Evil Dragons...

LOL I dont think debauchary needs to learn any lesson from ED as is evident from this thread and your war.

If you guys really have such a rich history you should know acres mean nothing in wars unless u were planning on losing and going for an acre/nw crown. That should be a lesson for you!

Come on ED/Debauchary it has been almost a full day with posting war summary.

EDIT: And please don't say you were planning on WD because u were up almost 20k acres at one point, that would've been the smart time to surrender and keep the honour. Now your t/ms are crushed and your prince is going to get pwned.

EDIT2: I can see the future and I foresee more of the utopia community trolling ED from now on. All part of your stategic war plan riiiight??

(I dont talk on behalf of my kd, this is just my personal view of your KD)

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Originally Posted by zmasternr1

Good way to start. Call parth a spoilt little brat in public forums. All while the ingame warforum is being fed with the biggest amount of ass kissing I've ever seen after a war. That's why your entire kd come across as false and make us puke when we read it.

Gracious enough to offer us peace? We would be gracious if we accepted your offer. You gained honor this war but lost acres as you are probably more than aware of.

You guys try to use public forums as some sort of medium. Diplomacy you deal with in private. Just a lesson for you.

(I don't talk on behalf on my kd...just my personal view on it).

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I don't talk on behalf of my kd either - posting here was not the best on my part.
however, it was clearly obvious we reached out to make peace and your monarch deleted the thread.
having our peace thread spat on is not a good way to start our new relationship, wouldn't u agree?

your ignorance is quite clear - it's got nothing to do with being gracious. everyone in debauchery had a very enjoyable n challenging war.
yes - then be gracious and accept our peace offering.

EDIT - Parth, apologies for taking it a step further than needed.

Been stupidly busy, might try to write up some stuff but I wouldn't count on it before Saturday.

Let us be clear on one thing, ED lost this war Debauchery didn't win it. We made some probably moronic choices based on ignorance towards retarded game mechanics of deep chaining instead of destroying their T/M threat early on, if we'd hit them down early then it would have been over.

Our setup is also trash vs. higher T/M numbers, our hybrids out grew their ratios early and were useless, there's many other things but am not going go into KD matters or throw out "excuses" on the forums.

We f'ed up, it's embarrassing, I'm glad we've learned lessons this age rather than when we're trying to crown. Stop with all the ass kissing as well, it's more pathetic than our withdrawal, you must think we're idiots if you believe it comes across as sincere.

Freedelivery probably had a moment of frustration and as you can see its already deleted.

But let's be honest here, every one of us have refrained very hard to not give you guys a piece of our real mind. The 11 eow posts in war forums were sincere good war, good luck, and goodbyes. But no you had to delete it cuz it made you wanna puke. I think we have tried to be as diplomatic as mother Teresa in this matter.

ps. Note you guys started this thread and started calling us out. Half the ppl in my kd doesnt even have accounts here and usually I only use it to ask noob questions lol

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Originally Posted by silverfox

Let us be clear on one thing, ED lost this war Debauchery didn't win it.

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I'm not sure who you are insulting more with that comment..

I noticed a trend. Kingdom who did a withdraw always claim they didn't lose. They gained acres. And in that perspective, they won- Agree?

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Originally Posted by Feint

I noticed a trend. Kingdom who did a withdraw always claim they didn't lose. They gained acres. And in that perspective, they won- Agree?

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can provide us full war summary?

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Originally Posted by twinkle

can provide us full war summary?

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I can post it when i get back from work.
Taken from memory it was around 1288-980 attacks (ed-deb)
Net change +7800a

'Hostile' Period (Was 4 days of ED attacking Deb with no retal, no ops.)

** Kingdom news report **
For the time from May 19 of YR5 till March 9 of YR6 - 111 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 27 (794 acres)
-- Traditional march: 7 (731 acres)
-- Conquest: 1 (63 acres)
-- Plunder: 13
-- Learn: 5
-- Failed: 1 (3.7% failure)
-- Uniques: 22
Total attacks suffered: 225 (2,899 acres)
-- Traditional march: 26 (2,899 acres)
-- Raze: 137 (2,129 acres)
-- Massacre: 24 (29,383 population)
-- Plunder: 20
-- Learn: 16
-- Failed: 2 (0.9% failure)
-- Uniques: 147

** The kingdom of Debauchery **
Total land exchanged: -2,105 (27/225)
+150 Lactating Latino (2 [1]/1)
+113 Fatal Discrepancy (4 [3]/0)
+80 Udder Insanity (1 [1]/1)
+56 ImSoMetaEvenThisAcronym (1 [1]/6)
- Popolopodopolis (5 [5]/1)
- backyard (4 [4]/2)
- im no superman (0/12)
- knock knock (0/4)
- Crematoria (0/3)
- Sophies Wrath (0/2)
- another kingdom with flyers (0/2)
- The Color of Magic (0/1)
- Scaramouche (0/1)
- An unknown province (1/0)
-31 GG No Re (0/7)
-59 La Dolce Vita (0/4)
-185 Rosetta Stoned (0/13)
-297 Deceptive Doctor (4 [3]/2)
-720 Scrub Guy (5 [4]/5)
-857 Unemployed Hobo (0/5)
-2,484 SwordArtOnline (0/153)


** The kingdom of Evil Dragons **
Total land exchanged: +2,527 (220/1)
+838 Love Is In The Air (15 [7]/0)
+587 Love is snugtackles (15 [6]/0)
+536 Love is Food (8 [6]/0)
+464 Galvanised Lovelorn Fools (11 [6]/0)
+319 Love is TaeYeon (6 [4]/0)
+175 Love is Swallowing (12 [9]/0)
+172 Love is Grand (17 [10]/0)
+152 Love is a Fist (12 [9]/0)
+150 Loved grains (12 [6]/0)
+140 Love is DEVOURING CANDY (20 [13]/0)
+136 Love is Seoul (10 [6]/0)
+129 Love Is A Nightmare (12 [8]/0)
+129 Love sand rig (11 [6]/0)
+124 Love is one night in Paris (2 [2]/0)
+112 Love is tied up in my basement (9 [6]/0)
+100 Love is a many splendored thng (7 [6]/0)
+93 Love Is Sharing Candy (7 [4]/0)
+72 Love is Sweet (9 [9]/0)
+60 Love is Supreme (6 [5]/0)
+58 Love is evoL (4 [4]/0)
+45 Love is Make me a Sammich (5 [4]/0)
+35 Love Is Only Temporary (5 [4]/0)
+30 Love Is Snoeps On Top (6 [4]/0)


March 5 of YR6 Alas, the once proud province of SwordArtOnline has collapsed and lies in ruins.

WAR

** Kingdom news report **
For the time from March 10 of YR6 till May 10 of YR7 - 217 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 897 (72,018 acres)
-- Traditional march: 804 (68,586 acres)
-- Ambush: 16 (1,113 acres)
-- Conquest: 42 (2,319 acres)
-- Learn: 22
-- Failed: 13 (1.4% failure)
-- Uniques: 309
Total attacks suffered: 1,280 (78,340 acres)
-- Traditional march: 1,206 (76,566 acres)
-- Ambush: 26 (1,774 acres)
-- Raze: 17 (711 acres)
-- Massacre: 4 (5,390 population)
-- Learn: 3
-- Failed: 24 (1.9% failure)
-- Uniques: 368

** The kingdom of Debauchery **
Total land exchanged: -6,322 (897/1280)
+1,288 Fatal Discrepancy (56 [21]/14)
+1,004 CATERPILLARS DREAM (54 [19]/47)
+983 Sophies Wrath (43 [23]/26)
+763 The DUDE (13 [8]/2)
+186 knock knock (53 [20]/89)
+121 BUBBING SCRUBBLES (2 [2]/1)
+119 An unknown province (1/0)
+91 StarBurst Stream (12 [12]/5)
+35 Insomnia (38 [12]/17)
-102 Crematoria (4 [4]/1)
-119 La Dolce Vita (3 [1]/5)
-170 Popolopodopolis (60 [18]/76)
-174 GG No Re (61 [17]/58)
-253 Scaramouche (0/1)
-445 Rosetta Stoned (0/3)
-449 Udder Insanity (60 [18]/87)
-451 Lactating Latino (68 [19]/72)
-481 im no superman (0/9)
-647 backyard (53 [22]/83)
-653 The Color of Magic (58 [18]/113)
-1,245 Django Freeman (1 [1]/12)
-1,410 Unemployed Hobo (66 [18]/132)
-1,531 ImSoMetaEvenThisAcronym (57 [19]/107)
-1,664 Scrub Guy (67 [19]/149)
-1,829 Deceptive Doctor (67 [18]/171)


** The kingdom of Evil Dragons **
Total land exchanged: +6,322 (1280/897)
+3,604 Love is Grand (81 [23]/1)
+2,674 Love is a Fist (60 [18]/8)
+2,460 Love is one night in Paris (54 [16]/2)
+1,638 Love Is Only Temporary (15 [9]/0)
+1,319 Galvanised Lovelorn Fools (22 [9]/0)
+1,199 Love sand rig (37 [17]/10)
+1,004 Loved grains (43 [16]/11)
+914 Love is Food (34 [16]/5)
+788 Love is evoL (44 [11]/4)
+688 Love is the gift of war (65 [13]/12)
+460 Love is TaeYeon (18 [10]/0)
+399 Love Is A Nightmare (62 [15]/50)
+124 Love is Make me a Sammich (72 [19]/48)
-1 Love is a many splendored thng (75 [16]/67)
-36 Love is Sweet (72 [19]/92)
-235 Love is Swallowing (68 [18]/88)
-326 Love is DEVOURING CANDY (5 [2]/15)
-368 Love Is Snoeps On Top (80 [18]/87)
-531 Love Is In The Air (75 [16]/73)
-594 Love is Supreme (60 [18]/42)
-782 Love is Seoul (66 [17]/47)
-836 Love is tied up in my basement (62 [16]/50)
-1,119 Love Is Sharing Candy (52 [14]/51)
-1,446 Love is just a feeling (0/10)
-1,922 Love is snugtackles (52 [17]/110)
-2,042 Love Sir Dang (6 [5]/14)

Dragons sent to Evil Dragons
On March 10 of YR6, April 19 of YR6, May 20 of YR6, January 20 of YR7

Dragons received by Evil Dragons
Sapphire on March 10 of YR6, April 17 of YR6
Ruby on June 19 of YR6

March 10 of YR6 - War declared on Evil Dragons
May 9 of YR7 - Evil Dragons withdrew from war

Acre exchange doesn't really tell you much about the war.

acre exchange doesn't really tell? i thought ED being chained so hard.. :P so i guess utopia nowadays, +land gain is not a warwin? meh.. It reminds my kd few age ago, with +land gain, but we decided to withdraw after they refuse to surrender. HF & GL both kd.

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Originally Posted by twinkle

so i guess utopia nowadays, +land gain is not a warwin?

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No. Winning the war is a war win. If you didn't win the war, then you lost. There's really no shame in losing (especially if you gained acres/honor) until you try to claim that it didn't happen.

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Originally Posted by Palem

No. Winning the war is a war win. If you didn't win the war, then you lost. There's really no shame in losing (especially if you gained acres/honor) until you try to claim that it didn't happen.

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Agreed with you, win is a win. But I would take my hat off to ED leadership for their brave action to surrender to debauchery, considering ED is the one challenging debauchery to war with them for their last age grudes?.

Not much KD willing to surrender after they already posted like ED players in forum here and with such large land gain and total attacks in war. Although they can play dirty to turn around, but seem ED didn’t do so. So someone in ED must veto’ed the decision to surrender ;)

Well, good luck in both KD. It is always good to see old KD back kicking :) have fun guys.

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Originally Posted by twinkle

agreed with you, win is a win. But i would take my hat off to ed leadership for their brave action to surrender to debauchery, considering ed is the one challenging debauchery to war with them for their last age grudes?.

Not much kd willing to surrender after they already posted like ed players in forum here and with such large land gain and total attacks in war. Although they can play dirty to turn around, but seem ed didn?t do so. So someone in ed must veto?ed the decision to surrender ;)

well, good luck in both kd. It is always good to see old kd back kicking :) have fun guys.

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raze kill ftw!

So, since ED is against lame tactics with regards to war, should people now raze ED for lamely withdrawing up acres?

just asking............

Withdrawding up acres is a lame tactic?