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During this time she was his GF not official wife. I dont know if they marry later or not. So far i can imagine its was realy mess for him all this situation. You cant dump your GF for something she did in online game. Right? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
Maybe she dumped him for what he did.
Realest was a win at all cost type. He was fully aware of what was happening.
That is technically still hacking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
Yes, i think he was aware. Still i cant understand all this hate what had Realest and ASF/Dorje. Its was insane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Still what Realest did put us in disadvantage, BUT he bring some really good plaers. I think octo is one from them just from bottom 20 in kd roster :D
Meet Syntico was great pleasure for me too!
It might have been Syntico who was getting married actually, lol, sorry. Easy to mix up, who'd memorize all these stories correctly if you were not actually there.
Hack is when some one use tools for rob your login data. Vers and players in rage have shared his login/pass in Kd they was together. Its not hack?Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Hacking is using a computer to gain unwanted access to a server/account/etc. Unless you're claiming they wanted Vers to log into their account, which is just silly.
Obviously some of the blame falls on the rage players for not changing the password, but that still doesn't make it acceptable for others to use your info in unintended ways. It's sorta like leaving your house unlocked. You've really got it coming when someone effortlessly steals your stuff, but that doesn't make it ok for someone to just come and steal your stuff
I agree with you and Korp about this. If some one in past shared his info with other its because he trusted you. Just because now you are in different kingdoms its not right to back-stab his trust and log his accounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Clarey -> Versace! They're like the Bill and Hillary of 'Topia.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
Idk if she's the best mole in history as the nature of the field makes it difficult to evaluate but she's definitely the one I look up to.
Oh of course it would be the same person, she's everywhere!
clarey and versace werent the same person.
Clarey cant keep secrets. She naturally leak :)
Its different people too.
Was this the second dice age when we had to convert a few provs to get a brute cf for some abs kds cuz brute had better killers than the abs kds?Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Or was it the first dice age where sanc and grace? did the same dice setup but did it wrong and gave their acres away to non abs, but since theu weren't abs it was OK?
OK, I'm confused. Some people on the internet married other people on the internet, let's leave it at that.
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Originally Posted by Elit
Funny stuff Elit. Dreams age 50 win was during alliance war and was only possible by you deal breaking Webmaster so you can't consider it something very impressive. Rage was the strongest war kingdom the majority of the ages they were around and would have almost assuredly had more crowns than their already impressive number if they were independent.
Playboys indeed was a very good kingdom. My war record is 3-0 vs them including two crowns after farming them ;) Another great kingdom, Brute Force, became Elvut after being farmed by Rage. Remember that time you/Dreams noticed Rage and publicly posted you would war us, then you backed out and tried to 2v1 us with BIO helping and we still farmed you both? Fun times!
Here we go, rofl.
Rage would have less crowns if they were solo just look how Rage turned slowly to **** as Absaloms power dwindled. You must be drunk if you think that Absalom had nothing to do with your success story. But I guess its easy to claim things when you never have to own up to them. :) PS remember how Rage lost to SWEA? lul.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Thank you for your almost out-and-out admission that Absalom kingdoms had to take turns crowning.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
The rest is basically nonsense, Rage was a strong kingdom and arguably the most consistent over the longest period, but at no point in its existence was it the best.
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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
ASF vs Elit is a classic.
The Korp seems interested too!
Edit: And Steel!
Age 50 didn't had any alliance war. All what we had is ABS arrange GB from age begin on alone kingdom because you have some old vendetta with Realest/Sonata. Its not alliance war.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Webmaster deal broke Dreams for no reason. He promised me and his ally sleepy/fratzia he will stay oout from GB but he still deal break us. I have no moral problem to deal break him back for it and its was approved from his own ally before we did it.
Rage never was strong waring kingdom, you was strong political kingdom put your Kd in better position before you war. Its why normally you win your wars.
Brute Force you refer is not same Bruteforce. Its after YF and other core leaders left. Your win is not win vs Brute force.
PBs is kingdom with long history and Transformation. Did you win when its was under Lennox/Matty lead or when other people was in charge because its was again different kind PBs KD.
When here is topic in forum all time people start name Pansies/Serenity/Brute/PBs but never anyone outside Rage/ABS mention Rage. Do you know why? Because Rage never did something to inspire people and say this was cool how all other mention KDs. If you look over chart statistic over ages here is not Single age when ABS don't controll top and here is 1 ABS in top. Its because how you lead your alliance. Sure you are great alliance leader, maybe the best and ABS was best alliance but you power play your way in top. Its why every one hated ABS and its why when you don't control top you cant Survive here.
Sanctuary was really good waring kingdom and they proved it many times. they had his ages go for war beat waring kingdoms and war in top win good wars too. Rage never have done something like it. So you fall behind Sanctuary in my chart too.
You are good at mix stories from different time. Age 50 Dreams won his age in very competitive age with over 20 real kingdoms. Age 51 we did attempt for triple crown and we almost success it. Still here was few major factors what no one can predict. One is honor gains bug changed from deavs middle age and its ruined everything for us and second is stagnation in top leave very few kingdoms. HoH had his Cfs and free pump almost all age and ABS was abit behind/ally with HoH/ From other side Dreams spend 3-4 weeks waring. Its huge difference in land size= huge difference how sci system worked back. Only way for counter it is high honor but devs change it too. Not to mention Sanctuary abused max meter limit = was 300 points for keep us in hostile for 2 full weeks and never declare war. Yes its how you=ABS play. Very dirty team play against main competitors. Still we manage to deal with all problems and grow very fast. Now its came HoH. They did really good move give us notice in most critical moment. If they have done its 1 week later will be ready to beat them. So after some hostile we did CF and left only rage. Its was clear we will came for you! BUT here was some big Asians festival and like 6-7 people gone for real meet and they was supposed to back in time for incoming hostile. What ha pend is they decide to extend his time and we left with missing 6-7 people. They was on sitting but still you don't go war like this went 1/3 from KD is missing. Its why i gave up war and told you very clear we wont war so don't waste your time. You choice to do it so we acted adequate.
BTW ASF its good you are around, i wanted to talk to you for other maters too. I got offer to join Kd this age, but surprising i found your wife play here. So do you mind if i'm together with your wife? I mean in 1 KD! I can share with her many fumy stories about past :)
What you think about this. Can i join or not?
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Originally Posted by Elit
This is why Elit is often my favourite poster :)
pretty much spot on all the way, also the last kingdom to beat the real Brute Force was KO after they hadent lost a war in 6 ages we beat them with a Avian setup where we killed 6 of them, after that BF was no more (the real one) also to even compare a kingdom like Rage with BF hahahahaha, tho i admit Rage had one good age when i was leading Lust where they had humans and more sci then god.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
Elit, The age I referenced, Rage was #1 as pumped sages and we also were deal broke and gb'd (by your Dreams co-leaders) for no reason other than we were too strong for anyone to beat 1v1. It was similar to your Dreams age. I actually did/do consider your Dreams victory impressive too. You're of course perfectly fine to play with my wife or anywhere you like.
Mike, you and Sylver had some impressive and dominant wins over Brute. I was always impressed by them. But you underestimate Rage vs Brute. Rage was a superkingdom merger of Destiny and Alias with he best from both kingdoms and Zoot was every bit a match for YF, not to mention other great leaders like Savannah, titan, myself, and about 10 other top leaders including people who founded other top kingdoms like Sanctuary.
Who are these ghettoes?
well to be fair i do think zoot was great ;)
You fail to understand something. Age 46? Its was alliance war involve many kingdoms from both sides. You won only because you had like 10 Kds help you. Age 50 Dreams had zero kingdoms to help us during GB. Its was first age for new kingdom. We had no ally. If rage was in same situation you wont have won. Second you miss after all GB and BS i got, still when Proteus came to me and ask when "big solo cow dont remember name" Suicde/hit rage if we can stay away and not hit him. I told him yes we wont farm acres like this. Some other Kds used situation for gain acres. I really did my best for get proper relation Dreams and ABS.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Second, you blame Realest for age 46 but he didn't play or lead KD. You can blame him for what he did first 2 ages on Sonata. Its hard to explain but Realest is naturally born troll. He can trick any one with his words. He challenge Simians with Trolfages when he didn't play in Kd at all. He is this kind "master". From other side he is really good on keep kd channel alive and high motivated.
I am bit worried though, there is no wall of text from ASF.
Maybe he grow up after get married. Im positive about this!Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
I'd like to say Elit's earlier post about the differences between BF/Pbs/Sanc and Rage is pretty accurate in my opinion
Isn't it the same post he always makes though?
PS
Does Realest teach his craft anywhere?
I think at least one of asf wins vs pbs was during pbs prime. Was it age 23?
@elit
So far here is some really funny logs during GB so i will share part from it with no intention to offend any one.
[10:37] <@flogger> ASF - you're going to have to drop booting those players if you want any cessation
01[10:37] <&Elit> all this gb is for farm land
[10:37] <@flogger> your point was made, and most anyone outside would think revenge was taken
01[10:37] <&Elit> have noting about justice
01[10:37] <&Elit> and its clear for all
[10:37] <&AquaSeaFoam> i understand that, i'm asking for proposing something new
01[10:37] <&Elit> just you use escuse fro 4-5 ages dead kd
[10:37] <&AquaSeaFoam> because to me, sonata = gb
[10:37] <@flogger> the only proposal that makes any sort of sense is just stopping now
[10:37] <@flogger> neither side is going to give up anything
[10:38] <&AquaSeaFoam> so if they are gonna stay sonaga, then propose a way to change that
[10:38] <&AquaSeaFoam> stay sonata
01[10:38] <&Elit> well AquaSeaFoam
01[10:38] <&Elit> if this keep gains
01[10:38] <&Elit> going
[10:38] <~dorje> i have to say i would not be happy with the sonata core winning another age regardless
01[10:38] <&Elit> there will be only one solution for me to stop
[10:38] <&Dirty`> you should be fine dorje
[10:38] <&Dirty`> we wont win
[10:38] <~dorje> and as i said an immediate end here would give you a 20% chanec of winning imo
01[10:38] <&Elit> if you leave abs lead
01[10:38] <&Elit> you are not capable for it
01[10:38] <&Elit> blind ppl from hate cant lead alliances
[10:39] <&AquaSeaFoam> you're wrong there
[10:39] <&Dirty`> even if we were going to win
[10:39] <&AquaSeaFoam> they can
[10:39] <&Dirty`> you would just gb us again
[10:39] <&Dirty`> youve shown your cfs mean nothing
01[10:39] <&Elit> but if you drop abs lead i will kick all sonata ppl
[10:39] <&Dirty`> so whats the difference
01[10:39] <&Elit> its deal
[10:39] <&AquaSeaFoam> but i think you underestimate my sight
01[10:39] <&Elit> get respond for your action
[10:39] <&AquaSeaFoam> is that a promise elit?
[10:39] <~dorje> not true Dirty` ; every absalom napbreak has been in response to another similar napbreak
01[10:39] <&Elit> step down from abs lead
01[10:39] <&Elit> and i will kick all sonata ppl
[10:39] <~dorje> i know you see me as narrow-minded but that's really my logic
[10:39] <&AquaSeaFoam> is that a promise?
01[10:39] <&Elit> its my offer
[10:39] <&Dirty`> huh? what are you saying elit
[10:40] <&AquaSeaFoam> I accept elit.
[10:40] <~dorje> Elit, please god no! he's been looking for an excuse for years!
01[10:40] <&Elit> i wans AquaSeaFoam to step down from lead abs
[10:40] <&AquaSeaFoam> I resign my absalom position of Court
[10:40] <@flogger> and make proteus take your court seat!
[10:40] <&AquaSeaFoam> no flogger
01[10:40] <&Elit> you still lead it
[10:40] <&AquaSeaFoam> no, i dont
01[10:40] <&Elit> dorje cant make decisions
[10:40] <@flogger> ASF is quite inactive
[10:40] <&AquaSeaFoam> i honestly and officially resign
01[10:40] <&Elit> when i asked him
01[10:40] <&Elit> so its all up to you
[10:40] <@flogger> I think ASF is serious
[10:40] <&Dirty`> we arent kicking anyone
[10:40] <&Dirty`> ive already said it
01[10:41] <&Elit> ok :(
[10:41] <&AquaSeaFoam> elit sait you would
[10:41] <&AquaSeaFoam> said
[10:41] <&Dirty`> i guess he lied to you again
01[10:41] <&Elit> hahahaha
[10:41] <&Dirty`> when push comes to shove i win
[10:41] <&Dirty`> and hes overruled
[10:41] <&AquaSeaFoam> so you just tricked me into resingning my court position and backed out of the deal after i did it?
[10:41] <@flogger> jesus dorje running amock running abs would be a nightmare
[10:41] <&AquaSeaFoam> nice. well i'm done here, night
03[10:41] * &AquaSeaFoam (~no@uto-DA352677.hlrn.qwest.net) has left #totalk
[10:42] <&Dirty`> that guy is nuts
[10:42] <&Dirty`> in his hate
01[10:42] <&Elit> no
01[10:42] <&Elit> he iscomplete idiot
01[10:42] <&Elit> i was arong for him to be samart
[10:42] <@flogger> I think you and him made a deal
[10:42] <@flogger> and he was willing to do it
[10:42] <@flogger> and you accepted
hahahahahahahahahahahaha
Did you even consider other explanations for this "relation"? For example, that as Rage got weaker, Absalom's power dwindled? Or that Rage and Absalom's powers depended both on the same variable: a few key leaders that stopped playing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
PS http://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations
So Rage nor Absalom could handle few key players quitting? Albeit being such great alliances and "strongest warring kd in Utopia". Whats more likely is that since more people quit resulted in fewer Absalom kingdoms, fewer Absalom kingdoms meaning there was no dominant position, no dominant position to powerplay less success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bourreau
None of these KDs could survive the test of time after key leadership members left. It's "simple" because of the type of leadership it was ;)
ABS power was all about alliance team play not around individual Kingdoms skills. Is true in alliance was very good plaers. I dont know good zoot but from what i remember he was good, carsen (name is with typo) too. I cant really say how good was Titan, but sure he was arrogant. He is first ABS leader i meet during my ghetto lead days and one from 3 kingdoms i punished being ~~30% smaller.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bourreau
Overal you have point but this don't change fact Rage never prove something outside ABS limits.
I had friends in ABS in past too, Zxen if remember name correct and other. Here was guy in ABS (details can be wrong) from Holland i meet in gen and i recommended him Girl from Bulgaria. They failed in love and married. Past is full with different stories.