You mean Calle could retrospectively be called Bart 2.0? Im sorry but that title is already taken :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
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You mean Calle could retrospectively be called Bart 2.0? Im sorry but that title is already taken :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
rofl! sheesh I almost forgot about that! Thanks for making me remember Palem!Quote:
Originally Posted by palem
Stop trying so hard ... it's getting too obvious now and kinda embarrassing as well. Do you even know who Calle is? I think he quit before you finished kleuterschoolQuote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Is Sparta going to break our record to give the "biggest farm out in the entire history of Utopia" ?
That would certainly take some effort Astron!
Not even close lol. You lost what, 40% of your land in 3 days to Em?Quote:
Originally Posted by astron
First and second place for biggest intentional farm out keep Pew Pew age 58 vs SWEA and age 59 vs fake Rage lead by drix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Bart is not ever close.
Oh man the fake rage farmout.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
I think most hurt from all this was Anri/Simians. He loss his honor crown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
Personally i think Anri have most sad fate from all Utopia leaders...
are you still upset about age 58? Get over it man. Was a fun age! And you hit into Pew Pew war so you didn't let them war us remember so they hit you outside the war instead. =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
hmm, Sparta T/M's unhit, can they do any damage on those human sages? if yes, then Spara might be able to turn this around.
Getting 2v1'd and hitting the outside kingdom instead of the one you're at war with. oDD, I feel like something similar was happening lately and/or right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansoor
Sometimes you have to get creative with your war strats okay.
Wrong, try again. does those stuff between your ears ever work ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
I think game is in this bad shape now because devs didunt punish proper Pew Pew and SWEA age 58. Its only natural when people cheat and its work more people to follow it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansoor
And about Pew Pew, lets clear some parts.
1. They was looking for reson to deal break SWEA all age because you hit Stripers during war with Pew Pew.
2. They had trained up for deal break SWEA when you wave Simians and we gave you notice.
3. After Simians declare war few hours before we can wave SWEA Pew Pew told me to go notice Stripers and farm them out.
4. After i notice Stripers Pew Pew did what they did to you early and convice Stripers to war them not AMA.
5. AMA and Pew Pew was ally. We have shared our CFs duration and Pew Pew had for over 2 more weeks CF with Stripers. Still they drop his CF behind all his ally kingdoms and "helped" them to run from us.
6. When i found out Pew Pew and Stripers start hostile i PMed both kingdoms leaders. Both from them was online and both ignored me. Its not how ally kingdom need to act.
7. Our CF with Stripers already expired and we wave them. There was no reason for us to hold back just because Pew Pew broke his CF deal with them for war them first,
8. During First war Pew Pew and Stripers Petrified INTENTIONALLY let one from Stripers Cow to grow so he can raze after war SWEA cow.
Its was clear for me now Pew Pew did same kind deal with them and its why we had no other choice for wave and when Petrified told me he "will GB" us for hit Stripers its was clear he serious think to do it. So my kingdom decide to wait till war end and wave pew pew. They already effective left our alliance not being in alliance channel for few days. Here come BB in attempt to convince me how Pew Pew wont make any BS so we need to let it go. I didut want to escalate all this too so we trusted BB and left Pew Pew alone. They finish his war, left it undrafted and did masive explore and AMA start prepare for war SWEA after you end your second hostile with Simians. Age will have finished in his normal way if Petrified didunt decide to act lame again. First he offered BB to intentional farm out to them so they can win crown, after they decline he start prepare GB on us together with Stripers. So AMA had choice to go after Pew Pew for being ass or war SWEA. We did what was more fair and its why we CFEd SWEA.
About SWEA "win" age. Sorry but you dont have any important role in all this. SWEA was only left kingdom in top for Pew Pew to farm out and its why you won. If this was done not age 58 but last age your kingdom wont be in chart. So here is noting for you to be proud on personal level or kingdom level. You are just lucky guy.
I have ****loads to be proud of:Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
1. a kingdom full of noobs
2. a kingdom full of swedes
3. a kingdom that didn't woke up at night to hit (some did, majority didnt)
4. a kingdom with no allies
You seem to remember all that ****, i forgot everything except that we crowned. And if we crowned last age we would still be in chart. SWEA did in no way cheat or break any rules. Just like Sleepy farmed out Bart this age, nothing they could do about it and nothing we could do about it. Did we play dishonorably? Well, we didn't play honorably or stupidly. But to claim that we wouldn't be on the charts is just silly. Pewpew decided to hit you instead of us. You can ask Binar or anyone who played in pewpew that age if SWEA and PewPew had any agreement on farm out. You shouldn't have hit pewpew into our war, you got greedy.
Now lets forget the past, and just remember how i beat you to the crown and focus on sleepy vs sparta.
Will sparta T/M turn the war in their favor?
Hahahahahaha :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Mansoor
1. Almost every kingdoms is full with n00bs. Its include Emeriti/BB being one from "TOP" kingdoms.
2. Kingdoms being full with 1 nation. Many other kingdoms did same in past.
3. Kingdom not wake up for hits = medium quality ghetto
4. Kingdom with no ally = 99.9% from all kingdoms in game
I think you gave reasons to 99.9% from kingdoms in Utopia to be proud. No doubt this is your best achievement in Utopia! :P
How i told you, You/SWEA was just lucky guy noting more. Next age Pew Pew did same with fake Rage and Drix was lucky guy. Only difference is this time many kingdoms decide to react and not let same BS work for second age in raw. Well we failed it because first we let Pew Pew to chart shape honor chart and second We let Drix to abuse his deal so he finish n2 for NW when its was supposed to be BB.
Don't limit your vision to just 1 age or 1-2 kingdom names. Its was first major intentional farm out for chart shape. This repeat many times and still going from age 58 till now. AMA was victim age 58 but few ages back its was Emeriti when Binar = ext Pew Pew co leader is now Emeriti co leader. This is bad for every one in game.
Age 59 this had huge negative reaction from TOP and its age when CJ/Nesta start his path for land chart. During this time TOP 3 was AMA/BB/CR and most used tactic was "soft diplomacy" doing deals for free acres. Its what they learn and used in new better level and its pissed later both CR and BB but its result how game was accepted from top so CJ/Nesta are product from it.
Bart joined game age when i retire so he have see both bad practice about soft diplomacy and arranged wars/friendly farming. He just copy it and bring to new extreme level. Its complete wrong but you cant put all blame on him. He is product how many kingdoms played for long.
SWEA and AMA are not around from long. Pew Pew gone too, BUT all this started age 58. Bishop did attempt to act and action this but devs stooped him. Its why game play develop in this terrible way. Im glad last age new devs did correct decision to action this play. If this wont work more kingdoms/players will naturally stop use it.
Sparta t/ms arent unhit at all. They are actually the focus of attention right now. They will be going down 1 by 1 the next 24-48h. Then we shall see how the orcs and undeads with no defense manage to hold out. Since they hardly have def specs left, the nsing takes alot of elites, which will soon be noticed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansoor
War is still 50/50 :)
This is very tricky question. From one side orc have clear superior gains, when both sides trade so many lands x4 its result most from time you have 50%+ unbuilt. Its bring some other important moments....Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai
P.S. !
Aren't sleepy Humans? I think Human vs orc/undead combo can make you feel embarrassed again this age :P
If they want to stay till EOA is all good to me, this war will be like emeriti vs pandas last age if needed;) I have the time for it and I don't have frustrated people as they do;). Their advantages (dragon and ritual) end in 2 days. We shall see how it goes then. And ofc NW gap was closing as we did razes with all bigs last wave lol. Check again in 48 hours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Funny how you didn't have that patience vs BB and pulled out of a war ahead to go for crown, but now suddenly things are different :) ?
Didn't ever think I would root for Coss...but hey I rather have AIDS than Cancer.
Maybe he is a smart gut and knew he would lose the war longterm but in this war he feel certain of a win...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
I rot for Coss all time but still want Shai to feel embarrassed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansoor
BTW i hope you wont have AIDS or Cancer. Its not something to joke.
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Originally Posted by Elit
Elit, sometime I wonder if you are just dumb for real or just acting.
1. In age 58 not all kd:s were full of noobs. if you think all are noobs then you are one too? Or wait, you are romanian, that is worse.
2. How many other did it in the past and won with all from same country? And especially later ages when players are hard to come by. Just getting 25 swedes was difficult.
3. Agree
4. maybe now, but you were allied with BB and PewPew. Others were allies with each other. Now there are no allies anymore.
Sometimes I am amazed how difficult it is for you to understand basic things. You are talking about age 58 SWEA as it was age 72...
May allah forgive me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
1.Over ages i have found just because some one have "famous name" or was in TOP kingdom dont mean he is good player. I call for reason most from ppl n00bs because they are...Calling me Romanian or any other nation cant really offend me. I cant hate nations i can dislike concrete people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansoor
2. How i told you SWEA is just lucky guy you didunt really win, if we use now day standards you will be removed from chart too. Still if you want to look over past 1 nation kingdoms i can refer to very old Fratzia. They was main Romanians and very successful kingdom for time they play not jsut one age. Very old Sanctuary (around age 42-45) was main azn kingdom. Not sure if all .ma Most like ASF will know better. They was good kingdom not for just 1 age too.
4.AMA/BB/Pew Pew and Simains was ally. You had no ally but you miss main. First its was my ally what gave you free crown. Second we are not ABS. If you had to compete with ABS you will have finished 2vs1 long ago before you take acres from Simians. We didn't power play you at all. Its why i was ally with BB-Flogger for so long. He have sense for fairness!
What you fail to understand is im not talk about SWEA its about intentionally farming out for chart shape because you hate kingdom X. Its started age 58 on major level, its follow next age too. This kind play proved to be "successful" so many kingdoms start follow this model.
My point is if this was stooped effective age 58 its wont have escalated over ages so much. Now its easy to blame Bart but he is result from what started age 58.
2. How many other did it in the past and won with all from same country? And especially later ages when players are hard to come by. Just getting 25 swedes was difficult.
Legoland 24 danes + 1 norwigen living in denmark.
Tivoli all danes.
Both winners and same country.
Ofc this was not later age, but then you can also say it was harder to win back then vs not so many players.
To be fair take away Cato the Elder, Mordor, Warkrazz and my self there hasent relly been that many great dane players, alot of good players great no so that should make it harder also ?
Also i belive Elit is bulgarien
We can discuss all day all night. I crowned many times but SWEA is my crown jewel. That one I am truly proud with. But you dont know how it is managing 24 swedes and Korp where majority of the kingdom not played in a top 50 kingdom.
Mike: true i did mention Tivoli in my slack kd channel but we didnt remember if they crowned. Was a cool kd but my all time favourite kd was Morgoth Minions, such a cool name and banner they had!
Lets see if sleepy can bring down those T/M:s!
Time to go home Elit! Thank you for the entertainment. I tried getting you pissed but no luck today :D
Where you playing these days? Sleepy?
Go home safe and don't worry for me. No one can piss me off easy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansoor
Some time ago when RPP alliance and CR did GB on AMA its resulted all give up doing diplo with me and send me Munk. Turned 5 kingdoms cant take me down when its come to diplo and forum fight! :)
Mike is correct, im from Bulgaria. Im sure age when you "Crown" with SWEA is one from best for you because its was way to crazy age. I have no bad feeling for you or SWEA at all. All my blame is on my own ally not you and second im talk about it in general.
You say won but its not really won its was gift because one hate other more and its main problem. Win must be result from compete where better one win. Some ages better one is result from dirty play but its still legit. When ppl start "compete" with intentional farming out its kill all reasons for keep play game. Its why i stop it. No point waste your time for game like it.
Im not in sleepy. Long time ago me and coss started kingdom together. Now we are on good terms but ONLY when both from us are in different kingdoms :D
Funny? No. But this one became personal cause they keep on being a bunch of stubborn liars. Guess they took all the great in you, including being a bunch of jackasses that refuse to withdraw when they are getting jammed. I tried to be nice to them till one point and guess what, they returned the favor as they did when they lied like 12 years old kids about not noticing us. One of the parties will end farmed. Guess who has 2 attackers left over 1 mil nw and 3 left over 500k mo and their rogues getting chained and massacred to sh!t? You are right! They are. Farming time coming soon. And btw, ONLY reason why they are still in NW and Land range is cause they don;t want to win the war but keep us in war as much as possible and since the start they didn't aim to win the war or if that's how they plan a war to be won ... then their problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
@Bart, that awesome t/m strong setup of yours didn;t ns even 10% the amount of army we ns-ed so far. And we are just starting:) They failed a nm/ns wave to sh!t and ns-ed just 3k troops and managed to hit my guy not even to half land. In return we droped an orc to nothing with NS even if it was not planned just for the show:D
Yea good job having 3x Sparta's sci on human/sages after I handed you the age 1 hour OOP.
Not sure what you mean with doing favours. I did you the biggest favour you could possibly wish for, in return you refused a termed CF and tried to force a mild non-compete (85% range clause) on Sparta.
I don't approve of them lying about not noticing, that is one thing that I'd never do and I wouldn't have noticed you. But, since it's my KD and my people I have no choice but to support whatever choices they make.
Also, if I'd been in charge I probably would've found a way to justify DBing the U for land and let them end up farming their land to me (instead of now to Ronins). But that's another story!
I gave them a no interest CF same as I did with rest there was nothing like no-competing clause in it. They benefited from it a lot;) Unlike them I told them they can explore and I won't notice them if they get into 25% we agreed on and I didn't lie lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
As for the the favor you made, I never asked for it. And I am not sure it was a favor that we weren't able to get a war till yr 6 and had to give free cfs to everyone. And by the time we actually warred people could stock gold and move sci just where interest is,as BB did and as Sparta did;)
U werent obliged to give free CFs to everyone. That was your own choice.
Looks like a fun war :D
We decided to notice Sleepy was my decision. It wasn't bart's decision. I take responsibility for my action. Bart shouldn't take the blame for this war. I don't know who is sleepy or Coss is. I'm new to utopia after taking a long time off. It was my decision, not Bart. If you have a problem with it, take it to me. Please leave bart alone on this war. Thanks
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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Man I was in Cambodia on vaca with the gf boss and these guys message me saying we were gonna go war coss... I DIDNT GET TO RIDE AN ELEPHANT BECAUSE OF YOU COSS. #ihatecoss #spartansridelephantstowar?Quote:
Originally Posted by thanh83
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Originally Posted by thanh83
What he means to say is that he was for the notice and to be quite honest, we should have done you dirty. After all the slander and crying coss is doing. My intentions have always been honest and I have always bad proof of facts and reason behind decisions made.
Once again, we had no intention of noticing sleepy until meep ran his big mouth and dragged sleepy into it. I wouldn't put it past them either from what I've been seeing. Although, once both sides showed their reasoning it came down to coss being all for the war, "did not want to back out of it" to him requesting we retract as extend the notice to a more convenient notice for him and poor sleepy. Us, being the ****playing kd we are said yeah man no problem we will accommodate your needs no problem, we'll grab you a box of cleanex as well. So, we gave him the extra time and prep he needed, because that's how dirty we are.
46 hours into war....
Coss: u better win this:)
Coss: cause else b2b is coming
Coss: i hate goodbye waves
Me: Eh
Coss: i said what i had to say
Coss: i am sick of your stupid frustrated orcs
Me: I've only woken up about hour ago and driving
Coss: and unless u want to get your ass wooped u better stop all hits and wd in 2 hours or plan your win
Inspiring words from such a respectable guy to such a ****playing opponent.
As expected, we did not respond in the way he preferred. But good luck to sleepy as well.
** The kingdom of 7:20 **
Total land exchanged: -1,085 (546/676)
Oh dear god.... it's happening.. we're losing guys... our next wave is coming up soon...
What do we do? Stop hits and let coss max gain per request and then we can surrender so he can prep to notice ronin.
Gtfo with the endless nonsense. Your tears are obnoxious and we're running out of tissue already.
Edit: let's face the facts here, your opinions were made up before you clicked this thread. I expect nothing different.
Not my fault he keeps saying the word coss. I fail to see where I blame Bart of anything. And I have no problem with it other than letting anyone know sparta even if claimed to be new blood and leadership acts the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by thanh83
Youre lucky Im not in charge. Would never have given ya extra prep time esp after you sold out your KD to BB (again, how much money was transferred?).
Had such high hopes for thus age based on the **** u been claiming for ages on how u hated CR tactics and weremt gonna CF anyone. First thing u do is CF all and pump 6 weeks only to pull out min time being NW UP.
BB is actually owned by Soros ( * X-Files theme song* )Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta