221% be

This Vlahul guy is funny. I think there's 7-8 ex AMA players in Cello's Republic. When AMA existed we were the best warring kingdom in the whoring tier. We pawned many of these warring kingdoms in our warring ages tagged as as Polar Bears. We also put up some of the biggest upsets warring at disadvantages like against PewPew etc.

I think there were a few kingdoms that were close seconds like BB, And CR. To not respect or take any of those kingdoms seriously would definitely result in a good spanking; even Yolo (old BB) you'd be inbred stupid to take it as an easy win to war them even as a z"ghetto" as protector calls themselves. I'm pretty sure that players in all of those kingdoms know how to war and whore.

Let's talk ghetto wars which Vahuls talking about. They are no different, no top honor kingdom wars when they are unprepared. The difference is that top kingdoms tend to be better prepared, so I only have one thing to say to you.. Bring It On, talk is cheap.

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Yes, that is very correct, although i would not call him "dirty" and such.

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But you do you can't respect him and thinks he's good at the same time calling him a cheater and abuses his power. It's contradicting

I am not saying it. Cromulent's players told me.


They are old players from Free, still idling in our channel. I asked Peppie to kick them temporarily, until we end the war with Cromulent. Print screen bellow, from Cromulent's players stating that Munk and Godly and all his team uses the tools to find intel and chatlogs and such.

Here is the print screen: http://s9.postimg.org/6c1risdmn/munk.jpg

And remember, Cello and Burner are in our private channel. It was not my words, but Cromulent's players words.

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Munk is a fabulous utopian, his work improved the gaming experience a lot. He has my deepest respects.

But that does not change the fact he plays in Cromulent and you uses all his intel/chatlogs.

The quality of a professional like Munk is not the issue here. So, don't try to divagate.

And the fact that you denie Munk playing in Cromulent, is that you fear of admitting. But we do know the truth, right?

I've donated to Munk, the past week two other kingdom mates also donated. That because we respect his work.

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Munk is a fabulous utopian, his work improved the gaming experience a lot. He has my deepest respects.

But that does not change the fact he plays in Cromulent and you uses all his intel/chatlogs.

The quality of a professional like Munk is not the issue here. So, don't try to divagate.

And the fact that you denie Munk playing in Cromulent, is that you fear of admitting. But we do know the truth, right?

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No one is denying that Munk plays in CR. His name is on the KD page...

Munk does not spy on the kingdoms that use his bot. He does not share intel from their bots, he does not share logs from their chats. Yes, I believe that he has access to those things.

If his access makes you uncomfortable, don't use his system. It's that simple.

Just look at previuos pages and YOU repeatedly claim munk is a cheater.

I won;t use his tools, at least while waring you.

http://s9.postimg.org/6c1risdmn/munk.jpg

But again: your own players stated that YOU DO USE the tools.

So **** off and go play childish elsewhere. You are deplorable.

AND YOUR PLAYERS STATED, not me. I've offered print screen from BURNER private message. Here it is again.http://s9.postimg.org/6c1risdmn/munk.jpg

Here is the entire quoted text, copy/paste from Burner:

"valahul/peppie, I'd say it's good you worry about spies if you're planning something shady against Cromulent/CR and a different channel or smth is prolly a good idea. I won't leak anything, nor do I think Cello would, but you already have a huge CR spy in your channel regardless of we leave, if you really wanna be safe you need to talk whatever shady in a channel where but isn't present, bot is
<Burner> ran by munk who plays in CR, and he don't really have any moral issues with cheating etc. "

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I won;t use his tools, at least while waring you.

http://s9.postimg.org/6c1risdmn/munk.jpg

But again: your own players stated that YOU DO USE the tools.

So **** off and go play childish elsewhere. You are deplorable.

AND YOUR PLAYERS STATED, not me. I've offered print screen from BURNER private message. Here it is again.http://s9.postimg.org/6c1risdmn/munk.jpg

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He didn't put forth any proof just opinions.

lol. The troll is real on this one, boys.

Lol burner still salty about that plague/nb bounce

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Does Munk play in your kingdom? Answer that.

If yes, that is proof for cheating your pathetic achievement and not a single utopian player can contradict my statement (unless they are your lacheys)

Exploring to 10-15k acres is NOT something to be proud of. Neither feding upon gettos that can't fight back. Neither CF-ing literally all the kingdoms that can pose a threat to your pathetic exploration.

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The answer is yes, as far as I know.

I'm not questioning your concern, just that 99% of the server is unlikely to hold secrets that would benefit CR. What I feel is munk is a good person. You feel different and that's how it works. I respect that.

What I don't want to see is you burning out before you get going. The game needs competitors like yourself. We, me and you, are simlar in our practice, but I'm not offended by the actions of exploring, farming, etc.

For your sake let's assume CR shares intel with it's allies. A pointed attack will get broken off. Look at the current situation, when kingdoms emerge from the ghetto. - This requires a broad approach. There will always be spies, there will always be quitters, there will always be players who value resources over the thrill of challenge. - If you get a chance, take a look at the rise of Pyromaniacs and The U. I'm not saying everybody has to run the same old road, but reading the archives may shed light on what to avoid.

Godly accomplished something great and relatively unfettered. Instead of sitting and relishing an unopposable lead, Godly chose to dig deeper. What's the problem from my perspective? What I learned for 30 years of gaming: the meta leads to burn out. Godly has earned it for as long as he's played, but it'd be sad to see him go.

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The answer is yes, as far as I know.

I'm not questioning your concern, just that 99% of the server is unlikely to hold secrets that would benefit CR. What I feel is munk is a good person. You feel different and that's how it works. I respect that.

What I don't want to see is you burning out before you get going. The game needs competitors like yourself. We, me and you, are simlar in our practice, but I'm not offended by the actions of exploring, farming, etc.

For your sake let's assume CR shares intel with it's allies. A pointed attack will get broken off. Look at the current situation, when kingdoms emerge from the ghetto. - This requires a broad approach. There will always be spies, there will always be quitters, there will always be players who value resources over the thrill of challenge. - If you get a chance, take a look at the rise of Pyromaniacs and The U. I'm not saying everybody has to run the same old road, but reading the archives may shed light on what to avoid.

Godly accomplished something great and relatively unfettered. Instead of sitting and relishing an unopposable lead, Godly chose to dig deeper. What's the problem from my perspective? What I learned for 30 years of gaming: the meta leads to burn out. Godly has earned it for as long as he's played, but it'd be sad to see him go.

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Very good point. That's something to respect also. Except godly's noobish archievement... by CF and exploring and free intel/chatlogs over others (his kdmates claim that!) and bashing poor gettos that can't fight back.
However, when a CR player bring out that statement... can't close my eyes, right? what would you do?

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Very good point. That's something to respect also. Except godly's noobish archievement... by CF and exploring and free intel/chatlogs over others (his kdmates claim that!) and bashing poor gettos that can't fight back.
However, when a CR player bring out that statement... can't close my eyes, right? what would you do?

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Me? I'm the worst mechanics player in the top50, but I abide a moral code similar to what you're illustrating. Short and sweet, I retaliate any and all top kingdom attacks. It's not because I have jealousy issues, it's because where I play I only get a glimpse of top meta. I'm intrigued and enjoy the challenge.

I'll give you a short experience we had this age. A top kingdom randomed into us a couple weeks ago. I'm running an elf cleric (pure slug built to absorb damage). I run no TGs and no Stables, so I'm a footman army. When I ran a som I could've tripled the province easily.

Top kingdom strategy goes a bit deeper you know, so here is an average guys assessment: Obviously the attacker had to run low nw so defense was forfeit. He probably had unbuilt acres to. The ability to give relations to this attacker is just the trap a top kingdom likes to farm the entire kingdom. You can always count on top kingdom tactics having an ergonomic charm. They want those acres on their cows.

* People always talk about "might makes right" but we never hear about covering your flanks. I did one retal. I'm built to take punishment, so if they want to raise the meter that's on them. I won't shy away from giving ops if my kingdom understands how you cut off a portion of the mightier kingdoms nw, isolate and destroy a portion of the core. This comes at a price, but it can happen quickly. Almost no kingdom is willing to follow through on either side.

I'm also an advocate of the 3 hour attack times and have used the tactic as a staple in my playbook.

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Me? I'm the worst mechanics player in the top50, but I abide a moral code similar to what you're illustrating. Short and sweet, I retaliate any and all top kingdom attacks. It's not because I have jealousy issues, it's because where I play I only get a glimpse of top meta. I'm intrigued and enjoy the challenge.

I'll give you a short experience we had this age. A top kingdom randomed into us a couple weeks ago. I'm running an elf cleric (pure slug built to absorb damage). I run no TGs and no Stables, so I'm a footman army. When I ran a som I could've tripled the province easily.

Top kingdom strategy goes a bit deeper you know, so here is an average guys assessment: Obviously the attacker had to run low nw so defense was forfeit. He probably had unbuilt acres to. The ability to give relations to this attacker is just the trap a top kingdom likes to farm the entire kingdom. You can always count on top kingdom tactics having an ergonomic charm. They want those acres on their cows.

* People always talk about "might makes right" but we never hear about covering your flanks. I did one retal. I'm built to take punishment, so if they want to raise the meter that's on them. I won't shy away from giving ops if my kingdom understands how you cut off a portion of the mightier kingdoms nw, isolate and destroy a portion of the core. This comes at a price, but it can happen quickly. Almost no kingdom is willing to follow through on either side.

I'm also an advocate of the 3 hour attack times and have used the tactic as a staple in my playbook.

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There is much sense in your morale code above.

I have just wrote a 2500 words post in UTO earlier, under the title "Hail to Nothingness" and deleted it, not posting it. I will make a summary here since it makes sense with what you say. I've made a brief summary of my UTO experience from 2002 onwards, especially the xlog and trading ****s i've done.

To cut it shortly: very early in my career I've xloged as much as 15 provinces. Of course it ended with deletions. I only wanted to fill out the "missing blanks" until I find active players. Eventually I found...and guess what? We got deleted again - We did made 2 trades that age, but i doubt it's a serious reason (considering top 10 was doing much more dangerous things).

For example, there was a CGI link of utopia that could be accessed with a specific user/password. A friend of mine showed it to me (SAS of Warsong). It was a link where you could have pump any province with ANY number. 5000 bpa you want? Sure, here it is - one click away. Neither SAS, nor me had access to that link. But many had.

What I am trying to say: whenever you search my name as keyword+utopia you will find 30-50% bigger NW wars. I have never abused the weaker. I have never farmed on noobs and gettos.

I did fake wars, I even farmed honor in fake wars - but this came as an agreement! It was an age when being in war = losing honor. So I did the math for 10 days fake war and how much honor would have lose....and asked 25% more for my effort.

I was asked by friends to go in War and kill their inactives or rebels that opposite their monarchy. I did that and took the gains out of it. I hoped my friends will someday rise as a strong kingdom i can count on. And so they did!

But, today in 2015... I see same ****s, same abuses over the weaker (that i never did). I had my share of cheating, as in xlog and trading and I even got ghetto wars by convincing a player from enemy kd to suicide into us so we can get button; in exchange we would recruit him.

But you know what? I did all these because NOBODY wanted to war with me. I had to recruit players from top 3 kingodms with the conditions they give me war button.

It is a game in which competition should RISE and enhance the gaming experience for everybody. Where knowledge should be shared and this is what I am planning to do.

After the war with Cromulent that we will win 200% I will make a post called "Anathomy of a War" and explain the reason and tactical predictions/decisions that led to the war win.

I will share all of our insights and visions so that any ghetto can learn. My hope is that one day a 1000 crazy dickheads like me will rise, and together to take Utopia to a different level of gaming experience.

Hail to Nothingness.

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PS: I've never heard of Godly... of Zauper we used to mock him big time in 2004-2006 as the noob he was :)). I am not a dickhead, I just piss off people to get wars. That is my only intention and it is what I've wanted. I don't care about anybody but me and my own kingdom. I am happy having at least one war promised.

My biggest fear: all server will chicken out from us... like they always did in my all utopia experience.

True utopian elite players know what I am saying :)

All the ****s I've did are now legit. I can buy invites and I can do prov sitting.

But still... people like Godly do ****s in this game. That's a shame. I have never did ****s and abused the weaker, I've always targeted ONLY the "top" players.

I wonder when the shrooms stop working vlahul

Is "Anthomy" an anthom about anatomy?

Im trying to figure out where all that came from honestly..

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Im trying to figure out where all that came from honestly..

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Players play for different reasons.

I freely admit I need strife to enjoy the combative side of the game. It may surprise some that I could happily go through the ages growing, studying and living in peace with my neighbors. If you understand the moral code I follow in game then it's no surprise at all.

The point is that in game my province follows 'a way of life'. Respect others as we respect ourselves. There is no meta in my make.

The notion that this is a war game is solely a decision made by the community. I don't like my peasants working like dogs for my army, but I want my army strong enough to defend it's people. My province is united under a code of chivalry. To give land to a larger province because it wants to exercise dominant power is reprehensible in my eyes. It's a sin against the people and our beliefs. We fight as one. We die as one. - This is a roleplaying aspect.

In real life I'm a cigar smoking, middle-aged loner lost in the glory of the 80s. I don't like being tied down at home so I have a tablet to play Utopia and shop guitar gear at my whim. The limits of my tablet wouldn't allow me to be involved with serious kingdoms as a member. This is ergo to my love of playing the game raw and always having a bigger nemesis to test my skills.

Oh, I could skip the cigars and get setup to roll top kingdom style. I've played meta and understand what needs to be done. I'm active enough to run attacks every 3 ticks and I've got nothing standing in my way. Since age 63 I've not lost acres in war. I came close in two wars this age. For those who say acres don't matter, ask the tops and remember who you asked for aid and who provided it. For those who understand, I humbly render my skills to build a stronger kingdom.

Sitting in safe-mode all age must make record setting pretty strenuous.

Vlahul your accusations towards Munk, or CR because he plays there, are simply absurd. I'm playing in CR this age and prior have had little to no contact with members of this kingdom and I most likely won't keep playing in the top. Therefore I have no reason to lie. I have seen no indications that Munk misused his power as bot creator, or any rumours of backstage shenanigans. Our leaders are commendable people. We have been getting our own damn intel like any other kd.

You don't have to go to such lengths to rile them up. I'm looking forward to see them kick your ass next age ;)

Godly nice science but its defo easier to get nowadays than say 15 ages ago.. half the playerbase at the least means far less folks hitting you. Easier pump times.. Records set the last 10 ages mean little to me tbh, since it is far easier with the reduced competition.

Also its doable to beat that if another sage gets landdropped to 300 acres I bet :D

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Sitting in safe-mode all age must make record setting pretty strenuous.

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Yeah because I've been in safe mode all round. We didn't have to fight Flogger or emeriti. Hater

Where's your Christmas spirit? Why come you can't just say congrats sir and move on. All the little noobs so jealous

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Palem isn't there a rule against libel? Because this will now be the third individual in this thread that is accusing me of cheating without proof.

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Can't libel a nick.

Also vlahul FYI, if munk tells all and sundry about the Intel he gets from people using his bot that is not cheating as far as the game is concerned. And no, there was no magic "gain5k bpa button". I wish there was, it would make my life easier.

What he is talking is most likly that /admin or something link where you got a login box username/password, i belive blake used if for doing his cleaning, but in my intire UT i never heard of anyone breaking that login (was the code before omac) lotsa rumors but it was all bull****, and i know of a groupe of 10 people running campus computers to Brute Force it.

Anyways as i never was logged into it nor anyone else i ever meet i would not know what was behind the secret door.

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Yeah because I've been in safe mode all round. We didn't have to fight Flogger or emeriti. Hater

Where's your Christmas spirit? Why come you can't just say congrats sir and move on. All the little noobs so jealous

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I call bull****!

You did not NOT have to fiht flogger. You caught flogger at a bad time for flogger and chose to fight flogger. Don't give me this HAD to fight flogger bull****....

:D

still well played..

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I call bull****!

You did not NOT have to fiht flogger. You caught flogger at a bad time for flogger and chose to fight flogger. Don't give me this HAD to fight flogger bull****....

:D

still well played..

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One could argue that we 'had' to fight flogger then to enforce our advantages before they disappeared

But I am a half full kinda guy

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What he is talking is most likly that /admin or something link where you got a login box username/password, i belive blake used if for doing his cleaning, but in my intire UT i never heard of anyone breaking that login (was the code before omac) lotsa rumors but it was all bull****, and i know of a groupe of 10 people running campus computers to Brute Force it.

Anyways as i never was logged into it nor anyone else i ever meet i would not know what was behind the secret door.

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The login existed, the ability to edit bpa (or anything sexy) didn't.

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What he is talking is most likely that /admin or something link where you got a login box username/password, i belive Blake used if for doing his cleaning, but in my entire UT I never heard of anyone breaking that login (was the code before mac) lotsa rumors but it was all bull****, and I know of a groupe of 10 people running campus computers to Brute Force it.

Anyways as I never was logged into it nor anyone else I ever meet I would not know what was behind the secret door.

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probably you're right, but we will never know the truth.
Yes, it was from Blake, but I heard rumors about Blake having some connection with some uto players.

Bishop knows better what he says about that link. I guess :). If he says it did not pump anything, I can believe that. Again - we will never know. And i do not care in fact. I am glad to see UTO at a much higher level after both Mehul and Omac left. Especially Mehul, who had treason over many of his colleagues and business partner (as I've heard, don't care) being a greedy *****.

What matters is today's Utopia, which deserves to grow and have more users. For me, at least, it is a far better experience, but I'm that type of player Mehul disliked - "I play for the win" and I had to log and trade to be able to compete with other similar players.

Now it is not the case anymore, and that's what matters. Nobody needs cheating to win nowadays; it is not necessary for xloging, trading or other ****s. It is what it had to be always for Utopia.

That "environment" bull**** Mehul talked about, with new players enjoying randomization in some ghetto.... nobody enjoys that. It is fun, in the beginning, meet new people, make new friends, but you cannot spend so much time and resources...for nothing.

That's the main reason I; ve returned and planned to help anyway I can this community to grow.
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I am a film maker in real life, currently working for a medieval drama Web Series for youtube (Mongol Invasion in 1241). I hope to launch it in spring 2016, still have to do some more shootings to complete it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XLbIVd0yT8 (unreleased teaser).

I plan to do a 10 minutes short episodes series inspired by Utopia, as a free youtube series with a similar approach as LOTR, but strictly based on Utopia. Hope I can finish that as I wish, it might be a Youtube success :)

This is by far the most innovative social media based marketing strategy i've ever seen.

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This is by far the most innovative social media based marketing strategy i've ever seen.

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It has also benefits for me and could boost awarness for Utopia hugely. As a film maker (33 years old, just started my career some 5-6 years ago) I would boost my portfolio (aiming for top quality I can deliver), as well as the team I work with. Trust me, many professionals - actors, light, camera, anything you want ... involves pro bono or under contract for "future work".

For my medieval drama, I've started a crowdfund campaign which had a moderate success (so I made it with my own money after all). My mistake was that I've targeted 23 million Romanians and not a "world-wide" subject. So the real crowdfund supporters (UK, Germany, USA, Scandinavia, etc) did not give a **** about the Mongol Invasion in 1241 :).

But this Utopia-inspired free Web Series, can pull million of views over youtube - that will generate an income to self-produce further episodes.

The www.kickstarter.com does really works for such things, but it needs a 15-20% preliminary boost from friends and family for the project to "kick off".

Bravo. That's amazing, vlahul82.

Now I've gotta get a better job.

^ one of the guys on my list.

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this is by far the most innovative social media based marketing strategy i've ever seen.

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rofl!!!!

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I call bull****!

You did not NOT have to fiht flogger. You caught flogger at a bad time for flogger and chose to fight flogger. Don't give me this HAD to fight flogger bull****....

:D

still well played..

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I'm pretty sure I know more about what happened than you considering I did all the diplo with the 3 major players in utopia on behalf of CR prior to that conflict. You're just a soldier in your kingdom. I'm a leader. I'm Obama you're the drone. In other words everything that I do in utopia is several pay grades higher than where you *think* you are.

I'll give you the cliff notes: Flogger effectively noticed us. We didn't even want to fight him. In fact (and others in my kingdom can verify), I very upset about the decision. So you can pretend that you know things based on 5th hand knowledge , but don't step to 1st hand knowledge.

Is Vlahul the new Scott250? This movie thing reminds me of some kick boxing

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I'm pretty sure I know more about what happened than you considering I did all the diplo with the 3 major players in utopia on behalf of CR prior to that conflict. You're just a soldier in your kingdom. I'm a leader. I'm Obama you're the drone. In other words everything that I do in utopia is several pay grades higher than where you *think* you are.

I'll give you the cliff notes: Flogger effectively noticed us. We didn't even want to fight him. In fact (and others in my kingdom can verify), I very upset about the decision. So you can pretend that you know things based on 5th hand knowledge , but don't step to 1st hand knowledge.

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You consider making a joke presenting facts? Why on earth are you so touchy? Sheesh!

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I'm pretty sure I know more about what happened than you considering I did all the diplo with the 3 major players in utopia on behalf of CR prior to that conflict. You're just a soldier in your kingdom. I'm a leader. I'm Obama you're the drone. In other words everything that I do in utopia is several pay grades higher than where you *think* you are.

I'll give you the cliff notes: Flogger effectively noticed us. We didn't even want to fight him. In fact (and others in my kingdom can verify), I very upset about the decision. So you can pretend that you know things based on 5th hand knowledge , but don't step to 1st hand knowledge.

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you black?