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Originally Posted by Paradise
Your monarch said we were brought to your attention because of that other kd messaging you. And we were tagged AGREED WAR many hours before you waved, thus you waved into hostile/war'ish. (if war'ish is a term used these days)
No biggie, we know where that other kd are.
Well, we don't cry in forums if triple hostiled, like everybody else does.
We fight our way and if our 14 barons (the 14th baron is 10 honor away) is not a good archievement, despite the loss...than yes, you can say whatever you wish.
You've started the war with 55.5k honor and ended it with 56k honor. On top of that you have 5 crippled provinces that will take 10-12 days to be in shape and your acreage distribution is crap.
We started the war with 51.5k honor and ended 54.6k with a perfect acreage distribution (elves the biggest, followed by halfers). Humans need to grow a bit and we are ready again.
You don't have any core, your faeries are 800-1k acres and your attackers at 2k acres :).
what you gonna do? landrop? grow the faeries without wpa/science?
Admit it: your next war will be a war loss (unless vs a ghetto) with your faeries being smallest in your kd.
****
We would gladly pump ourselves, with wizards this time and wave you again! maybe a rematch?
what do you think? shall we settle a rematch? are you up to it?
Yes we were mailed by the specific kd u know about. They told us (KD LOC) was waving them and forcing them to war despite rejecting them. We checked (kd loc) and realized its FREE tagging WAR AGREED. Feeling confused, we mailed back and asked if they had agreed war with FREE. They insisted no. We SN and saw that hits were still being exchanged by both KDs. We came to conclusion that FREE was fake tagging to farm a 22 prov kd hoping they would declare. We suited up and waved. And that was when we were told that they were having a war agreed with another kd.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoffi
We werent filled with GC and runes. I dont know how you got your intel. We did have 700k runes on 1 of our attackers which we LS'ed off so your KD had no chance to rob them. Our faeries were having such bad TB that they were sending it out to clear TB. We werent fully ready as you thought we were. As for GC's we had little. We toged to donate. I agree that we had advantage on GCs that we had. But someone in your KD claimed that we were starving in GC's and we were offering FREE a farm war. I could show logs if neededQuote:
Originally Posted by stoffi
Also..there wasnt any triple hostile. After we waved, we SN again and saw that there was alrdy a CF in placed with the KD that mailed us. The KD FREE had agreed war with had not begin hostilties yet.
We had agreed war with mod/bounce kingdom for 12h already. they can confirm it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaGiciaNz
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Originally Posted by MaGiciaNz
You had many times the gc and runes we had. You could afford 2 dragons according to umunk, you sent one, we couldn't manage to send a single dragon. In addition, you had ToG. As for runes, you had like 3-6 times as many runes as we had(I forgot how much, I just remember I saw it and thought "bleh"), and there was no one attacker who had those runes when we checked, but I'm sure you shifted around.
Anyways, grats on a good war, you fought well, and good luck in your next war.
Just the fact that anyone knows how many runes they have is beyond my pay grade, lol.
My assessment of rune and gc count is; I know how much I have and I stink. I figure the t/ms have more.
@ everyone in this thread: I'm glad this has picked up. It'd be nice if you guys would tag up here in forum so an outsider can follow the discussion. I know where stoffi plays but that's about it.
For posterity, I'm in Pyro, but I never attack unless ordered. It's a chivalry thing.
.list gcQuote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle
.donate
Yo patapuf yoooo !!!!! YOOOO !!!! Dude ... Hombre ... We get it! You use drugs. But for your sake, try to cut`em off.
Free 15k - us 20k acres? How about you being considerably higher kd nw? Logics much? Are you friggin` for real??? Dude!!!! You plundered? Dude!!!! ALL your hits were trad marches. You waited us to train in fort??? What??? The Cf was in place after your wave - 1 week time. We used 2 days of fort. Do you even friggin` brain??? How about the ignoring of our war proposal? Silence on that part eh?
You are a friggin` offense to intelligence. A friggin` disgrace to anything involving evolution. If you can`t friggin` brain, stfu at least. Have some decency. All your post about the situation with WarCry was a lie after another. Not even elaborated, well thought lies. Retarded lies driven by the impulse to prove that you`re some great player playing in some great Kd. You must be one of Vlahul`s friends, I take it. The stupidity can be that strong only in his vicinity. Sadly, you`re worse than him. The greatest utopian players of all times, how did the second war go for you? Good luck finding a third!
Ps. To the moderators, if my post seems a bit ... aggressive, I`ll accept whatever measures you decide. Posted this fully aware of whatever consequences to come. Cheerios!
Yeah, you're not mad bro.
Don't insult users.
Umad?... dude?
Quick Crying Free... Is this all ur gonna do when u lose? hate to see u win... IF u ever do
Why don't you guys war FREE - hate to see u beat FREE... IF u ever doQuote:
Originally Posted by Diabeticmoose
My Old KD mates trolling me... Great :(
I'm undefeated against FREE personally.
Maybe you should throw your name into the hat for greatest player of all time pageant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
Incoming wall of text. I'm the Steward of the 22-prov KD that MaGiciaNz mentioned above, and I confirm that this is true. I'm compiling the news and messages, but the short story is this: FREE jumped on us a tick or two after we came out of EowCF; at this time they were 20% NW larger than us and fully pumped. We just came off a WW and used the CF period to wizzie pump. then had plans to let our chained guys recover before we went looking for another war. We sent them a message asking them to move on, but it was ignored and they continued to hit into us. So we began to match them hit for hit and blast them with ops because **** that - we don't take **** like that lying down and we're not going to let a KD think they can farm us for free. Then they began to ask for war, saying they would put 3 provs into vac mode to make things "even". The NW gap between us hadn't improved and we continued to make it clear that they weren't getting a war out of us. When it became clear that they wouldn't move on, that's when we reached out for assistance with what we perceived to be a larger KD attempting to bully us into war.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaGiciaNz
First few hits from FREE:
June 24 of YR2 RuPhiN (FREE) attacked and pillaged the lands of Tactics Ogre (PIXEL).
June 24 of YR2 Draak (FREE) attacked and pillaged the lands of Tactics Ogre (PIXEL).
June 24 of YR2 Hop (FREE) attacked and pillaged the lands of Larry Laffer (PIXEL).
July 1 of YR2 RayofHope (FREE) attacked and pillaged the lands of MakeLuvNotWar (PIXEL).
My king sent this message to both their king and steward:
http://i.imgur.com/1MMcxMV.png
FREE responds with more hits:
July 4 of YR2 Syrion (FREE) invaded Tactics Ogre (PIXEL) and captured 138 acres of land.
July 4 of YR2 Chervie (FREE) invaded Fezzik (PIXEL) and captured 102 acres of land.
July 4 of YR2 RiPpY (FREE) invaded Megaman X (PIXEL) and captured 131 acres of land.
July 4 of YR2 Zhuelle (FREE) invaded The X-Men (PIXEL) and captured 148 acres of land.
July 4 of YR2 Cheese (FREE) invaded Turok (PIXEL) and captured 128 acres of land.
July 4 of YR2 Woe (FREE invaded Kefka (PIXEL) and captured 129 acres of land.
July 5 of YR2 Acidic (FREE) invaded Tactics Ogre (PIXEL) and captured 77 acres of land.
July 5 of YR2 Cello (FREE) invaded Koopa troopa (PIXEL) and captured 135 acres of land.
July 5 of YR2 Cello (FREE) invaded Koopa troopa (PIXEL) and captured 81 acres of land.
July 5 of YR2 Cello (FREE) invaded Koopa troopa (PIXEL) and captured 51 acres of land.
July 6 of YR2 k4r (FREE) invaded Fezzik (PIXEL) and captured 88 acres of land.
July 6 of YR2 Molly (FREE) invaded Koopa troopa (PIXEL) and captured 41 acres of land.
Their aggression continued, so we opened up with ops/spells, while a few of our beaten down guys hit to reclaim land.
July 7 of YR2 Yuna (PIXEL) attempted an invasion of Cheese (FREE), but was repelled.
July 7 of YR2 Yuna (PIXEL) captured 110 acres of land from Cheese (FREE).
July 7 of YR2 An unknown province from FREE pick on some1 ur own size (PIXEL) captured 197 acres of land from Cello (FREE).
July 8 of YR2 Poho (PIXEL) captured 97 acres of land from Dreamy (FREE).
July 8 of YR2 Poho (PIXEL) captured 78 acres of land from Hop (FREE).
July 9 of YR2 Dreamy (FREE) invaded Poho (PIXEL) and captured 70 acres of land.
July 9 of YR2 Dreamy (FREE) invaded Poho (PIXEL) and captured 46 acres of land.
July 10 of YR2 DeGoodz (FREE) invaded Tactics Ogre (PIXEL) and captured 55 acres of land.
July 11 of YR2 ZenithSun (FREE) invaded Tactics Ogre (PIXEL) and captured 63 acres of land.
July 11 of YR2 ZenithSun (FREE) attempted to invade Ekko (PIXEL).
July 13 of YR2 An unknown province from FREE pick on some1 ur own size (PIXEL) captured 102 acres of land from Cello (FREE).
July 13 of YR2 Hop (FREE) invaded Montaron (PIXEL) and captured 90 acres of land.
July 13 of YR2 An unknown province from FREE pick on some1 ur own size (PIXEL) captured 92 acres of land from RayofHope (FREE).
July 14 of YR2 An unknown province from FREE HOSTILING LIKE A BAOSS (FREE) attempted to invade Yuna (PIXEL).
July 14 of YR2 Charm3d (FREE) invaded Yuna (PIXEL) and captured 116 acres of land.
July 14 of YR2 Charm3d (FREE) invaded Yuna (PIXEL) and captured 73 acres of land.
And that's when we got these messages. Please note that neither of them are from their monarch or steward.
- This one to one of our provs:
Game Date July 13 of YR2
Real Date Tue, 26 Jan at 06:49 GMT+00:00
Sender Noble Lady PROV LEADER the Sorceress of Molly (FREE)
Recipient The Conniving Lord PROV LEADER of Koopa troopa (PIXEL)
Subject i don't even know why we would stop
it's just why do anything else? Why would we want to fight anyone else when you just bend over for us :)
- This one to me:
Game Date July 14 of YR2
Real Date Tue, 26 Jan at 07:13 GMT+00:00
Sender Baron PROV LEADER the Hero of Syrion (FREE)
Recipient The Wise Baron STEWARD of Megaman X (PIXEL)
Subject war
we put 3 provinces in vacantion mode.
deal? you don't push button until you see them in vacantion mode.
- And my response:
Game Date July 20 of YR2
Real Date Tue, 26 Jan at 13:11 GMT+00:00
Sender The Wise Baron STEWARD of Megaman X (PIXEL)
Recipient Baron PROV LEADER the Hero of Syrion (FREE)
Subject Re:war
Yea, gonna go ahead and say **** off to that. There's 2 big problems with that: 1) We don't trust you guys, especially not to keep 3 prove in vac during war (also why CF wasn't sent) 2) you're 600k larger 3) you guys are overall assholes, and we don't war people like you. So as my monarch has said, kindly move on. You're not getting a war from us.
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Before I'd responded my king had already messaged Outlawz for assistance and we laid the record straight (FREE had tagged themselves WAR AGREED, even though we never agreed to a war):
http://i.imgur.com/ge9Wl6g.png
This is when, I presume, Outlawz began to pursue FREE because then we received a CF from them. We were wary of accepting it right away for reasons I'll explain in a moment, but when someone in our KD TT'd into them and put use to Hostile - Hostile I accepted right away just in case button was given (I was too busy to count hits).
July 17 of YR2 FREE war agreed (FREE) has proposed a formal ceasefire with our kingdom.
July 20 of YR2 An unknown province from FREE pick on some1 ur own size (PIXEL) captured 80 acres of land from RayofHope (FREE).
July 20 of YR2 Yuna (PIXEL) captured 144 acres of land from k4r (FREE).
July 20 of YR2 Yuna (PIXEL) captured 80 acres of land from k4r (FREE).
July 20 of YR2 Yuna (PIXEL) captured 47 acres of land from k4r (FREE).
July 20 of YR2 We have entered into a formal ceasefire with FREE war agreed (FREE).
Then I get this message from the same d-bag from earlier:
Game Date July 21 of YR2
Real Date Tue, 26 Jan at 14:19 GMT+00:00
Sender Baron THE SAME D-BAG FROM EARLIER the Hero of Syrion (FREE)
Recipient The Wise Baron STEWARD of Megaman X (PIXEL)
Subject Re:war
BTW, we did not sent CF because we knew you gonna attack and accept it after...
we will break the CF and get 3-4k acres from you...because you are completely noobs and don't know how to lose.
when a weaker kd like you, lose some acres to 6-7 attacks, you offer CF and move on.
expect a massive GB on you, be sure of that.
PS: once activated VM it is 4 days minimum, cannot be cancelled...
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So, there you have it, that's all of what happened in a nutshell (a rather large one, I suppose). Oh, and for those wondering why we didn't just send a CF initially, here's why: we've been burned in the past by kingdoms who accept CF to reset meter and then break it to continue waving for free. Our new MO has been to ask them politely to move on and, once they've agreed and are engaged elsewhere, send the CF.
EDIT for Strato's convenience: The kingdom in question here is Pixel :)
EDIT2: Added the aforementioned screencaps, news, and messages.
No surprise there. Love it when FREE makes it in the forum again.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaGiciaNz
Too bad though that vlahul isnt around here in forums anymore :(
FREE's war agreed tag was with me (i'll leave my KD name out since thats irrelevant at this point), and then our war got jacked cuz Outlawz waved them a few ticks before our agreed time and FREE pulled out of a 23v25prov war to fight Outlawz 25v25, claiming Outlawz to be a complete farm target lol
oh well.... decision decision decision
Ah ha!!! So a third party now confirms that FREE called Outlawz (or Blood Brothers) a farm target - this is insanely stupid - proven by the fact FREE lost the war and gained some so-called honour and good acre spread?)Quote:
Originally Posted by astron
So it seems FREE was going to abuse the VM mechanic to farm weaker kingdoms? Reeks like cheating to me to be honest. Isn't this against the spirit of the rules?
This is so great
Just a bit like when Sparta was fake warring. :))Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyReid
At that time, we did not realized that setting VM over 2-3 provinces before the war is considered an abuse. We only tried to match a 22 vs 22 or 23 vs 23 fairly, no cheating/abusing intention.
We've asked Bishop and he confirmed that this VM is considered an abuse, therefore we decided against it and move on. At that time, when we offered to put two provinces in VM, we really thought its making things fair for the opponent.
As for the Pixel kingdom: we did 5-6 plunders, they retaled back for acres and full ops. We had no intention to go more than those plunders. After their acres hits, we retaled back to get the acres they took. Furthermore, the Pixel monarch started to cry - when he ordered a retal war, which was fine for us (and again, we had no intention to get more than those 5 plunders).
Retal war continued for about 6-7 more hits, FREE offered them CF since we had an agreed war with Astron/Bounce and PIXEL did a dirty move by launching several attacks and accepting the CF.
We've started the prepare our war vs the agreed kingdom on our island, when we have received a full wave and dragon from Blood Brothers, losing some 2.5-3k acres.
Since we desperately needed war, we accepted the challenge and that's it.
We will get our acres back from Pixel, we are pretty sure of that. They could have accepted the CF after our 5 plunders - they should have spend their 2-3m gold like everybody does. Instead of retaling for acres more and more and crying after that all over - Lame.
Your kingdom has a habit of beating your chest and making (empty) threats on the forums which might get you into trouble down the road. When will you learn?Quote:
Originally Posted by patapuf
Farming a ghetto 80% of your size is indeed the definition of fair :D
And your kingdom have a history of doing douchey moves and cheating and yet you are here making fun of other people that did the right thing and asked Bishop before if it was okey what they were about to do. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyReid
What make you think you deserve to get away with 5 free plunders?
Sounds like they just evened up the hits and now you are whining about it because you expect to get free hits.
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Originally Posted by patapuf
But thats not how it works, if you arent interested in a war and want a cf you dont make attacks you eat the wave and then move on. You cant go "Hi i dont want a conflict but ill attack you anyway!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by neanderthal
You do realize that I have the logs of our news and and that they're posted in my response? Let me share them here just to be sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by patapuf
June 24 of YR2 RuPhiN (FREE) attacked and pillaged the lands of Tactics Ogre (PIXEL).
June 24 of YR2 Draak (FREE) attacked and pillaged the lands of Tactics Ogre (PIXEL).
June 24 of YR2 Hop (FREE) attacked and pillaged the lands of Larry Laffer (PIXEL).
July 1 of YR2 RayofHope (FREE) attacked and pillaged the lands of MakeLuvNotWar (PIXEL).
- King's message asking you to move on was sent
July 4 of YR2 Syrion (FREE) invaded Tactics Ogre (PIXEL) and captured 138 acres of land.
July 4 of YR2 Chervie (FREE) invaded Fezzik (PIXEL) and captured 102 acres of land.
July 4 of YR2 RiPpY (FREE) invaded Megaman X (PIXEL) and captured 131 acres of land.
July 4 of YR2 Zhuelle (FREE) invaded The X-Men (PIXEL) and captured 148 acres of land.
July 4 of YR2 Cheese (FREE) invaded Turok (PIXEL) and captured 128 acres of land.
July 4 of YR2 Woe (FREE invaded Kefka (PIXEL) and captured 129 acres of land.
July 5 of YR2 Acidic (FREE) invaded Tactics Ogre (PIXEL) and captured 77 acres of land.
July 5 of YR2 Cello (FREE) invaded Koopa troopa (PIXEL) and captured 135 acres of land.
July 5 of YR2 Cello (FREE) invaded Koopa troopa (PIXEL) and captured 81 acres of land.
July 5 of YR2 Cello (FREE) invaded Koopa troopa (PIXEL) and captured 51 acres of land.
July 6 of YR2 k4r (FREE) invaded Fezzik (PIXEL) and captured 88 acres of land.
July 6 of YR2 Molly (FREE) invaded Koopa troopa (PIXEL) and captured 41 acres of land.
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You made 4 plunders into our kingdom. My kingdom asked you to move on since you were 3 provs the greater and were much larger than us. Then YOU started hitting into US for land, and that's when WE decided that you guys were pricks and had no intentions of moving on. That message was a clear indication that we had no intention of warring on such uneven grounds, but that doesn't mean we're going to let you get away with trying to farm us. And you want to call ONE of our guys TT'ing you before I was able to accept CF dirty? Check your phone Mr. Kettle, I think the Pot's calling you.
Please patapuf, we're not idiots, and lying through your teeth won't make you look any better.
Korp, we would've take the wave but the messages that we were getting from them told us they had no intention of moving on and that they wanted to just farm us out, and THAT'S something we won't take lying down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Post messages, from monarch i meant.
I thought there was a line to get into free. Why is there still a open slot? Haha
Dude!!!! Ofc I was mad:) Duh!Quote:
Originally Posted by era
Why`s Free lying so much? That`s my dilemma. What are they hoping to achieve?
You are clearly deeply upset about all of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluorr
This might be the most drama I've ever seen from such a non-issue.
Ah, we're in an age when emotions are on the Internet. The body is now just an organic button pushing shell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
*smug - < that's my internet feelings.
The thing about life is that nothing ever has to happen, yet everything happens. Including emotions on the internet. Be grateful for the emotions, instead of dwelling on their location.Quote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle