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You can call them lies if you choose to believe 1 side over the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
I actually do not think there has been a point in utopia where on the top server a kingdom went start to finish #1 (I have no knowledge of the lesser server and genesis). The bulk of top kingdoms, even back then, went a little safe at the start. Remember there was no discovered islands back then and it was instant war. You think all the top kingdoms explored 100% of their pool OOP? The phrase "getting caught with your pants down" was prevalent in that era. Also there were tons of top kingdoms back then. The odds of someone going coast to coast is so ridiculously low that I'm not sure why you even believe him.
All the more impressive we did it twice then. We had 1 hour build time age 10 and no raze costs (it was so broken you can thank me for having to pay to raze buildings today) and not a single other kingdom picked the correct race. Maybe we weren't #1 the first tick, we were the 2nd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
Yet SL somehow managed to be no1 the first half of the age every age 5 ages straight until deletions hit. Sorry, if I find flogger more credible than you. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
https://web.archive.org/web/20010507...e8k-2/land.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by flogger
So you just lied. You're referring to the chemical compounds Shadowlight round. A round we were dominating so badly that after losing about 15 provinces to deletions, we were still ranked #32. Before the deletions, we were ranked so ridiculously high at #1, that we were informally crowned halfway into the round. Without deletions, we were on pace for 200k. I remember that round so clearly because that one was my baby. Aside from that, RA didn't even finish #1. It shows #5 on my link. Unless you played in Prismatic Warriors?
More or less. I don't remember if it was every round (there might have been 1 round where we were #2 or #3 before deletion, but 10 was for sure. That was my baby. At that point I was very involved in leadership.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
I somehow took the wrong link. Chemical compounds was age 8... that was the round we absolutely dominated.
I'm assuming you were in Legion of Blades? I don't think we were contesting round 10 so it's theoretically possible.
https://web.archive.org/web/20020603...10k-2/land.htm
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Originally Posted by Godly
http://z14.invisionfree.com/Utopian_...sity/ar/t4.htm
The Sixth Age of Utopia (Relentless Armies)
In this age there was only one kingdom, Relentless Armies. They were set up by Flogger, he used his old kingdom as a base on which to form his superkingdom. They from the beginning stretched out a huge lead in both networth and fame.
Flogger note: Another new tactic, first fake wars! If I recall our kd had the best warring setup this age so no one could beat us come war time.
The Eigth Age (The Second Cataclysm)
A second cataclysm hit the world of utopia this time it didn't scatter the land but ripped the world in two. With the end of the seventh age utopia was split and so on we went, friends were distanced but not forgotten.
With the beginning of the round came news that one of utopias oldest sons Flogger had returned and was going on to once again lead relentless armies. The rounds early leaders were this time Shadowlight one of the oldest top 50 kingdoms out there.
The kingdom race most people were concerned with was on the Battlefields server with the kingdom of Serenity and Friends getting out into first place. Shadowlight had pulled out a massive lead until hacks and gangbangings hit them hard. Serenity was now top followed by the old masters of Relentless Armies. Serenity was based on total kingdom unity and a no war policy, they in the past had been all halfling and all faerys kingdoms. Relentless armies declared war on Serenity, one of Senerity's members went down form 2.5 million to almost nothing and so deleted himself. While the war went on the third place kingdom Prismatic Warriors had drawn closer to RA and Serenity. Now either of three could have been number one, as they were so close. Serenity and Prismatic Warriors were both growing faster then RA when they were without war. RA missed out on declaring on Prismatic Warriors as they bought in war blockers before RA had a chance to declare (as they had told Serenity they would).
So to summarize, in the beginning stages we played 5 ages
4- landcrown
5 - #1/#2 provs #2 kd - First prov to break 20k acres, Then PK ASF with a few days left in age.
6 - Wire to wire
8 - Above
10 - Rotating halfer, wire to mehuling.
Dragonportal has the old BF rankings up to age x or something, easier to search there I would assume. ¨
http://thedragonportal.eu/History.html
Oh right I forgot it was hacks and not deletions. That round was a tragedy. We had such an amazing setup and start that it was pretty much over from the get go.
Round 5 was the round that we picked avian that didn't need boats and due to abusable overpopulation mechanics were able to build a 1 million soldier soldier army that we would rotate to different provinces. Back then you needed I believe 1 boat per 50 troops sent to attack. With no boats and 1 mil solds, no prov was unbreakable. Picture now you get into a war against an UB bank and instead of bending over, you just aid up a prov to break it, over and over again. Obviously in this era you'd be so overpopped you couldn't attack.
Easy to get off to a big start if y'all x-logging.
We didn't xlog... we were just trading without proxies. Basically we would just trade a european account for another european and hope Mehul bought that the guy moved to another country nearby. Was dumb, but we didn't really understand how proxies worked at the time.
Even in age 8 Flogger was old AF.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
So uh is there a war happening?
no we are reminiscing the chaotic ages of 5-10
Age 5 was pretty fun with Flogger backstabbing and PKing ASF and then the flogging of Flip and Flogger that followed. Utopia was so brutal back then.
The storm is coming.
http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/79/792dc...a8866103c8.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Lewpac
I can't help but laugh whenever anyone says that their kingdom did not x-log back then...
Perhaps the individual did not do it. But someone in that KD did. I don't care if you want to characterize it as logging someones province to hit, just doing housekeeping, sitting, or whatever. Someone was x-logging. Cut the BS and move on.
Meh, in super early ages x-logging wasn't that common. We never did it, but people didn't require 25 people to be on at certain dates and stuff.
What was your targetfinder script?Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
mid age 6 or so someone showed it to me. Wasn't proprietary, basically similar to all the target finders today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
so, looks like the t/ms is getting bashed pretty good in both kds?
Do you still feel like they're cheating? I'm just curious since that link you posted says that you quit because they were cheating or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
..I am the liquor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Band of Horses
Interesting that Panda didnt wait for BB's orcs to come home before 2nd wave That would have been devastating.
Interesting to see that BB took forever to send the bounced orcs out. Also BB sent a ruby as their hostile dragon? Wtf is that.. literally any other dragon would have been better. Not a fan of the gold choice either but it's not terrible. I would have liked to see Panda throw out an emerald with their strategy choice or a perhaps sapphire for peasant/resource control.
Curious to see how much elites were killed on initial bouncewave.
Keep us posted pls!
Edit: Nevermind gold looks good :D
We didn't quit, we won that age. We were 50% larger than the #2 kd by the time we found the thing, the link and quote was misleading, it wasn't why we won.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
Needed ruby's to break faeries donkface. Then once broken the orcs are killing 12% a hit. I know this is above your paygrade to look at since you never look at anything but your own province, but try and be informed before posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
Our orcs can pretty comfortably break where they can still break even if hit all home, so waiting had no benefit. They had a good timing to get a full wave in and beat our bigs home, and when you run the faster race, waiting around has little benefit. Gotta keep going to get a wave or two up by the end of hostilities. It's like 300k off vs 240k def.
Don't need to be triggered! You're about to farm for 16k, after all.
I obviously don't have your SoTs so I guess if you needed the extra 4% DME reduction that ruby gives over gold to break the T/Ms that kinda makes sense. However, if you can still break comfortably after the bounces, would a gold dragon reducing the forts be enough? On 15% forts (minimum I'd run on TMs), you're looking at about a 6% decrease in DME. If it's 300k vs 240k, gold should have done the trick unless they're retarded and not running forts which I can't believe. Plus you then have a dragon that isn't useless against the other 20 provs.
As far as your statement regarding the TMs on the orcs being useful, I completely disagree. Would have been much better to wait for the orcs to be home since all you care about is killing elites. Even if it doesn't fix the problem right away, it's a start.
Will you be hitting into this war as well Godly?
oh right.. you only hit into ghetto wars. My bad.
How many hits have you done into wars this age?
Asians are all war hero , so yes the dragon is useless against them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
Ruby also helps that little bit more against the dwarf banks and the faerys. i can't remember if they used forts on their dwarfs vs us but I know they used 0 on their avians.
Halp! Pandas are running Asian War heros!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty87
What is the meter at right now?
Stupid bloody auto correct.
Then what's with all the intel spam we've gotten from CR last 3 days? Pretty sure you have all our SoTs in your bot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
Just quoting for hilarity. Any dragon is useless against war hero'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Godly
If you read godly' post three up you'll see he wrote "then you'll have a dragon which isn't useless vs 20 other provs" I was simply stating their war heroes if it hadn't been mentioned beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by protector
84/44 (them/us)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai
Huh? I quoted Godly, not you :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Smitty87
And as far as I see it, I agreed with your post, I just repeated what you said (more or less)
OMG!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai
/me rage quits
Thought Balloon #1: "uh oh. One side has the advantage of Asian activity" but then when I found out you meant avians and figured it a Freudian slip -Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty87
Thought Balloon #2: "Asian avian war heroes: the most active dragon immune fast core in the game". Even I took pause at that.
Thought Balloon #3: "I am the walrus."
lmao, now that's funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle
You are out of your element Donny.Quote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle
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Originally Posted by Loons
Dont worry loons, thinking about it, the difference between the avian and asian war hero isnt that big?
Just rename the elites to Samurais, the off specs and def specs to Mathematicians and Ricefarmers,
change the +1 general to -50% food consumption and the cant use stable penalty to cant take any actions when under the influence? :P