CR vs Your GF on Fire

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

I like GF on Fire, because they do as i would have done/have done in the past...

The fact that you feel its disrespectful to wave you tells more about you then them Godly, respect is earned, not demanded. You have now earned it for giving them a good war and showing you can win, but to demand it like a little kid because someone waves you when previous ages you been "top dog" is a very poor point, new age = new start, i doubt many if any in the warring tier cares how many crowns you got as individuals or as kd wide.

When i waved growth kingdoms in the past for sitting in eco build with no defense on big acres, i didnt do it out of disrespect i did it because it was fun for my kingdom, i knew we would lose as there was no way we would overcome the advantages a growth kingdom held even when not pumped/in warbuild, but as a kingdom we didnt care if we lost or won, or where in the charts we would end, it was fun plain and simple and we learned a lot as a kingdom.

I dont think many if any can beat CR if they are equal size and all active, some brilliant strategic minds there and all around huge amount of experience, thats where the respect should be and has been earned, but that doesnt mean people cant wave you.... The fact that you as "Girafs" bullied war tiers and demanded they warred you or you would raze them to the ground, speaks volume of how little respect you got for anyone else that you feel "beneath you"..

Let the trolling start O_o

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You said it well...

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

I like GF on Fire, because they do as i would have done/have done in the past...

The fact that you feel its disrespectful to wave you tells more about you then them Godly, respect is earned, not demanded. You have now earned it for giving them a good war and showing you can win, but to demand it like a little kid because someone waves you when previous ages you been "top dog" is a very poor point, new age = new start, i doubt many if any in the warring tier cares how many crowns you got as individuals or as kd wide.

When i waved growth kingdoms in the past for sitting in eco build with no defense on big acres, i didnt do it out of disrespect i did it because it was fun for my kingdom, i knew we would lose as there was no way we would overcome the advantages a growth kingdom held even when not pumped/in warbuild, but as a kingdom we didnt care if we lost or won, or where in the charts we would end, it was fun plain and simple and we learned a lot as a kingdom.

I dont think many if any can beat CR if they are equal size and all active, some brilliant strategic minds there and all around huge amount of experience, thats where the respect should be and has been earned, but that doesnt mean people cant wave you.... The fact that you as "Girafs" bullied war tiers and demanded they warred you or you would raze them to the ground, speaks volume of how little respect you got for anyone else that you feel "beneath you"..

Let the trolling start O_o

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Couldnt have said it better myself :-p

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Originally Posted by xXxFoBxXx

Bart,
You being from the warring tier understand our position.

We don't play the politics BS, because we don't have time for it. We just wave bigger for war or be waved for war / CF, unless we can get a kingdom to agree to war. That is the way this game goes for us. All this other BS for crown etc is exactly that to us... BS...

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Don't try to act all noble. I have kept an eye on your kingdom after you waved mine and all you do is vulture. You tried to vulture CR as you noticed they were inactive, then you cry when they give you a spanking.

'We just wave bigger for war or be waved for war / CF' ~ I laughed hard. Such lies.

Enjoy the pounding.

I was confused this war even happened. Gf on fire turned us down for war when we were the same size then went after CR. Not really sure what the motivation was but lack of war targets wasn't one

I mean, it looks like these guys use munkbot more than we do (forgot we had an activity page)

Probably noticed we had like 4-5 guys who hadn't logged in over a week and were on super high gc stocks and no defense / tpa

Hence the, "omg they're sitting all the inactive people such cheatz0rs"

I did find it comical that munkbot activity chart was used to show that we 'multi'. How dare munk put together a tool that shows our hax!

I'll show a little respect once this "3 peat" kingdom didn't have to rely on sitting in wars.

Hipmunks decline a war with them which is undestandable since they just got our of a war and if you're from Sexis, if I recall they declined also.

Hipmunks didn't decline war, you messaged us two hours after the other kd withdrew and asked for war. I said give us 5 days and message us but never heard back. Wasn't going to commit to another war before half my kd even knew we won the current one lol.

Oh well, doesn't matter now.

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Originally Posted by Araqiel

Don't try to act all noble. I have kept an eye on your kingdom after you waved mine and all you do is vulture. You tried to vulture CR as you noticed they were inactive, then you cry when they give you a spanking.

'We just wave bigger for war or be waved for war / CF' ~ I laughed hard. Such lies.

Enjoy the pounding.

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That's an interesting comment. I would like to know which kingdom you are to claim that we vultured you. I do not recall waving any unready kingdom besides CareBears, which was in retaliation to them doing it to us after our first war. Marker even admitted he knew we would be returning the favor he dealt us earlier in the age. If you are Pinata, you guys should not have agree to war for ~48 hours only to retract that agreement less than 12 hours before wave. The king sent a message saying that his kingdom does not want to war or he will lose his votes for king. If you really need proof, I have learned my lesson in the pass, and I have retained that information to make available. If you are neither of these two kingdoms, please message me Privately and we can discuss or call me out on here which is fine as well.

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Originally Posted by Swagger

Hipmunks didn't decline war, you messaged us two hours after the other kd withdrew and asked for war. I said give us 5 days and message us but never heard back. Wasn't going to commit to another war before half my kd even knew we won the current one lol.

Oh well, doesn't matter now.

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Swagger, I apologize if there was miscommunication. My understanding from the person that talked with you said that you had asked us to war Sexies instead. Therefore, we took that as a decline for war. We did ask Sexies and they told us they wanted even more time to prepare (they were already 260 NWPA average) and they were trying to grow more before agreeing to war giving us only min time of more than 48 hours. A message was sent to your king or steward to ask whether you agreed to war with them because they offered additional CF time. Therefore, the four kingdoms within range at that time were Hipmunks, Gingers, Sexies, and CR. If you need evidence, I'll ask that person for the message you had sent. I am not aware of you asking for more time.

Can't you guys be sore losers elsewhere? It's pretty embarrassing to say the least. I'm pretty sure I'm getting close to just raze killing every single one of you for the rest of the round.

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Originally Posted by Godly

Can't you guys be sore losers elsewhere? It's pretty embarrassing to say the least. I'm pretty sure I'm getting close to just raze killing every single one of you for the rest of the round.

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Dogly,
No one is a sore loser and we already said you won the war! You're obviously not happy that a smaller kingdom would wave you because we don't give a sh1t who you are. Because we just dont... sorry bro, Utopia isn't life but the friendship and bound on here is much more... =)

idk why there needs to be drama here.

We are inactive, kd sees we are inactive and waves us. We train up and get slightly more active, with people that planned stuff setting sitting. We fill the two empty provs. We train enough to declare, declare, and win war. They made more mistakes than they needed to. People complaining about us using sitting are ridiculous, especially considering we had banks with troops home for hours during war.

Fin.

Where is zap? He's army home

6hrs later

"srry guis I was underwater practicing what would happen if I lost my scuba mask

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Originally Posted by Zauper

idk why there needs to be drama here.

We are inactive, kd sees we are inactive and waves us. We train up and get slightly more active, with people that planned stuff setting sitting. We fill the two empty provs. We train enough to declare, declare, and win war. They made more mistakes than they needed to. People complaining about us using sitting are ridiculous, especially considering we had banks with troops home for hours during war.

Fin.

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Exactly how I see it. Yes Godly is a character (in a good way), but I'm really not seeing the drama here.

There is no drama. I'm just stating that the so called "war tier" are just a bunch of useless losers like this kingdom that cry about everything. Wahh I dont want to war yet I'm not ready yet. Wahh you're bigger than me. Wahh you're smaller than me. Wahh you used sitters. It's ****ing embarrassing. Guess how it works in real utopia: you wave someone, they declare you. If they don't, you just keep beating them up until the round ends. There's no pre-arranged war rules, there's no PMs. You just fight.

Kudos to you guys for waving us, but the stupid PMs during the war complaining about using sitters was ridiculous. It was almost like you waved us assuming we would be inactive based on what you read on utalk and were pissed that we fixed it. To even make that line of argument should be so embarrassing that I can't imagine the kind of people that would make it. It's like challenging a guy you see with a cast on his arm to a fist fight and then finding out he put it on as a joke then you complain about him cheating or being lame after he knocks you out.

I walk around with a fake cast for the chicks, but as a secret agent astronaut billionaire, I get your point.

And congratulations CR.

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Originally Posted by Godly

There is no drama. I'm just stating that the so called "war tier" are just a bunch of useless losers like this kingdom that cry about everything. Wahh I dont want to war yet I'm not ready yet. Wahh you're bigger than me. Wahh you're smaller than me. Wahh you used sitters. It's ****ing embarrassing. Guess how it works in real utopia: you wave someone, they declare you. If they don't, you just keep beating them up until the round ends. There's no pre-arranged war rules, there's no PMs. You just fight.

Kudos to you guys for waving us, but the stupid PMs during the war complaining about using sitters was ridiculous. It was almost like you waved us assuming we would be inactive based on what you read on utalk and were pissed that we fixed it. To even make that line of argument should be so embarrassing that I can't imagine the kind of people that would make it. It's like challenging a guy you see with a cast on his arm to a fist fight and then finding out he put it on as a joke then you complain about him cheating or being lame after he knocks you out.

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lol sounds right to me.

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Originally Posted by StratOcastle

I walk around with a fake cast for the chicks, but as a secret agent astronaut billionaire, I get your point.

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Originally Posted by Godly

There is no drama. I'm just stating that the so called "war tier" are just a bunch of useless losers like this kingdom that cry about everything. Wahh I dont want to war yet I'm not ready yet. Wahh you're bigger than me. Wahh you're smaller than me. Wahh you used sitters. It's ****ing embarrassing. Guess how it works in real utopia: you wave someone, they declare you. If they don't, you just keep beating them up until the round ends. There's no pre-arranged war rules, there's no PMs. You just fight.

Kudos to you guys for waving us, but the stupid PMs during the war complaining about using sitters was ridiculous. It was almost like you waved us assuming we would be inactive based on what you read on utalk and were pissed that we fixed it. To even make that line of argument should be so embarrassing that I can't imagine the kind of people that would make it. It's like challenging a guy you see with a cast on his arm to a fist fight and then finding out he put it on as a joke then you complain about him cheating or being lame after he knocks you out.

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THIS. Whining about sitting is just so lame. Congrats to CR.

Whining about kingdoms using sitters isnt good I think not

sorry for my english

Can we get jwowzi selfies? At least then this thread worth reading.

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Originally Posted by LiveAndProsper

"Why would anyone multi when you can just legally set sitter?"

You openly admit that you need sitters to win that war? That's basically being a kid asking your mom for money for a pay to win game. Exploiting the stupid sitter option cause your kingdom isn't active enough his hilarious. Your kingdom may be top ten but really more like farms.

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Using a game feature the way it's intended is now an exploit?!
I'm pretty sure that every single somewhat organized kingdom uses the sitting function on a frequent basis. Why take the burden of an inactive province when the feature is available at a small cost?

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Originally Posted by LiveAndProsper

Multi vs mass sitting. Don't see the difference other than sitting is an option for Utopia to sell credits to make money. Hence as I mentioned earlier - pay to win

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Look up the meaning of pay2win pls

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Originally Posted by protector

Using a game feature the way it's intended is now an exploit?!
I'm pretty sure that every single somewhat organized kingdom uses the sitting function on a frequent basis. Why take the burden of an inactive province when the feature is available at a small cost?

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In Sparta we the rule that either 1 of the following 2 statements has to be true:

1. You're there.
2. You make sure someone else is there for you.

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Originally Posted by Doctor Zhivago

Whining about kingdoms using sitters isnt good I think not

sorry for my english

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Please don't apologize for your English. Those of us from the U.S. can only speak one language, with rare exceptions. We are humbled and honored you play Utopia and interact with us in forum.

Topical - Did Your GF on Fire gain enlightenment warring CR? I enjoy warring tough opponents to learn new approaches myself.

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Originally Posted by StratOcastle

Please don't apologize for your English. Those of us from the U.S. can only speak one language, with rare exceptions. We are humbled and honored you play Utopia and interact with us in forum.

Topical - Did Your GF on Fire gain enlightenment warring CR? I enjoy warring tough opponents to learn new approaches myself.

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Stratocastle,
One can only get better if they take the challenge and go up against better opponents - that's life. Learning is always something that one has to take into consideration to get better. And yes, notes were taken.

Also, many Americans I know are bilingual, including myself.... but I agree that there should be no apology for not writing proper English. Many Americans I know can't even right in English correctly! lol

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Originally Posted by xXxFoBxXx

Stratocastle,
One can only get better if they take the challenge and go up against better opponents - that's life. Learning is always something that one has to take into consideration to get better. And yes, notes were taken.

Also, many Americans I know are bilingual, including myself.... but I agree that there should be no apology for not writing proper English. Many Americans I know can't even right in English correctly! lol

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I laughed at the idea of "proper" English as if there really was such a thing.

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Originally Posted by khronosschoty

I laughed at the idea of "proper" English as if there really was such a thing.

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Well there is the Queen's British English :D

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Originally Posted by xXxFoBxXx

No one is whining about losing a war! Why not ask CR about the compliments and thanks for giving a war to get the age going again for the kd (many are not as active anymore until hostile was given by CR). And this was because not many kingdoms the same size would war them. Maybe before people start saying GF is whining, they should really reread the post. The only mention is whether or not Utopian should change the BABYSITTING option to allow for only 3 or so provinces, instead of 7. This would benefit us all - point being, why is the Vacation Mode locked in the same way to only a certain amount of provinces?

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Oh? Yes you complain about sitting a lot, but since this isn't the proper place to whine about such things(Hint: try the suggestions forum) it can only be assumed that you're whining about it because of how it impacts the war, ie 25v25 instead of 18v25, ie loosing.

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Originally Posted by LiveAndProsper

Wow. Been playing for ages and it still amazes me how top kingdoms running multi can get away with cheating yet other players can be deleted in an instant

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Originally Posted by LiveAndProsper

I'll show a little respect once this "3 peat" kingdom didn't have to rely on sitting in wars.

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Originally Posted by LiveAndProsper

Multi vs mass sitting. Don't see the difference other than sitting is an option for Utopia to sell credits to make money. Hence as I mentioned earlier - pay to win

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Originally Posted by LiveAndProsper

"Why would anyone multi when you can just legally set sitter?"
You openly admit that you need sitters to win that war? That's basically being a kid asking your mom for money for a pay to win game. Exploiting the stupid sitter option cause your kingdom isn't active enough his hilarious. Your kingdom may be top ten but really more like farms.

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This is pretty much constant whining, and considering it's a new account and the person has only posted in this very thread it's fairly obvious he's in GF's. But lets keep going.

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Originally Posted by xXxFoBxXx

I guess they aren't all multi, but there should be a limit on how many can actually go into Sitter mode. I do question the 2nd through 5th provinces. Looks like one player tbh.

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Originally Posted by xXxFoBxXx

Dogly,
You must pride yourself on your Utopia social standing huh? Not sure why the name calling etc to other Utopian players. Learn to respect others, but with a picture like that, I understand where you come from. That guy will make my vote liberal for the first time in my life! Anyways, you are using Multi to beat his kingdom, just an approved type of Multi-ing (one you pay for) lol. So don't go around saying you didn't Multi, when you did. However, that's ok, since it is a loophole in the game. Utopia should really use this example to drop the amount of sitters to max 3 or something...

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It's not a loophole, it's an intended function.

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Originally Posted by xXxFoBxXx

"He" called you cheaters, not "you" called us cheaters. Anyways, it's not cheating because it is a perfectly acceptable mean to get people away when needed. Abuse is just the problem, but it's still not cheating. You know, its like the US Welfare System. People don't work and take in money, but it's not really wrong that they do that, the system lets them. So it's legit and not seen correctly amongst many, but many still do it because it's legal to stay on welfare for life. So yes, I agree with you that you are not cheating and that his kingdom just ran into your kingdom who took advantage of an acceptable way to multi.

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Your comparisons with a welfare system borders on insane troll logic, but I attribute that to ignorance from not living in a nation with an actual welfare system.

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Originally Posted by xXxFoBxXx

Again, lets refer back to the Welfare System. I never said that no one is supposed to use the Welfare System, it's just OVERLY abused. Let's do a scenerio:

Woman (A) has 1 kid and she is not married and has a low paying job. She continues to bust her butt to get money to pay for her rent and strives to get her kid up everyday for school to have hope of making a better life for himself. Kid grows up and gets a good paying job and woman A gets off welfare and kid gets taxed and helps society.

Women (B) has 1 kid and she is not married and has a low paying job. She figures out that she can have 6 more kids and get more money from the government. She goes and sleeps with more guys and pops out another 6 kids who have deadbeat dads and the cycle repeats.
Moral: Don't be woman B

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Originally Posted by xXxFoBxXx

Wow, where did that one come from.
That's like me saying: Prostitution is OK, because you paid for the service. Two subjects that had nothing to do with your comment.
The example of the Welfare System is about the reflection of abusing a system.

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Here's your own posts which are almost universally moaning about how using sitting is abuse, this doesn't really have a place in the news section, thus it's moaning about how CR is somehow playing unfair and "abusing the system" if you want to change the system then go make a suggestion in the proper forum rather than whine here where it's not going to get picked up. In fact Swagger(as opposed to you) did go and make a thread, which is constructive at least.

This doesn't even include your comments that were deleted for breaking the forum rules of conduct.

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Originally Posted by Elldallan

Well there is the Queens British English :D

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heh

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Originally Posted by Elldallan

Well there is the Queens British English :D

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Matija, are you reading this?

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Originally Posted by azsxdcfv

Matija, are you reading this?

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You mean Queen's?

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

You mean Queen's?

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Hahaha!
Actually, I wasn't asking you to correct his English, but nevermind...

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Originally Posted by azsxdcfv

Hahaha!
Actually, I wasn't asking you to correct his English, but nevermind...

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Just a little snarky joke on my part.
I enjoy a good English lesson I have to admit, but I'm too lazy to look things up myself. Don't judge my knowledge by the way I post sometimes, when you write this fast you have no time to look things over, the way I write is more of the fashion in which I would talk to someone than anything else, add in the fact that this is not my mother tongue and voila. I actually know quite a bit about grammar, believe it or not, when I'm not slacking like this (shame on you Matija, shame).

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

Just a little snarky joke on my part.
I enjoy a good English lesson I have to admit, but I'm too lazy to look things up myself. Don't judge my knowledge by the way I post sometimes, when you write this fast you have no time to look things over, the way I write is more of the fashion in which I would talk to someone than anything else, add in the fact that this is not my mother tongue and voila. I actually know quite a bit about grammar, believe it or not, when I'm not slacking like this (shame on you Matija, shame).

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dem comma splices doe...

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

Just a little snarky joke on my part.
I enjoy a good English lesson I have to admit, but I'm too lazy to look things up myself. Don't judge my knowledge by the way I post sometimes, when you write this fast you have no time to look things over, the way I write is more of the fashion in which I would talk to someone than anything else, add in the fact that this is not my mother tongue and voila. I actually know quite a bit about grammar, believe it or not, when I'm not slacking like this (shame on you Matija, shame).

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I know what you mean. Personally, I can't be bothered to check for errors on a game forum, as I think it's a waste of time.

Just call it a utopian dialect and you speak it perfectly :)

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Just call it a utopian dialect and you speak it perfectly :)

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Yes. Keep them guessing or you're as good as gif blocked.

New York Queens English: pretty girls made prettier by every other word being "fwokin".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5p2wxnN6SQ

On tropic of cana: Everybody seems happy with the outcome :-)

O.M.G. strato. that post was like, soooo awsum. you like totally got what I was saying.