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Utopia A History.
Who was leading Playboys?
The message wasn't read as I was sleeping when it was sent, so that is lie. And when I woke up, the raze was already done.
And uh, do you honestly really really really think we would explore in eowcf to hit a random exploring n00b? Or would we prepare for the #1 kingdom? Let that sudder for a bit and then consider which reality is more likely; yours or mine.
You are just a sore loser for still trying to defend your/Bourreau's actions.
An excuse for a lone province to raze and offer all land back for a cf? Umm....ok.
As was established in the old threads on this topic, Borreau messaged the M and S asking for a cf and one of them read it and didn't respond. He then messaged others in the kingdom who were online asking them to respond urgently and these also didn't get a response. A couple hours later he then razed for attention and again messaged asking for a cf and offered to give back all the land razed for a cf. As was well established, he had a very brief window where BB had essentially no defense after they released all d specs, and if he waited, BB would have trained up and had no reason to give him a cf.
The #1 kingdom (Emeriti) was in cf talks with you and BB leadership was indicating they preferred to cf Emeriti and so Emeriti advised Borreau to get himself a cf fast. As for the sore loser comment, it was not me who brought this incident up here, I just corrected the facts. I believe my record vs BB is approximately 9 wins and 1 loss and that one loss to the Pulsing Trollfags was well earned by them. Emeriti was about to beat BB again with the cf set to expire and that is when BB had to resort to a gb rather than lose another 1v1 war. To be clear, Emeriti never even touched BB in this and their role was just to advise a lone ghetto province to get himself a cf since Emeriti was in talks to cf BB leaving BB free to farm said #1 prov.
"Lone province" that was friends with Emereiti and which Emeriti gave "advice" to have to act towards an enemy. If the roles were opposite, you wouldnt be this defensiveQuote:
An excuse for a lone province to raze and offer all land back for a cf? Umm....ok.
There is no facts its merely words against words. But somehow you believe that your words are worth more than the people involved in the issue.. Its sad that you still choose to clinge to this approach even after all these years.
Personal experience Emeriti is harder than any other top kd to get a cf with in a shell kingdom as a few growing provinces because they'll simply ignore your messages.
I've been in that situation 3 ages in a row a while back, the age I went generally without cf's I never was randommed by BB but a few other top kingdoms tried, never was randommed by Spartans either they can have that. Was thretened by Emeriti for randomming them at a time they had given up on the crown and was viciously randomming everyone arround for science, that is why I sought a cf with them even when I generally tried to make it without cf's. While in generel they also don't seem to actively engage shells if it came down to a very close top fight I believe they would be the ones attempting to farmout every avalible province in the top not involved with either kingdom.
Neither of those kingdoms is the worst ever though to be the worst kingdom ever you would have to aim for unrealistic goals or have almost reached your goals only to toss it away due to your own folly, warring kingdoms seek wars, growing kingdoms seek easy acres, both seems to do one of the two and even if you can not crown every age and can't win every war even when at your strongest it still shows skills that you aim for something that you can realistically achieve even if it is only winning 1 war or getting to 2k acres, for some people those are milestones while others has to be #1 to be satisfied, most are in between and that is fine to.
A former kingdom fellor of mine once put it this way aim high get higher.
The worst kingdom ever will forever be clouded in the mist of obscurity and time since they never achieved anything and therefore few outside of it will remember.
No, you think you established that. The facts show otherwise.
As for CF talks; I dont recall speaking to anyone about CF and the verdict in our leaderchan was we wouldn't CF you. I'm not even sure where this suddenly comes from anyway? This is a first time I hear this.
And as for your record.... The sore loser comment has nothing to do with having won or lost a fight, its because you still deny things that happened 10 years ago, while knowing there was evidence from your leaderchannel that prove you wrong. Hence; sore loser.
And this lone province being a former emeriti.. well, lets put it this way; if I raze your cow while my former kingdom is about to fight you a few days later, the server would be too small for the ****storm that'll run over.
While I'm sure this fantasy land of having a 9 to 1 war win record is a great place to live (I happen to remember maybe losing land 2 or 3 times, and out-crowning Rage or Emeriti during our respective times playing together. But yes, dorje has done better than my old stomping grounds, unfortunately, I wish it weren't the case),
But let's just stick to the logs for the facts on this incident?
From your council chan. The orders were clear a minute after a message was sent. If only emeriti's great talent at winning wars could be harnessed to predict that a kingdom lead by me wouldn't endlessly farm a ghetto province given that I've never done that ever in like 40 ages, and instead was gunning for a 1/2 fight, which I've done for almost 40 ages.
cerberusv6.66 7:34 PM
I think we lose them, and I think we want homes
if we're going to fight, we need to go all in on the preparation
before, wehn it looked like it was just one big prov, it looked a lot less scary
things as they stand look very loseable for us
so yeah, we need to do as much as possible. I' not sure what is optimal for said preparation though
but I don't think we want stables while we're preparing
bour 7:41 PM
msged BB ingame
Off. Points 66,646
cerberusv6.66 7:42 PM
gonna get that cf?
bour 7:42 PM
will try to get it
cerberusv6.66 7:42 PM
give them at most 3 hours to respond
start killing if they don't answer or try to delay
imo
bour 7:44 PM
the guy has 12k defense
lol
Lastly there's always the little inconvenient fact that you could have prevented us from farming your ghetto friend simply by engaging us in a war. We were #1 and #2 at the time. You say now it's a war you would have won, but the logs seems to imply you wouldn't. And the sheer fact you weren't planning on stopping us from farming Bour yourself indicates it wasn't a war you were favored to win. Fact of the matter is BB or BB friendly kds for the large part of 20 straight ages either won vs abs or let HoH win. Mostly cause HoH only became friendly with abs from me bringing them in during the sonata awar, and from me knowing it'd drive the rest of the abs kds crazy.
But going from age 48 (My first age leaving Abs) to age 65 (the awar age, and my last age playing with BB). Crown counts were 5 for me and 2 for Rage/Emeriti. Give you points for HoH wins or Sanc wins and give me points for like Jerk wins or AMA wins, and it's 11 to 6. Emeriti got one win the age before the awar age as you kept it secret that you were even competing so you caught me off guard once. I was looking forward to reminding y'all who was the BKE the following age, shame ya didn't feel confident enough to let us pump in EoW in peace.
That was a good 5 years of being 2nd best, I suppose fantasyland is a more pleasant place to reside.
What's your crown count at now greatniss? ;)
AMA have few crown and if have accepted some offers can have few more.
Crowns alone don't have much value. Its more important what influence have one KD in his active ages over rest in server. We didn't had single boring age like many other "long living" KDs in TOP.
p.s.
About Jerks crowns i have much more credits from Zauper! So far after Jerks had his WW 2h before age end 4-5KDs offered me to all wave them and secure AMA crown. Its one from offers i refused. I don't see any value win crown like it for us or Jerks.
My favorite hoh win was the age we invented the 125% BE pump and farmed Rage for 30k despite being 60k acres smaller and hoh ended up winning by 70k. I’m sure that’s somehow counted as a “win” much like the age bio won but hit and ran rage to more acres lost for another crown.
Making setups that don’t win land crown but let you never press withdraw doesn’t take much skill, unless your goals are getting the war win crown. Just make a buncha faeries. Rage vs Freakstyle would be fun to watch, though.
:o
This game is still alive?
Dungeon Dwellers is probably the kingdom I should have tried to join. Their recruitment threads generally checked my boxes.
I retired because there were no kingdoms that refuse to CF kingdoms stronger than themselves. I'm not building one because explaining things is torture to me. I simply can't answer a question without a rhetorical question.
Dungeons Dwellers has a history of rolling over fairly easy imo. I have rarely cf bigger kingdoms. Last age we declared war on a kingdom so much bigger then us they were "out of range" we stomped them only to find out we were denied war win bonus for beating a larger stronger opponent.
I've heard, but I like their banner.
You have the ideal D&D mentality. Characters of differing outlooks can combine forces on occasion: slaying the dragon.
For good characters it's the challenge.
For not so good characters it's all the stuff(dragon horde)
If you're too high level then the dragon isn't a challenge and your comparable wealth makes dragon slaying a ho-hum prospect. At this point you might as well plane travel. Going astral baby!
We had someone in DD and their priv for a whole age.
Worthless lot
They do have a nice theme I will give you that... and it was love of D&D type things that initially caused me to play utopia.
I like this thread. I was such an ass clown when i was 24 years old.
lol i feel like a necrophiliac reading this forum - a bunch of dead nicks talking abt dead kds from a dead game...
BB has farmed me the most crowns. So I pick BB
It’s universally accepted that Sinners is the worst garbage kingdom of all time. Talked so much **** and literally achieved nothing. Rest easy Steel knowing your kingdom was absolute trash on all fronts and constantly the joke of the Utopian world.
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