(2:2) vs (8:16) Best War This Age

You get called a rat cuz you participated in the gb for no other reason than not getting a reply

I just randomly joined a GB after 5 different KDs have already initiated and now they call me a rat wah wah wah.

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Originally Posted by Bananamancer2000

@meep @avenger

Oh I have no illusions as to why we weren't getting a CF. Mango would have the best deal of the top with a straight up cf. We are up land on BB and div.

I love the hostility here, I'm a first time monarch, I've played 5? Ages. Yet when a top of doesn't cf, it's very clear they want your land. The hipocrasy of being called a rat for taking acres, when we were going to be left and farmed, maybe after a war win when weak, maybe just right before eoa to try and sneak a crown. The hipocrasy of a whore Kingdome calling a 22 prov war KD rats, my goodness me. So when you call us a weak Kingdom to be hunted down? Yeah I like your odds, all your ages of top play, your top players, your 25 man. Screw you, the rest of the top CFed, I'd said in mails noone would be getting our land, your arrogance, or desperation lead you here.

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It's not hostility tbh.

It's just a matter of fact, everyone is in over their head their first age growing.

Your KD fell behind and grew late, so it was always going to be in a weaker position than us, so there's no incentive for us to CF, that's nothing personal, just safe business and keeping people at arms length.

But when you apparently inadvertently accidentally join a GB out of ignorance that it was happening because of not getting a CF response, that makes me likely to target you in the future.

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My Kingdom is great, the best, we've old players, players on their very first age, randoms, ghetto recruits, we have probably the youngest crown contender in Utopia at the moment. Panthira and I built this Kingdom, Panthira built me to being the player and leader I am. Maybe we are a "weak" Kingdom, but We'll end this age with more wars, wins, more land, honor, networth, and most of all, we had more fun. I'll take that over crowns any day, over the chance of a crown.

We will be here to fight, war, compete at whatever level we can. Teaching our players and learning ourselves. If you want more people to participate, less of this hunt people down BS, more respect, foster growth instead of breeding this crap.

Ciao

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Good to hear it, more competition is good for everyone.

But don't accidentally join GBs you have no political role in, because that's how you get hunted down :p

If you think people like Div or BB aren't in this completely for themselves, and would have your back in the future because you participated in hitting us, you should probably think again.

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Originally Posted by Meep

It's just a matter of fact, everyone is in over their head their first age growing.

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I was in crowning kingdom, first for the kingdom, mostly noobs. it can be done!

This would be without hostile I assume (in which CR waved) :

** Kingdom news report **
For the time from July 24 of YR8 till July 23 of YR9 - 168 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 796 (84,209 acres)
-- Traditional march: 673 (84,059 acres)
-- Ambush: 8 (103 acres)
-- Conquest: 2 (47 acres)
-- Massacre: 41 (461,326 population)
-- Plunder: 1
-- Abduct: 64
-- Failed: 7 (1% failure)
-- Uniques: 283
Total attacks suffered: 59 (999 acres)
-- Traditional march: 57 (999 acres)
-- Abduct: 1
-- Failed: 1 (1.7% failure)
-- Uniques: 19

** The kingdom of 2:2 **
Total land exchanged: +83,210 (796/59)
+7,319 Wang Yun (53/1)
+7,271 Finding Nemo (49/0)
+6,871 Liu Bei (79/1)
+6,433 Won Ton Bom (65/0)
+5,680 George Bush III (45/0)
+5,595 Chun Li (53/0)
+5,551 Zhao Zi Long (35/0)
+5,345 Sum Ting Wong (41/0)
+4,786 Taishi Chi (39/0)
+4,383 Cee Yu Lay Tah (33/0)
+4,357 Cindarella (41/0)
+3,636 Pei Songzhi (31/0)
+3,588 Long Duc Dong (37/0)
+2,911 Xiahou Dun (21/0)
+2,618 Cao Cao (29/0)
+2,238 Xu Chu (36/0)
+1,962 Mulan (13/0)
+1,671 Xiao Qiao (21/0)
+792 Tai Ne Bei Bi (16/0)
+602 Bang Ding OW (17/0)
+87 An unknown province (2/0)
+4 Dikshunnopur (14/8)
-490 BeastBlood (26/49)


** The kingdom of 8:16 **
Total land exchanged: -83,210 (59/796)
+10 An unknown province (1/0)
- Asdf (0/2)
-170 Nina Bo Nina Brown (0/1)
-973 ReppingYourMaxIsFunctional (13/8)
-1,074 flippitygibbert (0/5)
-1,660 The sky is on fire (0/7)
-1,867 Drunk and Dirty (0/12)
-2,013 S T A R L O R D (0/11)
-2,370 Something wicked (0/14)
-2,600 Whateva man (0/11)
-2,642 No Nose (0/12)
-2,707 Angry Gyarados (0/10)
-2,766 Amazing (0/32)
-3,051 HitenMitsurugi (0/14)
-3,115 Black russian (9/29)
-3,430 Anacardiaceae (1/97)
-3,710 Taco Stand (0/62)
-3,718 Wasnt Me Mr Policeman (0/28)
-3,923 Getmeoutofhere (0/20)
-4,539 Firefly (1/33)
-5,178 A teen gopher sins (0/56)
-5,584 Touching your Tralala (0/100)
-5,683 IRATEMONK (0/15)
-5,811 nice name (34/96)
-6,825 Go Pokemon Go (0/89)
-7,811 Sleeping Beauty (0/32)


** Uniques for 2:2 **
Liu Bei - 20
Won Ton Bom - 19
Sum Ting Wong - 19
Zhao Zi Long - 17
Cindarella - 17
Wang Yun - 15
George Bush III - 15
Chun Li - 15
Finding Nemo - 14
Pei Songzhi - 13
Long Duc Dong - 13
Taishi Chi - 13
Xu Chu - 13
Xiahou Dun - 12
Cee Yu Lay Tah - 12
Cao Cao - 10
Xiao Qiao - 10
Mulan - 10
Tai Ne Bei Bi - 9
BeastBlood - 7
Bang Ding OW - 6
Dikshunnopur - 4

** Uniques for 8:16 **
nice name - 11
ReppingYourMaxIsFunctional - 4
Black russian - 3
Firefly - 1

** Highlights **
Most land gained in a single tradmarch
Zhao Zi Long: 1,380 acres.

Most land lost in a single tradmarch
Dikshunnopur: 45 acres.

Least land gained in a single tradmarch
Taishi Chi: 4 acres.

Least land lost in a single tradmarch
BeastBlood: 8 acres.

Most land regained in a single ambush
Dikshunnopur: 22 acres.

Least land regained in a single ambush
Dikshunnopur: 8 acres.

Most bounces made by
Long Duc Dong, Xu Chu, Chun Li, Cee Yu Lay Tah, Won Ton Bom, Zhao Zi Long, Finding Nemo: 1 times.

Most bounces received by
Wang Yun: 1 times.

Dragon sent to 8:16 on April 4 of YR9
July 24 of YR8 - War declared on 8:16

InbeforeDB

Meep meep meeeeeeeeep, u guys are a joke next time war us , or maby afraid...

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Originally Posted by FatCat

Meep meep meeeeeeeeep, u guys are a joke next time war us , or maby afraid...

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Ironic someone in Barco has a problem with a farm war.

i like how meep & co were "cruising to victory" but now it seems they "weren't even trying"

https://media.giphy.com/media/swtiK9jRfE0zS/giphy.gif

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Originally Posted by FatCat

Meep meep meeeeeeeeep, u guys are a joke next time war us , or maby afraid...

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Why didnt you push the button, pretty sure you had it for a long time? Scared? lol.

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Originally Posted by wingding

i like how meep & co were "cruising to victory" but now it seems they "weren't even trying"

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-We were cruising to victory
-We got DB'd
-We decided we'd rather action that than worry about the age
-We got noticed while doing that
-So we dodged with a wave
-So we got DB'd again

Are you mad? Because we aren't.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Why didnt you push the button, pretty sure you had it for a long time? Scared? lol.

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They still have it

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Originally Posted by swagger

they still have it

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\:d/

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Originally Posted by Swagger

They still have it

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We're OOR

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Originally Posted by Meep

We're OOR

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Only by 600k nw as it currently stands

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Originally Posted by Meep

-We were cruising to victory
-We got DB'd
-We decided we'd rather action that than worry about the age
-We got noticed while doing that
-So we dodged with a wave
-So we got DB'd again

Are you mad? Because we aren't.

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why would i be mad? i just love how the story always changes w you and your butthurt level

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Originally Posted by wingding

why would i be mad? i just love how the story always changes w you and your butthurt level

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What story changes?

The story gets added to as time unfolds.

That's kind of how time works.

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

there were quite a few unanswered hits into divinity. It wasn't just one but 2 wars even with that "tactic". It was literally explained in one of those threads that there is no such thing as a minimum number of hits. People warned then that this could set a bad precedent.

y'all can't just decide to GB anyone for any reason just because you think they don't deserve a crown. Or..you can, but don't be surprised if after a while someone won't play your game. And then, when things still don't work out you can't cry to get kingdoms deleted that messed up your plans.

Simple solution is of course to delete all kingdoms involved in wars that consisted of an unnatural lopsided hit count. How would that suit you?

Also as stated a few times already, it can either be a deal break in which case it's not a fake war since there was an agreement or a fake war in which case the GB was unjustified( are they ever? ). Y'all chose the DB/GB route.

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Divinity did not have a war with dozens and dozens of hits from only one side for 48+ hours,

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January 1 of YR10 The Lords of Utopia have ruled that victory in this war is beyond our reach. They have declared Sparta Remembers (2:2) victorious.

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nor in which one side remained for the entire minimum time to allow the hitting side to farm as many acres as possible.

Moderators won't do anything about this lopsided fake war. They rely too much of these players to boost their ad incomes. No hits from the 2.2 to Spartans after min and Spartans feed, grow and get enough honor to get the crowns they want. Pretty sure they made a deal for next age of adding lube next time around

CR stayed in this war to avoid farming out to others. It's "tactics" you see. You have a precedent set.

Cr

Doesn't

Exist

The kingdom of Cromulent Republic

Does now :)

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Originally Posted by LiveAndProsper

Moderators won't do anything about this lopsided fake war. They rely too much of these players to boost their ad incomes. No hits from the 2.2 to Spartans after min and Spartans feed, grow and get enough honor to get the crowns they want. Pretty sure they made a deal for next age of adding lube next time around

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Moderators moderate forums. Support however do action things ingame and the amount people spend doesn't enter into the equation.

I would love to hear why devs are not punishing this. Also I would like to ask what is classified as a fake war? If you have no classification for what a fake war is why is it a rule? Thing about games is they are only fun with rules. Anyways love to have a response but I assure you will lose my kingdom/customers if cheating is going to be allowed in the game.

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Originally Posted by Bishop

Moderators moderate forums. Support however do action things ingame and the amount people spend doesn't enter into the equation.

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We really need different colors lol

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Originally Posted by Andurilas

Divinity did not have a war with dozens and dozens of hits from only one side for 48+ hours,

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They didn't?

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Originally Posted by Persain

we didnt avoid a conflict we were 100% going to enter into one with barco or cr. HOW we entered into one was our choice, and as zero agreements were made beyond the "war offer/push button" its hardly even remotely along the fake war lines. As even meep in your own kd pointed out they lost more nw than we did and we even lost land lol...so clearly we were doing something. As for not hitting, we hit 3-4 times during war as safe and recovered 1/3 of our lost land via a withdraw wave. IT was actually MORE hits for land in a 2 day war v barcolco than a 113 hour war v Spartans. You dont like how we war, then dont war us....or war us on terms we will quickly agree to....never herd u suggest u'd wait till we explored and offer us 1/2 your gc prep to fight equal land equal gc. Being upset that we chose a war v risking 2 open notices and a 5-6 day non hostile that could destroy us doesnt make u magically god and us ants.

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Originally Posted by Meep

-We were cruising to victory
-We got DB'd
-We decided we'd rather action that than worry about the age
-We got noticed while doing that
-So we dodged with a wave
-So we got DB'd again

Are you mad? Because we aren't.

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I still do not understand why people chose to GB you. It is a shame really.

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Originally Posted by LiveAndProsper

Moderators won't do anything about this lopsided fake war. They rely too much of these players to boost their ad incomes. No hits from the 2.2 to Spartans after min and Spartans feed, grow and get enough honor to get the crowns they want. Pretty sure they made a deal for next age of adding lube next time around

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It was not fake. It was a Gb by multiple KDs. I understand why people do not hit out and try to remain UB. I do however believe that by hitting back, CR would have suffered less losses.

Will Spartans raze off the acres from the GB/policing(lol)?

Spartan vs The Mango has ended, is it a coincidence that Divinity, Beastblood, Sleepy and Mehuls main army all have entered fortified now?

Personly I do not believe in coincidences.

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Originally Posted by Spice

Will Spartans raze off the acres from the GB/policing(lol)?

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Will BB and Div? We already know the answer to all these questions.

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Originally Posted by Coldhearted

I would love to hear why devs are not punishing this. Also I would like to ask what is classified as a fake war? If you have no classification for what a fake war is why is it a rule? Thing about games is they are only fun with rules. Anyways love to have a response but I assure you will lose my kingdom/customers if cheating is going to be allowed in the game.

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This has been explained in this thread a bunch of times. You seem to keep posting your retardation just rephrased every page somehow expecting different results.

If people didn't want this to be a "fw" then they probably shouldn't have hit into it as often as they did until the point where one side had such an advantage that it made no sense for the other to send out. The cognitive dissonance from some of you people is laughable.

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Originally Posted by sexual harassment panda

This has been explained in this thread a bunch of times. You seem to keep posting your retardation just rephrased every page somehow expecting different results.

If people didn't want this to be a "fw" then they probably shouldn't have hit into it as often as they did until the point where one side had such an advantage that it made no sense for the other to send out. The cognitive dissonance from some of you people is laughable.

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I have not seen one post from the new devs on this topic. Also only a complete idiot would think that was a real war. CR used war stance to protect a farm out to Spartans. That's an abuse of war stance and the winner was pre determined anyone with a brain knows it. You can try and spin it anyway you want but people with actual intellect or 1st grade level can see this. Now if devs would like to come on here and clarify that what you guys did was within the rules.

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Originally Posted by Coldhearted

I have not seen one post from the new devs on this topic. Also only a complete idiot would think that was a real war. CR used war stance to protect a farm out to Spartans. That's an abuse of war stance and the winner was pre determined anyone with a brain knows it. You can try and spin it anyway you want but people with actual intellect or 1st grade level can see this. Now if devs would like to come on here and clarify that what you guys did was within the rules.

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How was it pre-determined if we dealbroke them? You know, the rationale you all used for the GB?

Besides, only a complete idiot would think that waving into a war against one side only would make that side more inclined to keep sending out and lose more.

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Originally Posted by Madchess

Spartan vs The Mango has ended, is it a coincidence that Divinity, Beastblood, Sleepy and Mehuls main army all have entered fortified now?

Personly I do not believe in coincidences.

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You've got no idea lol....

Only a complete idiot would assume I wouldnt ban them for insulting other people. Play nicely or you won't post in here again.

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Originally Posted by sexual harassment panda

How was it pre-determined if we dealbroke them? You know, the rationale you all used for the GB?

Besides, only a complete idiot would think that waving into a war against one side only would make that side more inclined to keep sending out and lose more.

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I run a warring kingdom that has nothing to do with this situation. I am just tired of the cheating. **** play, dealbreak, jerks and everything else is part of the game. Cheating is supposed to be policed by the devs. See I care about utopia and tired of seeing people cheat to undermine the game.

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Originally Posted by Coldhearted

I run a warring kingdom that has nothing to do with this situation. I am just tired of the cheating. **** play, dealbreak, jerks and everything else is part of the game. Cheating is supposed to be policed by the devs. See I care about utopia and tired of seeing people cheat to undermine the game.

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Look at it as the moshpit. We can choose to stay out, provided we're not near the edge. I understand your concern because of your proximity. If you do get caught up in it just ride the lightning. And don't forget: there is no spoon.

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Originally Posted by LiveAndProsper

Moderators won't do anything about this lopsided fake war. They rely too much of these players to boost their ad incomes. No hits from the 2.2 to Spartans after min and Spartans feed, grow and get enough honor to get the crowns they want. Pretty sure they made a deal for next age of adding lube next time around

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Just some insight to help you as your really don't have all the information.

CR Waved Sparta:

** The kingdom of 8:16 **
Total land exchanged: +15,471 (30/17)

** The kingdom of 2:2 **
Total land exchanged: -15,406 (19/30)


Actions commence, CR gave us relations. They get GBd, Sparta forts and pumps. Sparta finishes pump and declares on CR. CR Takes a large amount of outside hits, CR TANKS. At this point, they can only turtle and op as if they send out they either get shredded inside of war or from outside. They were doing fairly well for a bit with focusing on taking down some of our provinces, but we switched to hard masses and fairly quickly. Eventually they could no longer op as effectively. Just to show you my log of ops on my province alone here it is. There were others who had it worse.


Lost 4,719 acres, 8,634 peasants due to meteors, fireballs, kindnappings, attacks and landlusts.
Wizzards caught x86, offenders - Cee Yu Lay Tah (2:2), IRATEMONK (8:16), Something wicked (8:16), Getmeoutofhere (8:16), Go Pokemon Go (8:16), Angry Gyarados (8:16), S T A R L O R D (8:16), No Nose (8:16), Whateva man (8:16), Drunk and Dirty (8:16)
Received 6,768,146 gold coins, 198,338 runes, 10,291 soldiers in aid from kingdom mates.
Received 40 acres from the utopia lords (new month).
2295 acres of buildings has been burnt down in 56 operations.
Thieves caught x115, offenders - Firefly (8:16), nice name (8:16), Something wicked (8:16), Drunk and Dirty (8:16), S T A R L O R D (8:16), Asdf (8:16), Wasnt Me Mr Policeman (8:16), Go Pokemon Go (8:16), ReppingYourMaxIsFunctional (8:16), Whateva man (8:16), Angry Gyarados (8:16)
Lost 19,334,352 gold coins, 22,172 runes to thieves, lightning strikes and fools' gold.
Spells vortexed 2 times for total of 7 vortexed spells.
The wizards were attacked 71 times for a total of 9029 wizards killed.


For a FW their early rounds sure didn't seem to be that fake.

Finally someone posts an actual response. But how to explain CR just chilling in war while their opponent rapes them for acres well after min time?