Suicide Squad VS FReakstyle

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Originally Posted by StratOcastle

You're excusing your aggression. That's a pretty empty system to support any CFs anyone would have with you.

Oh, you'll get your tops as usual, but your word is worthless to everyone else.

Because nothing happened till you pushed. You pushed because you have backup. You're a fine kingdom, and you might charm the pants off a number of kingdoms, but you're a pure bully in this. There's no way around it.

There's no evidence SS had been unruly in or out of war all age.

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I guess this is directed at me. It is quite the confusing post with little coherence, but I gather from the post that you think I play in or represent FS as the bulk of your post seemed to be about their actions. I play in Ascension and have no history with FS that would cause me to be biased in this matter. I just don't like kingdoms organizing a gb without any solid justifications and that would have potentially put a crown in the hands of SS, the least deserving kingdom.

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Originally Posted by pukusam

lol u all fight so much but don't realise that the ultimate winner will be wsk getting the crown. if im SS, i might consider WD, right after EOACF wsk move in to FS and wave for honour crown. assuming they don't have any form of EOACF with FS.

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That's never gonna happen.. WSK has no balls to compete against Ascension let alone touch FS for honor. I'll bet if wSK were anywhere close to getting rank 1, FS would raze/chain them without blinking an eye.

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Originally Posted by AlphaQUp

I guess this is directed at me. It is quite the confusing post with little coherence, but I gather from the post that you think I play in or represent FS as the bulk of your post seemed to be about their actions. I play in Ascension and have no history with FS that would cause me to be biased in this matter. I just don't like kingdoms organizing a gb without any solid justifications and that would have potentially put a crown in the hands of SS, the least deserving kingdom.

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Least deserving? Just because SS "lost" a war win to you you get to make these kinds of statements? Well SS has finally rid themselves of CJ and terribad crew so dance with them again next age and try not to mince your words then bro.

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Originally Posted by protector

You could also just answer his question :p
If you think the GB is justified, then a GB on ED last age would have been fine as well since they did the same thing.

It's a food chain and whoever isn't strong enough to defend their resource, simply risks losing it to a stronger kingdom. Last age ED was the "bully", this age that's FS. Next age it's ???

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It's culture. The difference between man and animal is civilization. Do you know why I strike back every time a top kingdom randoms my province? Because, game wise, I believe in culture. I don't bend knee to animalistic behavior in Utopia. Civilization is based in mutual respect which leads to the greater good. That's filosofee ;-)

We both exercise our power. The top kingdom goal is simple and relatable. I understand you want my land, but it's mine.
We can live in peace and I never attack a top kingdom unprovoked. Conversely, ask my boss if I ever participated in waving an unworthy opponent unless personally and directly ordered. Even then I reserve the decision to the worthiness of the opponent. I play the game on difficulty.

I respect your goals and I've recommended kingdoms that desire LD to diplo with tops. I don't think less of kingdoms farming, but I don't. Mine is a challenge and it makes the game more interesting. I honestly lose my desire to hit down.

The question isn't about the power; that's obvious. What we have here is a popularity contest. SS has less friends than FS, but I like them just fine.

I like you guys in BB as well and we run into each other here and there. My retaliations are never about being cocky, but embracing the game and friends in competition. I'll never ask quarter. You have a full kingdom to do as you will and I will always choose to fight. I won't stay in a kingdom that won't retaliate the best in the game.

Someone flopped a steamer in the gene pool
Now angry mob mentality's no longer the exception, it's the rule
And I'm starting to feel a lot like Charlton Heston
Stranded on a primate planet
Apes and orangutans that ran it to the ground
With generals and the armies that obeyed them
Followers following fables
Philosophies that enable them to rule without regard

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Originally Posted by AlphaQUp

I guess this is directed at me. It is quite the confusing post with little coherence, but I gather from the post that you think I play in or represent FS as the bulk of your post seemed to be about their actions. I play in Ascension and have no history with FS that would cause me to be biased in this matter. I just don't like kingdoms organizing a gb without any solid justifications and that would have potentially put a crown in the hands of SS, the least deserving kingdom.

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You assume as much as I. Pardon the mix up.

I went on with protector about mutual respect. SS was going to war another kingdom and FS stepped in, aggressively. I'd say the reaction isn't even half of what it should be.

You believe what you chose to believe but I'll go back to the metrics to simply point out that FS is a bully.

Your commentary about the unconditional CF is stark proof that diplo is worthless to the unpopular. It's above the game. You act as if there was complex ideology in the CF that it wouldn't have been broken. We should be able to trust each other without word smithing.

In your war I noticed the FS core relatively intact despite the brilliant play by play in the forum. They take wars they know they will win. I realize that hurts, but you need to see things for what they are.

You warred SS and won. This proves they took wars that were challenging. I know the system and it's just like boxing. You have to take a warm up to get those t/ms in place after a loss. You tell me if you think SS has top kingdoms whispering pump advice in their ear? Did they have pump time unmolested enforced by any but their own hand? If SS had gotten advice don't you think a little birdie might've gotten back to FS? and his name is...

Merry Christmas.

I would say that at present it looks like FS is winning this argument 9-4.

speaking of crowns i never received mine from last age ?
anybody know when they will be shipped ?

there is more crying here than when bishop had the boob taken away( last week)

i'm happy to die while fighting bully kingdom. Im proud to be in SS. World is round. Karma will be there for you.

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Originally Posted by Sheister

I would say that at present it looks like FS is winning this argument 9-4.

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yea no. They may be winning the war because an alliance comprised of some of the biggest kingdoms on the server are making sure of that. They are not winning the argument. If anything it just makes my argument about what's wrong with Utopia today more compelling. Bullying for personal gain without regards to fairness and the spirit of the game. Twisting facts and omitting/adding freely until the story matches the agenda. Offering unreasonable terms under threats just to give the illusion of willingness to negotiate. Stalling whenever possible to achieve set objectives.
Thoroughly planned and executed nicely. Except a lot of people now have seen how it works. It was a little too obvious.
Merry Christmas :) followed very quickly by a Happy New Year! and then comes a New Age! With a lot of people a lot wiser ;) Good Luck to All!

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Originally Posted by lampost

Which part of what I said was crap? I stated clearly enough the outline of your db and waving into a hostile. But you can continue skirting the issue you know about. I'll add some more tips to help jog your memory. About 6/7 weeks into the age.

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i will repeat myself - where is this deal, what were its terms & what terms were broken?

To Alpha, some of my kd mates, and other random people on the good side.

You've tried your best to explain, but some people will still keep throwing ****. I don't spend too much time arguing with such people. Just like previous war threads, I will only address to the logical. If you keep repeating the same thing and keep getting the same response, you are the idiot if you don't change the process.
Any logical content would have been exchanged and presented in the first 3-5 pages. Ffs, 34 pages and still counting. Has any new content been generated? No. Just rehashing and iterating points. Just ignore them. So what if they call you names or throw more ****. Let them be. I'm only commenting now because it really pains me to see my friends keep arguing with these idiots.

[edit] My post will be shot by more people too. So what? Just do your own things and let them get off. It's xmas eve.

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Originally Posted by Meezeus

Least deserving? Just because SS "lost" a war win to you you get to make these kinds of statements? Well SS has finally rid themselves of CJ and terribad crew so dance with them again next age and try not to mince your words then bro.

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I do not think SS deserves the crown either, fwiw.

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

i will repeat myself - where is this deal, what were its terms & what terms were broken?

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I actually agree with you that Iampost should try to show evidence instead of just saying you deal broke.

But here is my problem. If you haven't changed a whole lot very recently I know that you keep pretty tight records. So are you saying you never dealt at all with that kingdom? are you saying you forgot? Or are you saying if he can't show it, it doesn't count?
If you did in fact wave into an active hostile I am fairly certain you know. If there was a deal, I am fairly certain you know.

Had you said there was no deal and no deal break and no hitting into hostile when it first came up, I would have taken your word for it. I can't speak for everyone but like always I give people the benefit of the doubt. It's not so easy now after you deliberately ignored it, then refused an answer and now you act like you don't know.

The reason I am pointing this out is because I don't think you are a bad person. I think you are a good person that got himself into a pickle by trying hard to be a harda$$, a stern, uncompromising person that expects to get his way at all cost.

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Originally Posted by khronosschoty

I do not think SS deserves the crown either, fwiw.

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We don't want it