CR vs AMA

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Originally Posted by guard14n

Dude either you have the IQ of an ameba or u are a victum of an incest. You see nothing wrong with ur post? rly? No dealbreaking, no bullying form Havoc side, no threatening? Or is it ok to notice a notice and say u gonna 2v1 no matter what the other kd will do. See a doctor, delete acc, sue ur folks or something. o.0

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I don't know if a forum thread would count as a notice of a notice. Could anyone make a thread and would that make it one? I don't know your position in AMA guard14n, but for arguments sake, let's say you are a new player to AMA. Could you make a thread titled AMA vs BB and thus that is a notice?

Or what if one kingdom comes to ask another kingdom about a CF extension before their CF ends and that kingdom refuses. Is that a notice of a notice? Are they therefore deal breaking?

As for 2vs1 situations, AMA's actions and words seem to say 2vs1 is clearly acceptable. Pew Pew vs Strippers in Age 58 if you don't remember. There were also a number of posts from Elit saying the same thing during the ED vs Fratzia thing.

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Originally Posted by Runefire

I don't know if a forum thread would count as a notice of a notice. Could anyone make a thread and would that make it one? I don't know your position in AMA guard14n, but for arguments sake, let's say you are a new player to AMA. Could you make a thread titled AMA vs BB and thus that is a notice?

Or what if one kingdom comes to ask another kingdom about a CF extension before their CF ends and that kingdom refuses. Is that a notice of a notice? Are they therefore deal breaking?

As for 2vs1 situations, AMA's actions and words seem to say 2vs1 is clearly acceptable. Pew Pew vs Strippers in Age 58 if you don't remember. There were also a number of posts from Elit saying the same thing during the ED vs Fratzia thing.

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Aint feeding the trolls mate. keep yapping ur BS :)

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Originally Posted by PhoenixScorpion

I did not ignore most of your post, simply feel it has been beat to death and no use beating a dead horse. How can you not see that if you had instead came to us and asked for support and some kind input instead of escalating the situation. Instead only Pyro was approached because like I said it wasnt about fair play really or even addressing CR it was about you being prideful and expecting to gloat after beating Pyro then Havoc. Instead one of your other ppl you have ****played came back and served you up some of your revenge you seem to enjoy so much. This time like every Age since I have been back AMA once again has pissed off so many KDs that even when they arent working together they rather each other win than you. Simians was even supporting you up until you did this. You have basically made sure it is impossible for any KD to trust any deal you make. If you honestly believe that you deal-breaking Havoc does not impact Pyro you are just being silly.

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I dont know where you get this that AMA arrogantly expected to beat everyone and win. We were warring this age and we did want to war everyone and do our best, I speak for myself when saying this but no I do not expect to beat a kingdom that has been pumping extreme sci on low draft and farming ghettos, and taxing kingdoms all age that when we finally fight they will be 20k larger from tax on Simians while we will have just finished a war with another kingdom or be 2v1ed by them....

You again miss the point that what AMA is doing is REACTIONARY to ****play from other kingdoms. " This time like every Age since I have been back AMA once again has pissed off so many KDs that even when they arent working together they rather each other win than you." This statement is just misguided considering AMA is fighting back against ****play rather than STARTING the ****play. Did AMA start the 2v1 from Havoc/Sanc? No. Did AMA start GB from multiple kingdoms in the EOA gb against them? No. Did AMA start the ghetto eoa razes last age form kingdoms we never toughed? No. Did we do something wrong to Havoc for making them want to 2v1 us AGAIN this age and deal break? NO. If anything they should be motivated to play clean because after they 2v1ed AMA , AMA played them 1v1 the following age.

And yes I honestly believe that hitting Havoc has *NO* impact on Pyro. Why? Because Havoc 2v1ed AMA in past and threatened to do it again this age and has track record of ****playing us. We have normal/neutral relations with Pyro who has never done anything to us before and even gave them CF to fight simians instead of trying to vulture them. This I really dont understand because any time in past one kingdom has ****played another, no one ever has said "Well if they ****played kd X, they will **** play us all so lets GB them." This has NEVER happened and in an early post when I referenced countless instances of **** play which were NOT actioned by the community.

The only motivation here for trying to interfere in our punishment right now is desire to secure an easy crown but it is easy to see that anyone on the *outside* of this conflict can freely crown by just growing and exploring.

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Originally Posted by guard14n

Aint feeding the trolls mate. keep yapping ur BS :)

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Not BS my friend. There are forum threads that prove it :)

You have interfered in wars. You lost the fair play argument long ago.

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Originally Posted by Humanoize

I am in Pyro this age and we were in a simular situation as your kingdom. We also had no chance of winning the age, even if somehow we would win our war vs your kingdom. But if cJ and Nesta would have pulled a simular move, I d immediatly abandon my account, because I dont want to win this way.

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Dont worry, you wont be the only 1 abandoning your province if that happens :D we have several players who wont stand up for such actions.

with that said, I dont think anyone in pyros is currently unhappy with what pros leadership have done this age so far

-cJ

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Originally Posted by Proteus

I dont know where you get this that AMA arrogantly expected to beat everyone and win. We were warring this age and we did want to war everyone and do our best, I speak for myself when saying this but no I do not expect to beat a kingdom that has been pumping extreme sci on low draft and farming ghettos, and taxing kingdoms all age that when we finally fight they will be 20k larger from tax on Simians while we will have just finished a war with another kingdom or be 2v1ed by them....

You again miss the point that what AMA is doing is REACTIONARY to ****play from other kingdoms. " This time like every Age since I have been back AMA once again has pissed off so many KDs that even when they arent working together they rather each other win than you." This statement is just misguided considering AMA is fighting back against ****play rather than STARTING the ****play. Did AMA start the 2v1 from Havoc/Sanc? No. Did AMA start GB from multiple kingdoms in the EOA gb against them? No. Did AMA start the ghetto eoa razes last age form kingdoms we never toughed? No. Did we do something wrong to Havoc for making them want to 2v1 us AGAIN this age and deal break? NO. If anything they should be motivated to play clean because after they 2v1ed AMA , AMA played them 1v1 the following age.

And yes I honestly believe that hitting Havoc has *NO* impact on Pyro. Why? Because Havoc 2v1ed AMA in past and threatened to do it again this age and has track record of ****playing us. We have normal/neutral relations with Pyro who has never done anything to us before and even gave them CF to fight simians instead of trying to vulture them. This I really dont understand because any time in past one kingdom has ****played another, no one ever has said "Well if they ****played kd X, they will **** play us all so lets GB them." This has NEVER happened and in an early post when I referenced countless instances of **** play which were NOT actioned by the community.

The only motivation here for trying to interfere in our punishment right now is desire to secure an easy crown but it is easy to see that anyone on the *outside* of this conflict can freely crown by just growing and exploring.

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two wrong doesn't make it right. you are taking down your best competitor to win crown by whatever reason you are trying to spin off. unless AMA is taking themselves out of the crown race then pretty much your justification are ****.

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Originally Posted by Dumdidam

two wrong doesn't make it right. you are taking down your best competitor to win crown by whatever reason you are trying to spin off. unless AMA is taking themselves out of the crown race then pretty much your justification are ****.

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So in your logic if someone does you wrong u dont react cuz it will be wrong to do so. If you are playing the turn the other cheek game this is definitly not your game.

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Originally Posted by guard14n

So in your logic if someone does you wrong u dont react cuz it will be wrong to do so. If you are playing the turn the other cheek game this is definitly not your game.

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you can choose to ****play but that proves even AMA cannot crown without ****playing. spinning or justifying your action will never make you in 'right' position if eventually you want to crown.

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Originally Posted by Dumdidam

you can choose to ****play but that proves even AMA cannot crown without ****playing. spinning or justifying your action will never make you in 'right' position if eventually you want to crown.

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Thats the thing mate we dont care about crowning, we just want to set an example - if u play us over we gonna bite u. Havoc deserve what they got and considering the spite i think this hostile will be till eoa. With this said i think its pretty obvious that we are out of the crown race unless u think that after we war havoc they will just cf us and move on :D This is eoa war so pyro/rage or whoever goes for crown can just outgrow us with ease. Havoc already started to raze us, we raze them as well. Noone will win in this confrontation and we know that. We accept it. Why cant you?

I hope Pyro win this age tbh. All they have to do is random a bit and use expl pool. In few days they will be bigger than us anyway.

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Originally Posted by Dumdidam

two wrong doesn't make it right. you are taking down your best competitor to win crown by whatever reason you are trying to spin off. unless AMA is taking themselves out of the crown race then pretty much your justification are ****.

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have to disagree.. it was not to win a crown but to try to prevent a dishonorable action by a dishonorable kd.. somewhat similar to when zauper tried to save peppie from HaLL. except ama was able to do it all by themselves. anyone who can't admire that can't be true to themselves...

Had CR/Havoc not deal break and threaten, taunt and antagonize ama with the very real threat of 2 on 1 if ama was to war pyro. none of this would have happened... CR would have probably won the crown and escaped the criticism of the despicable act of **** playing the entire server.. But thankfully munk deal broke by created this nasty tread to once again miss treat and antagonize honorable Utopians. it backfired for one reason CR/Havoc does not represent ethical fair play nor top play in this game any longer.. the mask has been removed and CR/Havoc true colors have been shown for all to see..

still now you have CR/Havoc and now dirty rage/pyro/pew/simians threatening ama with GB.. none could beat ama in fair wars so they resort to killing ama anyway they can.. very sad for Utopia as the real enemy to fair play and majority of despicable acts toward Utopians has always come from rage(after asf) and pyro.. now CR and zauper and as well..

I don't see it about crown.. I see it as a dishonorable rogue kd got what they deserved..

As someone with 0 dog in this fight, but not appreciating the BS, all I can say is hmmmmmmm if CR declares.....and the AMA chains are nice and open, I wonder how many books I get on an OOW learn............

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Originally Posted by guard14n

Thats the thing mate we dont care about crowning, we just want to set an example - if u play us over we gonna bite u. Havoc deserve what they got and considering the spite i think this hostile will be till eoa. With this said i think its pretty obvious that we are out of the crown race unless u think that after we war havoc they will just cf us and move on :D This is eoa war so pyro/rage or whoever goes for crown can just outgrow us with ease. Havoc already started to raze us, we raze them as well. Noone will win in this confrontation and we know that. We accept it. Why cant you?

I hope Pyro win this age tbh. All they have to do is random a bit and use expl pool. In few days they will be bigger than us anyway.

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my point is all the justification posted by AMA will only entitle them sympathy for their action but not 'right'. if AMA still go for the crown then AMA is still **** playing to crown.

Dumdidam's post is screaming for a Philosorator meme..........

CR taunted AMA to fight them 1st....CR being 30k acres bigger....AMA doesnt like that fight.....and wanted to go for Pyro....AMA putting themselves in a sandwich here.
Surely Pyro wanted to fight afterwards with AMA i guess....either take that conflict with CR or give some free acres and make a deal....and move on to Pyro?

Why should CR back off when they where in a good position to strike AMA...why flea to Pyro because you guys had a better chance against them at that time?

But than the desperate act occurs from AMA hey lets pump and wave CR with pants down screw that ceasefire date...that will show em.

Yea truly fair actions by a so called honorable kd....AMA simply broke a ceasefire deal that was still in place just for the hunger of the land crown wich they werent able
to get in the last 3 ages....Now i understand kd's like Pew Pew,Simians even more.

Its not upto AMA on how things should be played in this game....but upto the rest of the utopian community....Always has been and Always will be.


Oh and BTW Crunch didnt Rage honored a deal last age after their war vs Pew Pew where they gained good acres by not competing for Landcrown and
werent allowed to grow above a certain amount of acres or they would be hitted by BB and AMA?

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Originally Posted by Tazzie

CR taunted AMA to fight them 1st....CR being 30k acres bigger....AMA doesnt like that fight.....and wanted to go for Pyro....AMA putting themselves in a sandwich here.
Surely Pyro wanted to fight afterwards with AMA i guess....either take that conflict with CR or give some free acres and make a deal....and move on to Pyro?

Why should CR back off when they where in a good position to strike AMA...why flea to Pyro because you guys had a better chance against them at that time?

But than the desperate act occurs from AMA hey lets pump and wave CR with pants down screw that ceasefire date...that will show em.

Yea truly fair actions by a so called honorable kd....AMA simply broke a ceasefire deal that was still in place just for the hunger of the land crown wich they werent able
to get in the last 3 ages....Now i understand kd's like Pew Pew,Simians even more.

Its not upto AMA on how things should be played in this game....but upto the rest of the utopian community....Always has been and Always will be.


Oh and BTW Crunch didnt Rage honored a deal last age after their war vs Pew Pew where they gained good acres by not competing for Landcrown and
werent allowed to grow above a certain amount of acres or they would be hitted by BB and AMA?

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ama to war pyro 1 on 1 was set up before CR began to impose their will on ama and threaten with 2 on 1

by Utopian community it seems you really mean your kd fake rage and the despicable crue you have put together you want to call an alliance.. the real Utopian community is some 200 plus ghettos that despise your **** play and can see your true colors..

your garbage kd along with simians and others have been chattering all age how you were going to destroy ama...

ama took down you and pew in war i believe you both were larger.. your kd has shown time and time again complete disrespect to others and it is your kd that always tries to push your weight around... and it is your kd fake rage who always wants to dictate fair play when you and your kd have no concept of what that means..

oh and you only honored the deal because you were too weak to do anything else. you could have grown and you could have war but you didn't because we all know what that outcome would have been..