still don't really grasp what ED is about.
I have allways find people who blantantly lie like you do baffling, I just cant comprehend that mental process behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Parth
We were dead even last age, button we were suposed to press was given for 45mins while we had number of armies out and 5 ppl online with you having all armies except one ambush army and most of your KD online. You decided not to war after 30hs of hostile and we didnt explore any elves until days later ... you know this very well cause it's been nitpicked through very carefully by your big bro Zauper.
Everything you accuse us of doing is simply something you assumed we will do, and has very little with what we actually did.
Yet you see it as "very similar" to this age when you waved us with 7? ub's to our zero and 200k troops advantage.
And we are the ones who require massive advantage ?
I liked you more when you were sending raging msg's telling us to f*** ourself, at least I can respect that kind of stubborn and defiant a**, this sleezy act is just ewww
Honor request was never anything we would insisted on, it was pretty much reaction to your refusal to negotiate.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverfox
Now if we are answering questions, let me ask you one.
Why do you insist on spining story about our exploring tm's as reason you refused to war? It is not truth and you know it. We explored elves few days later with foresight to prepare for conflicts that would come after you. You were allrdy ****ed up at that point.
Only thing that did change during those 30 hours between both KD's leaving fort and you refusing to war for the first time is your 2 big wh's loosing tons of troops and land.
So why the lies than ?
We did have some troop advantage, yes. It was surprising you didnt train up some in EOWCF. Maybe you wanted to try to play victim, that you would get off easy or something, I dont know. My point still remains: If you would have wanted to war, you could have pumped up and done it. You had some time, farm war and eowcf. You were even offered 2.5 days extra prep time, with the condition you gave button.Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
Im not the liar here tho. We gave the button early on the 23'rd, you had about one hour and 45 min to push it. So when you say you had it for 45 min, you are actually lying. Funny how that works.
After the fort staredown we were same acres. Two days hostile later, where we gave button, you were 4k acres bigger. When you didnt push it and kept exploring, we explained that we had no intentions warring you if you explored. On day 4, you were 10k+ acres bigger then us and waved.
the above two posts are about an old conflict.
let's stay on current conflict please! the just desserts one!
Last age, FS tried to razekill ED:s provinces as punishment for not pressing the button. ED were around 60-70% their size at the time.
The attempt failed when ED explored the razetarget.
I'm a bit curious what FS would have done if they succeeded with the first provkill? Would it have been enough or would you have razekilled more provs?
Sure. Nothing special going on. Meters are pretty high now so FS have a rather strict daily hit cap. ED still hitting for land. FS doing some OOH plunders.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helluva
Im not sure if you are following, but we are not in this hostile anymore, as we wont waste more of our time for you ego fight.. You have gained 5k honor already, and we have stopped all hits and ops on you - the show is over, and i congratulate you for picking a fight in the right time and gaining well on it..Quote:
Originally Posted by Parth
I hate to burst your bubble Lord Sampuan but this hostile isn't over until a CF agreement is in place. Until a time you and Parth can agree on something, we will keep going. Last age we ate a couple of weeks worth of your hits and couldn't just simply say "The hostile is over"
It doesn't work that way and I have ops in my news as close as 4 hours ago from FS
Sorry to burst your bubble, but it works that way when you make unreasonable demands to deliberately evade a possible cf agreement..Quote:
Originally Posted by DM_Benjamin