What he said ! :)
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Anti-abs is harder to measure because they do not tag. I have been part of different "anti-abs" alliances. Although earlyier in game they were more like crowning groups. So say 3-4 KD's would arrange blocking / possibly even gbing in order to assist each other in navigating absalom. It is a loose alliance with the goals of disrupting each other. We were often dirtier then current abs, but we also would backstab each other so trust was thin. Heretics waving Bruteforce was a good example of a backstab between pre age napped allies. We had private alliance chans and what not, but we mostly played poker in them.
In cov we were super dirty, but I think everyone knew that. Issue was our KD's were 1:1 quite a bit weaker then abs. Rage beating 3 in a row with outside hits being a good example.
Early this age simians said they warred us to block for AMA. They also stated that they were allied with AMA. So I would assume that there is some kind of loose alliance. Pew was also mentioned as being in it, but it was also said that the effort to delay/beat abs was given up early / possibly even pre-age. So who knows.
Anyway my point is when referring to anti abs I think of kingdoms who have a group of pre age naps working together to crown for one of there members.
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OK elit, Dorje contacted you and told you how since you were both noticed by other kingdoms and neitehr would benefit from fighting and said they'd probably have cf'd you during post-war had you asked (and they did previously say several times they were open to cf's but you always demanded huge amounts of acres along with other over the top conditions.)
You reply saying that you won't cf until you get war or a new extended cf with havoc. Later you talked with Havoc and they offered to reinstate notice if you cf'd sanc. You then decided that also wasn't good enough and you also wanted 30k acres from sanc in addition to the havoc cf.
I think Foam has had enough of you Elit.
FYI A Mothers Advice (Age 57) has no connection with the original A Mothers Advice (Age 10-14).
8 pages in 24 hours, no thx.
someone provide cliffs/summary plz.
in summary: WHAAAAAAA, WHAAAAA,WHAA, WHAA, WHAA, WHAAAAAAAA
Np.
This thread pretty much summarizes the recent history of Abs and anti-abs if you think about it.
Abs does some things which are pretty scummy, but not really terrible. Anti-abs fanboys jump on, cry their little eyes out, calls them bullies, while actually not doing a thing about it, and abs reps come on and play damage control to avoid the situation snowballing into a ****storm.
6/10
I could misconstrue putting words in my mouth as trolling, but I'm not one to fly off the handle either.
Are you mean other non abs kds talk but do noting for this lame move from abs or its about us :P
You are messing it all. Last time we talked with Dorje was me contact him and its after they start retal our hits and make ops. Its clear i cant CF him when he is doing huge dmg to us and he is not in position to war us. Its all done on propose for slow us against havoc. Only resonable way for CF him was include reset notice with havoc so we can get time to prepare, not being instant waved after we cf.
Stop dodge facts. You double hostile AMA because you cant win 1vs1. Classic ABS move.