Every KD that gained acres recently should intra-raze because there was an awar going on ZzZzZ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
I sort of agree with the rest of your points, but those are largely assumptions, not much else.
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Every KD that gained acres recently should intra-raze because there was an awar going on ZzZzZ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
I sort of agree with the rest of your points, but those are largely assumptions, not much else.
This. Cant say I like how some people are looking for angle on how to profit most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
Matja, that is wrong because the top is the one mostly affected by this and certainly the fact that staying neutral has left no targets as rest is at awar, so i cant see why rest should raze, thats far from the point im making..
The point is kds like Simians, wsk, blood brothers has used the awar to hide and avoid being noticed, and while being in awar they manage to grow to unfair acres they wouldnt have otherwise is disgusting.
Looking from the outside and how BB is protecting Simians from being noticed indicates they have most likely been promised all the support they can to crown for joining in.
Blood Brothers joined when BB already won and has grown a lot since without being able to be noticed, as for wsk, they fought some wars and won, i dont care about the WW Bonus but the fact they also gained from this and is now asking for acres to CF is also rather dishonourable and lame considering a punishment should be given without reward to those punishing..
I remember speaking to flogger and the deal was 6 days from the official end of alliance war but by the by. I don't expect to be offered equal terms because that would take roughly 2+ weeks of CJ sitting and doing absolutely nothing after exploring his banks and running his high sci and pumping wpa. The problem CJ has is everyone involved is around him and Pandas is the only kd he can war. If CJ wants to break the deal or re-word it to suit him that's his **** to deal with.
Everybody seems to be hung up on the crown ****. We play for fun. If your in a position you go for it just like CJ has done after saying he was having an inactive age and we were going to war as were the terms in the original cf. Either way we won't be bullied into stuff just because of the impatience of an opponent.
Plus, on the alliance war conditions we asked for time to prep somewhat to which a timeframe to what I felt was fair. Are you saying 6 days isn't a fair deal for a kd who has spent the last 2 weeks sending hits into various kds in the alliance war while you've been pumping away? Nobody said you had to accept hence the negotiations.
No idea in which kd you play, but i 100% agree with ur comments here. Simians shell only entered this awar to get away from crazies and are now using the awar to grow big and pump. Its disgusting how they are using this and its even worse to insult cj from being dishonoust! Bleh .. how to abuse the awar situationQuote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
Simians disbanded.
When i post i only post about last age events and also to make people understand that Simians is disbanded. Had we not disbanded, i would lead or majorly be involved in council/LS and fly our Simian banner and tagg. I would be proud to screw Emeriti and i would also be razing them down in attempt of put them all on 400a until Dorje and the rest had apologized to moi right here in the forums for last age ****play. I would not stick under the chair of why i had joined to **** them. I told ASF eoa that i would be back to screw emeriti. I dont really count my ghetto prov as of being back to screw them, when i screw them up i will do it in last age cJ style but more effective and more often. I have my own agenda, not towards Emeriti or absalom itself but vs a few induvidual players that will get what they deserve from me, not from flogger or any other KD.
Its personal and its about last age, not this one.
Edit: I would likely had warred and crushed cJ before <---- attacking Emeriti also. If i had lead. I would also have whored from the start and never been in this situation.
lol
Just stop using Simians, i dont use Sanctuary for Dorjes KD or Pyro for cJs KD and so forth.
Maybe you should stop being Pansies and Panda up instead of acting like little girls. Maybe you should stop stalling. Maybe you should grow a pair? Maybe you should remove your cranium from your rectum? maybe you should just go stand in the corner and punch yourself in the nutz. We would love to but for some reason rather than serving you 48 hr notice days ago we are allowing you to prep for us so we can have a feyr fight....maybe...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetzy
I want to ask a serious question. Was Crazies supposed to not grow at all, go inactive and wait for pandas to outgrow them while the GB...err AWAR was ongoing? Were we supposed to allow you to bamboozle your way into a stronger position before you would fight us? I just want to be clear on the the logic as to why Pansies are feyr and Just with Absolute Righteousness and Crazies are whining sleezy dirt bags who profiteered from awar.
I mean you guys did everything you could to step over us.
Lol.. Then tell me one thing, why are you have 20% schools on most of your provinces(as per CJ), why do you have close to half a billion stocked on your provinces?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetzy
Also why do you explore up in the middle of this GB?
If you feel you would have had a disadvanage then your council members should have gone to crazies asking them for 1-2 weeks.
This is bull**** now when you do all the above things and then cry wolf!
Also Flogger, is it so bad of you to not play fair and square now? The acres gained in this GB is supposed to be razed off. Why are your allies demanding acres for CF and that to on individual kd terms?
Scheffie, i am monarch of Fluffylicious.
Anri i know its not Simians hence i put "Simians" in my reply above, the fact is you and some of the core plays there so its easier to call you Simians then Panda, but if you wish ill refer to you as Pandas, you and i have never had any bad blood so fair enough, Pandas agenda might not align with your own but in this awar it did and fair enough, but this awar has indeed aided pandas to grow and pump without risk of being noticed seeing cJ didnt join in the awar.
No i dont think a kingdom staying neutral should be punished for growing against other kingdoms not in awar, the fact you chose to join because you were "bored" or whatever reason is your choice and shouldnt affect anyone staying neutral, but to use the awar to dodge and now sitting on huge stock and schools makes little sense if your not using this to unfair advantage, aill ask again though.. Did BB promise you a crown option if you joined in? (honestly asking seeing they seem to protect you a lot, and i find it weird they are demanding you get + days or whatever to prepare).
If the above is true, talk about being hypocrites...
Idk who Judge is but I think I like him. Cheatsy...not so much
Aranfein, just call them Pansies
They certainly dont deserve to be called Pansies.Quote:
Originally Posted by *****up420
My bad. But Wussies doesn't work as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
I didn't mean that seriously (was being sarcastic), obviously nobody is going to intra-raze. BB said they would not go for crown this age and I believe them so I don't see why anyone would have to intra-raze right now. Awar is not officially over yet, Emeriti still need to be put down into ghetto size where they belong with the **** they pull and the way they do diplomacy. Then the crown is fair game and if I were asked it would be a free for all, no CFs, none of those socially constructed limits, let the best KD win, not the one with the most pull.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
Breaking CFs already made, seems an extremely bad idea, whether you were in awar or not, as for Panda's it would still be nice to know if BB promised Panda's to get a shot at crown seeing how they ask for days and does their diplo, which is basically like cornering cJ with "hidden threats" that if he doesnt agree to certain terms then BB will step in to aid Panda's which again is rather hypocritical in regards to how this awar started.
The fact Panda's is now sitting in awar exploring up cows and pumping with schools while being protected by an "awar" tag from being noticed is disgusting.
*****up, i got nothing against Panda's i just find this whole part of the awar lame, because if you join a gangbang in order to teach someone a lesson you should not sit and gain on it, sure you should be given a fair chance once out that mirrors how things would look without a gangbang, the fact is Panda's was far from cJ and then awar happened and now they using it to equal cJ which is giving them much larger chance of winning then they would have was cJ able to notice YR6, with BB then stepping in and "protecting" Panda's gives an extremely bad taste in how it appears Panda's was bought to join for a crown (plz read and said "Appears") which im sure a lot more will be thinking too.
<3 Aranfein
Growth cJ last 2 weeks, 336h.
50376a
Growth Pandas last 2 weeks, 336h.
41323a
How did Pandas gain anything on Crazies?
While Pandas fought in awar Crazies pumped and did what they wanted?
If it had been about winning, awar is not a benefit, its crippling yourself vs a neutral KD and it had been most fair if both KDs warred 1 or 2 weeks ago.
Are not Crazies the KD that feed Pyro gc last age and interfered in many top battles last age in FSU style?
I think the reason behind being neutral is nothing but a way to gain a #1 position and be OP coming to vulture any KDs in range after awar is over.
Most if not all good players will dispute what Crazies talked about. Everyone knows that pumping freely and growing freely is far better then be involved in hostile situations. They did not lose any acres on Pandas. The gap increased, it did not decrease, on top of this TheOne pumped better - more science, more wpa, more gc and was free to hit the rest of the server and explore his pool without any threat at all.
Not true, see previous post of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
@guilty it's not our fault our ghetto is better than yours. Stop crying because your under handedness fell short of regular whorin' an splorin'. Just because you fell short doesn't give you the right to deflect you bs onto us. You tried to sleezeball over us and you failed. End of story
EDIT:Again I ask the serious question. We're we supposed to go inactive and watch you grow over us and then wait to fight you? Cmon be real man. Get a clue
Awar is totally fun so far
It doesnt matter what happened last age, why are you trying to bring in what happened last age in regards to cJ, it appears you wish to gain support in justifing you ****playing cJ now by basically bullying him into accepting terms that he wouldnt otherwise agree to... (oh where did i hear this before??, i do wonder maybe someone else can let me know where i heard this exact same thing).
Fact is you gained from awar to grow cows etc. cJ agreed to a perfectly reasonable deal with Flogger which is more then would/should be given seeing how you are sitting on schools etc. now...
Once again did BB promise Panda's a shot at crown for joining in? (still no answer to this one, which would explain why they are protecting Panda's and doing diplo on your behalves).. Again disgusting if it is.
hmmQuote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
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Originally Posted by flogger
BB is going to have to do some major clean up after this if they don't want to look like a bunch of scumbags. Simply not crowning yourselves isn't enough. You've got an "alliance" so this shouldn't be a problem right?
No point getting rude.Quote:
Originally Posted by *****up420
I am just pointing out that we gained no better position then we had before awar, it got worse.
No one said you were not free to do as you want/like. Grow, explore, random etc.
It was entirely your own choice. Its your KD coming after mine. Not the other way around.
Just not sure what you are complaining over, since you gained power on us, more then you had before awar.
I would like to know which "good players" you are talking about. The fact that panda skirts all my questions and just start arguing how they didn't gain as much during this awar. In the first place, is this awar a form of actioning emeriti or gaining acres? Let me know which war lets their opponent gain 41323a this time of the age. I would like to sign up to be in the war too. It seems like this whole awar becomes kds gaining acres more so then actioning emeriti as you have just posted the evidence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
Are you playing in Crazies?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
I think the reason you have no answer is because a leader needs to read it first and decide how much he wants to tell the public?
I am core, i dont even know that, so i am not sure why you feel the right to know it?
I bring in what cJ did last age because it seems he is on a pedestal right now, being a voice for the people, when he might be one of the worst players in the game when it comes to uto morale. Being responsible for malicious cheating and FSU on a bunch of KDs from what i read and heard.
And the neutral KD gained 50k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heiney
Ofc these gains include pool also. This is the total growth for last 2 weeks.
So again i ask, did Panda really gain on Crazies?
By the looks, Crazies had free pump and Pandas did not close the gap to Crazies at all.
Simply because growing by randoms and free pumping and exploring is always better.
I should not belittle myself with a convo with someone that does not know the benefit of being in pumpmode vs hostile mode.
Again stop deflecting. I am not complaining about anything. I was merely pointing out your failed attempts. So since you answered my 1st question and stated we were free to prepare for possible conflict with you at cf expiry...now I ask...what's the problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
Arafein doesn't play in crazies. He just said he's the monarch of fluffy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
Why is it that actioning emeriti allowed u guys to gain 40ish k acres in 2 weeks? Thats a lot of acres to be gain for the excuse of actioning a kd. Stop shooting yourself.
Thanks for the clarificationsQuote:
Originally Posted by bombdigie
BB hasn't slowed down on the conquests of our remaining TMs, nor slowed down TMs on larger core. Though I imagine that they will slow down soon since war protection kicks in soon, and only then switch to razes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
i didnt want to reply to this thread so fast. but i'll entertain guilty conscious :)
you guys gained unwhorable cow acres + top core acres.. and able to double from a high median.. i didnt check numbers.. but someone posted you gained 42k acres? a quick look at your kd shows you still have a few 'small' provinces.. which means these 52k acres went to your cows+top core. again unwhorable acres... if you could use like 8-9k pool on 5 faeries... and still have your kingdom spread.. it pretty much says where those acres went to.
during this time, my kingdom definitely gained sci+wizzies+core acres. sure. we definitely have our own benefits.
if we had fought in yr6+48hrs, you wont have the cow spread + top core to challenge..
well. this isnt the point tbh.. you join awar, you have your benefits. i decided to stay neutral and my kd have our own benefits. i never said the main issue about what you have 'gained'. the issue is that right now it's pretty much semi-pumping behind 'awar' and my kd cant issue any notice for the past few days. again i'm still willing to do a 6days notice from june 1 yr6, and have talked to cheetzy on IRC about this.
I dont think anyone on this server expected that Crazies would not grow? Nor did anyone expect to gain from awar longterm. Its more then anything resource costly and a slow process.Quote:
Originally Posted by *****up420
Let LS of each KD speak to flogger and close the awar if absalom feel they had enough and want to reach terms?
The war between Pandas and Crazies is bound to happen in time. Right?
congratz on the smokescreen pandas I see flogger is being a great mentor to all those that joined his side. next he will teach you how to use other kds to fight 4 u. Cheers mates.
I dont think being rude when asking a question should be the norm :P
But fair enough Guilty Conscience we can wait for a leader to answer the question, as for you questioning where i play, i answered that before i am Fluffylicious monarch and has no ties to cJ's kd or anyone else for that matter, I play for my kingdom and mine alone, i do hold high ethics and i expect the same of my kingdom mates.
If someone ****plays me i can be harsh/hold grudges (ask CR/zauper) but thats part of the game so i enjoy it, just like i dont mind some kingdoms having grudge on mine, fully expected as you cant make everyone happy.
Again last age and age before when Pyro won, yes cJ did some dodgy stuff but he didnt "cheat" to my knowledge, as and last age cJ wanted to FSU a bit nothing wrong in that, but you pulling up things from last age to justify your own/gain support against cJ is hardly fair... cJ by all accounts here in forum has given more then a fair deal for a war, especially as your sitting pumping with schools and growing cows while "supposedly" being in war (yes awar is war whether it says so on the stance or not), so how is that fair?
To my recollection ive never seen a kingdom at war sit and pump with schools etc.
Ill try again as you said you couldnt answer and i just want to know once a leader comes on, did BB or did they not promise you a shot at crown for joining in? I want to know because as i mentioned above that seems extremely hypocritical if thats the case. (before anyone get their knickers in a twist, im asking im not accusing)
Emeriti allready accepted all the terms demanded by BB, then BB decided they cant win vs crasies and just continues the bullocks
Im glad you are throwing numbers around. If you try .listgrowthHours or check munkbot you can see all statistics. Can compare both of the KDs side by side and get nice graphs to compare us. The awar is not a benefit, its fighting for something you believe in. You choose not to, thats not our problem. You got into a OP position by being neutral and complain? PlsQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOne
52k land, lol.
You for real think we gained 52k land in awar? Crazies fit you.
We would still have been in our chillax ghetto mode if panda didn't use a lame excuse to gain 7k acres of meep. "oh, we saw 1 stray hit, 60 plus razes doesn't mean anything now. Lets just wave for 3.5k acres then ask for another 3.5k acres. They can't do anything about it."Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
You're out of your mind if you think you're entitled to keep the acres you gained from gangbanging a kingdom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
You join an awar for the purpose of the awar, You know that its going to cost you acres and pump time when it ends. Thats y to the people who care the "Crowns" earned during past awar ages view them as lackluster. Basically had the Flogger "alliance" not just been kds that want land safely using GB's CJ or Elit/Godly should have a massive advantage and a free shot at crowning. Instead CJ is being told to "wait" while his advantage of "staying out" gets pissed away by an "alliance" that has already won but wont accept the victory offered. Thus even with their winQuote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience
they setup a new target whose left to fend off 1v6 kds who all sit in the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheetzy
The Awar might have been lost or lost-ish but if it was going to continue on as was obvious by the lack of BB/Flogger being able to accept a surrender the best "position" for emeriti's side was for my kd to have a shot at beating u guys. Thus the razes, PK, and the focus when our other kds were in an un-winnable position. If u cant accept 1 dead prov y would you join in on the awar? If you're actually a PART of the awar and not just a greedy self intrested kd you should be talking to the leader of your alliance saying u want more out of a group "surrender." As i told Stefan there's no reason we'd individually cf as it doesn't stop us from being gangbanged or pulling you/us out of the awar thats not how this works. But then again BB is dodging surrender attempts by Emeriti which involve group cf, so maybe its a good thing because getting those cfs would require BB to raze down their "allies" for not stopping.Quote:
Originally Posted by cRs
Ok. Does this mean you are going to stop posting garbage in circulus in demonstrando or petitio principiQuote:
Originally Posted by Guilty Conscience