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Originally Posted by Runefire

I guess if you say it enough it will eventually come true.

I want the Swedish International Volleyball team at my house. I want the Swedish International Volleyball team at my house. I want the Swedish International Volleyball team at my house. I want the Swedish International Volleyball team at my house. I want the Swedish International Volleyball team at my house.

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Glad you agreed that those were Fake Wars.

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Originally Posted by ABSLover

Glad you agreed that those were Fake Wars.

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Not really. No volleyball team yet :(

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Originally Posted by Runefire

Not really. No volleyball team yet :(

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Maybe you should be thankfull for that seeing how you didnt specify if you wanted the female team..

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Originally Posted by crease

Youd think that ED and PEWPEW would know best of all. That being said, nobody outside has proof it was a FW you are just assuming like the rest of us. If there were catagorical proof theyd both be deleted

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Yes they would probably know that best of all involved, but they also have a vested interest in lying about it and denying it. So what they might know would obviously be different from what they'd claim in public.

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Originally Posted by ciupi

crease stop talking like there is a God in utopia. U don't know that even in RL but u act like there is one in the game lol. Bishop and the system generally has flaws ofc, flaws that can beused by players...the problem is the way the flaws are used are not always honorable and therefor consequnces must be taken in consideration. I am not/and i never said that hitting into a war was legit or honorable...i just said that if some1 took advantage of the system repeably and never got any punishment it ain't fair...and by that i am not saying that Fratzia is the "police" here...we accept any consequences to our actions now, we just don't like to be ****played and especially when this happened not once, but 3x (cause even if the 2x times wasn't us in direct conflict it affects all the top play).

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I never condemned your actions or said Bishop/admins were not wrong. I believe these were FW's as much as the next guy but only PEW2 and ED know for sure.
I was merely trying to point out unbiased flaws in recent posts. Theres no need to take **** so personal when there wasnt even an attack on your kd or anything posted that wasn't true.

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Originally Posted by Elldallan

Yes they would probably know that best of all involved, but they also have a vested interest in lying about it and denying it. So what they might know would obviously be different from what they'd claim in public.

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NSS.

(My views are my own, and do not represent any of the ghettowees in question in this thread)

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Originally Posted by Elldallan

Yes they would probably know that best of all involved, but they also have a vested interest in lying about it and denying it. So what they might know would obviously be different from what they'd claim in public.

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I really don't see what's so hard to grasp about it to be honest, I don't know the exact wording or discussions which went on but it'd probably be along the lines of:

- Kingdom sees a threat.
- Kingdom looks at options available.
- Kingdom sees that they can war another KD which offers much less threat to their assets (ie banks) while they'll probably lose land on a core fight.
- Kingdom asks for war, other KD agrees for their own reasons.
- 3rd party loses out on acres so goes on to cry about how this is a fake war.

ED and PewPew aren't allies so it's not like an alliance sharing wars to protect their KDs, also the actions taken are identical to what almost every other KD on the server does when they put in their KD name as "message for war", someone sends a msg and a war is arranged. So suddenly are all of these KDs now in fake wars?

There wasn't any agreement (afaik) between ED and PewPew about not hitting certain provs in war, they were real wars which as a bi-product had additional benefits. It's utterly ridiculous the amount of red tape people are trying to throw around at the top to justify their gameplay:

- You can't war people if it has any additional benefits.
- You can't war people if you've been given notice.
- You can't war people if someone else might want to war you.
- You can't war people if it means other top KDs might lose out.

It's a load of bull****, the short story is: AMA is pissed that they had to fight ED instead of PewPew which they chose to do, they're even more pissed that ED didn't sit around twiddling their thumbs waiting for AMA to hostile them and instead went and warred another KD. Fratzia are pissed for the same reason, that they trained up and then didn't have a KD to hit. Both KDs have self entitled asshats who feel they're owed something by a random KD when they're not.

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Originally Posted by silverfox

It's a load of bull****, the short story is: AMA is pissed that they had to fight ED instead of PewPew which they chose to do, they're even more pissed that ED didn't sit around twiddling their thumbs waiting for AMA to hostile them and instead went and warred another KD. Fratzia are pissed for the same reason, that they trained up and then didn't have a KD to hit. Both KDs have self entitled asshats who feel they're owed something by a random KD when they're not.

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AMA is pissed because ED Power played us bad. They block AMA from finish his relation with Pew Pew. They had still dragon project vs us after 9 days war. Not min time war its was 9 days !!! ED pretend half age to be so friendly to us but decide to vulture AMA and put us in situation where we can end 2vs1. This is not MORAL but ED did it. What did AMA is to post in forum but we DIDN'T hit ED or Pew Pew in his wars. In-game action and forum are separate. Stick to facts.

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Originally Posted by ABSLover

Glad you agreed that those were Fake Wars.

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Why don't you report if you insist so much it is a fake war and get Bishop to delete ED and PEW2? Case closed. I am really sick of you whining like an old hag .

i wanna see what the consensus is on the topic of who was more lame.

Feel free to vote below.

http://strawpoll.me/728241

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Originally Posted by Elit

AMA is pissed because ED Power played us bad. They block AMA from finish his relation with Pew Pew. They had still dragon project vs us after 9 days war. Not min time war its was 9 days !!! ED pretend half age to be so friendly to us but decide to vulture AMA and put us in situation where we can end 2vs1. This is not MORAL but ED did it. What did AMA is to post in forum but we DIDN'T hit ED or Pew Pew in his wars. In-game action and forum are separate. Stick to facts.

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PewPew having a dragon on you means nothing, who the hell cares about a dragon which was left over from a war? Why do you even mention crap like that, are you trying to say that you should be immune from being hit with no relations just because of that?

ED did nothing wrong in their actions against AMA, yes AMA might have been in bad shape but so what? What difference is there between that and any KD noticing another KD when they're more pumped or in a better position? Are you going to start trying to makeup rules about how strong a position a KD is allowed to be in before you can be noticed? What if you'd been in war for 3 days, is that better, what's the magic number of days you're allowed to be in war before it becomes a vulture or what is the relative KD NWA allowed to be at? You realise how stupid it is trying to throw constraints around what is and isn't possible?

Simple fact is AMA was in a position to be hit by ED, if you didn't want it then you should have looked at ways to avoid it. You don't get to decide to war ED then play the martyr like you had no other options. ED didn't dealbreak, didn't do OOW hits, didn't 2v1, all they did is try to take advantage of AMA being in a bad position at the time which is what every single top KD does when they notice someone...

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Originally Posted by leech

Why don't you report if you insist so much it is a fake war and get Bishop to delete ED and PEW2? Case closed. I am really sick of you whining like an old hag .

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It seems you agree with me too.

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silverfox, So what is your problem now? You look for run from Fratzia, its not against deal or game rules, they hit you its not against deal or game rules.
Its lame for them hit you? Sure its lame. Its lame from you run like this? Its not just lame its very stupid. If you want to run do it proper so you wont put kd in any risk for get waved oow. Its your kd choice play on high risk.
Did this worked well for ED? I don't think. Next time run proper or don't run.

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we DIDN'T hit ED or Pew Pew in his wars.

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Forgot the hits on ED's bank?

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Originally Posted by Elit

I don't think.

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