the whole kd gets punished for the actions of its leaders. i dont want anyone to quit, i just want the leadership in Spartans to play the game correctly and honorably.
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I read the logs -- I have no angle / agenda in this and I can say it was clearly a dealbreak. Unless there is something else that I wasn't made privvy too there is no excuse for Spartans actions and they should not complain about what is happening to them now (sure there was some BS about the 7th but in my reading it seems pretty clear that was just meant for the hits, at BEST it was a gray area and in such a circumstance it is up to the kingdom that wants to act shady -- ie Spartans, to clarify AT THE TIME).
I'm not Emeriti's biggest fan but if you choose to hit into one of their wars next age with your only excuse being what is happening now don't expect the community to look the other way.
Pandas is only involved because of your war partner, doubt they have any beef with spartans other than objectively agreeing that you broke your EOA CF with divinity. Also NO-ONE wants anyone to quit the game, but if you can't see that Spartans actions are JUST as likely to lead to people quitting then I don't know what to say. The community has LONG been responsible for making sure that people keep their word in their deals. This isn't new and when you so blatantly break a deal you can expect for their to be consequences. That's a good thing.
Agreed. I haven't seen anything that suggests it's actually a fake war though? Unless I'm missing something. It's certainly an arranged war (and very convenient for both sides) but it seems to be real enough from my snatch news. And I don't think anyone has posted anything where anyone agreed to terms like a set WD date or not touching T/Ms.
IMO Eme is justified in continuing to hit Spartans -- although I'd personally like to see divinity weigh in on what they actually want out of this -- not sure that Spartans being farmed through their war really gets them anywhere. However if it's a real war there is no reason for Pandas to keep hitting Fake Spartans (and it should be noted they HAVEN'T hit into the war yet).
Its a fake war by the definition of how fake wars have always been(using the -75% gains to avoid a differnt conflict). Exchanging hits or semi chaining a couple of people so u dont get deleted hardly makes it a real war.
As for what my kd wants ultimately i want spartans to change how they play. If that means they have to be farmed into the war tier so they are "Easy" to handle so be it.
Pandas decided to hit into the war for a bunch of reasons. They hit us 1h prior to the war having gone to 140 meter vs us. All diplomatic attempts was answered by suck our ***** and swallow our ****. Running never really works out.
clear fw, go rape em
Nothing fake about going to war to avoid getting fed on by bigger kds. Yall just need to own your actions and stop pretending to be saints.
If a war tier/ ghetto kd gets a shady diplo deal from kd in the top then they are told "to bad, gotta learn better diplo" but when it happens in reverse we are expected to honour the intent of the deal and should have pointed out dynasties diplo failure in the beginning for them. Then with emarati we get blasted for DB because we dropped a CF after they gave written notice that they were going to break an EOA CF and wave us? the hypocrisy here is astounding and amusing.
I got no problem with yall hitting into our war, but at least be honest with yourselves about what your doing. This is a legit war between two kds that would rather war each other then sit and feed top kds. Yall aint white knights protecting the honour of UTO, just a bunch of hypocrites patting each other on the back while feeding on smaller kds.