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If you can't make friends/allies, stop being butt hurt and man up. There must be a reason whyQuote:
oh and we all know many who post are your so called allies for now..
This is cool~! man up for his actionQuote:
Pyro and Havoc should war and if Pyro win they can win crown.
Havoc got taxed already so you have "permission" for it :)
It's quite simple:Quote:
Originally Posted by scitzo
1) In the last 3-4 ages, when is the last time a ****-playing kingdom got punished for their antics that either a) cost a kingdom the crown or b) gave themselves a crown? I don't think it's happened until now with this action to prevent Havoc from crowning through power playing, threats, and dictating other's wars through land taxation or threats (such as earlier portions of this thread). Ironically most of the **** playing during this time has cost AMA the most crown opportunities. Why all of a sudden the urge to police crap now? Is there really this much animosity towards AMA? Why??? Because they can't be beat on equal terms? Because for all the **** talking, they're one of the few kingdoms that can talk the talk and walk the walk?
2) Does anyone REALLY TRUTHFULLY believe AMA thought they could get away with something like this to win the crown, this early in the age without repercussions? Do you REALLY believe that Havoc would roll over and let AMA keep all those acres, let alone get enough time to pump them prior to all other CF's expiring (such as Pyros)? Do you really think this would lead to AMA Crowning? Common people WAKE TF UP! :)
I think the real irony here is if this GB plays out to "punish" AMA for wrongful doings. AMA, the kingdom that has lost the most opportunities for a crown during the last 3 ages of foul-play and shenanigans by other kingdoms. AMA finally grows some balls and sticks up for themselves against yet another age of shenanigans by fighting ****-play with ****-play, and NOW.....ONLY NOW we decide it is unacceptable and call for a GB????? There is some serious fing biased **** going on right now. But I guess we shouldn't be surprised, how many of the kingdoms banding together to perform the GB have a clean slate themselves? Most of them have exercised their own form of ****-play the last few ages. The bigger irony here is this "Claim" to re-write the rules on fair play by shady kingdoms (like Maximouse's claim to want to clean up the game).
Long ago I was suspecting Anri is using heavy drugs he steals from his work. But till this thread I did not realize he was also sharing them with his kd mates all that time, coz only heavily drugged person can think Simians ever won any top kd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuck
We as Utopian community can't just sit and watch silently how Anri is doing such experiments against humanity in his kd from age to age.
This have to stopped! I am calling the police now.
I was gonna write up a big post nitpicking at a bunch of things, pointing out past situations, etc. It really just isn't worth the effort.
@proteus: Bandwagoning seems fitting for a "cool cat" like you.
I don't believe you. Reading comments in this thread, this appears to just be a blatant lie. You will not accept responsibility, which means if other kingdoms action you for this, you will attempt to spin a new lie in attempt to get vengeance in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cello
I agree that Havoc/CR players this age, or at least a public portion of them, have been rather rude or spoken with poor attitude. They have not broken their word, though, despite some hurt feelings from heated debates. I favor their action of keeping their agreement in the face of disrespect to your sentiment that it is acceptable to dealbreak.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cello
I do hope good comes from this. With the amount of land contending kingdoms so heavily diminished, I hope now is the time that people take a stand. I honestly believe that AMA's action in this event will tell me if utopia is worth playing any further. It may just be time to indeed let ethics go and live in utopian chaos.
Bias is a funny thing. Your post here also contains it. AMA threatened with BB to dealbreak and 2v1 Havoc, the same kingdom you just dealroke, in order to force them to war a kingdom of your choice. Funny how your opinion changes when the shoe is on the other foot. But you can excuse your actions as "growing balls" because unrelated kingdoms have also played ****ty?Quote:
Originally Posted by Greaser
All the drama of this situation aside - How are you doing man? I didn't even know you still played uto, and haven't seen you since we last played together. How many other old NeXuS players are in AMA? :o
When we say we will take the responsibility Ezzer, that means we are aware we are going to get gbed. I don't get where is the lie in that? Please explain. When we say we are not going for the crown, it's not because we don't want to, it's because we expect to be gbed and we know we got no chance. End of story. How is that a lie? We lie that we are going to be gbed?
As for the threats of CR being only threats. It's not like we didn't get ****played before. Usually kds that threaten us, fulfill their promises. But what is more important, and i really don't get it why it is hard to grasp. AMA dealt with threats before. We did the same thing, when we are threatened we act. Pewpew knows that. And everybody else could have seen it. I personally hate the dealbreak. But if i have to choose db and get gbed for it, or farmout to Pyro to give them crown...second will never happen. So i don't know why we still discuss it:
- we made a deal break
- you are going to GB us for it
End of story. All additional bs talk is only because different parties would love to gain something from that GB. If it is only about punishing us, stop the posts, prepare and do it. But of course it has never been only about that :).
Understanding you will get GB'd and accepting responsibility aren't the same thing. Otherwise, I agree with your post.
Remember when you and Strippers and Pewpew "gbed" AMA 3v1 and they came out ahead?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
In what alternate universe would Simians have a remote chance to beat AMA in a war?
You are and will always be the joke KD of utopia
If AMA were to get GBed they would cry it is unfair even though repeatedly they have admitted in this thread it was a scrubby move to pull and how they deserve it.
So many kingdoms have been **** played, bullied and screwed over in the past and it is funny seeing Proteus smack talk the moves when "his" kingdom was at the time allied to the one screwing over AMA. HE could have acted and told Havoc to stop but chose not to. Proteus has claimed time and time again that when the main leaders leave the kingdom it is not the same anymore. SO why does he continue to bring **** up that happened over 4 ages ago thinking it is relevant and these actions are justified because of it?
The only kingdom's leadership that seems to still be original is AMA/Simians. AMA for one over the last 4 ages has done their fair play of **** playing but as kds around them change, his does not yet wants revenge on the kds that wronged him previously even though leadership has changed. Also AMA cries elit is fair and I admit on some occasions he has been, BUT why do you think kds spite him so much to take "his" crowns? It is not because he was nice to them that's for sure. It is because they feel/felt they had been wronged in the past. It was like Elit's hatred to ABs. It built up over ages, not over night.
Next age can we cut all the BS and if anyone mentions something that happened in the past can we all GB them? Lets start afresh when freeze mode starts.
So that means no? And the rest of your blablabla is about ancient history again..Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
And FYI: this time I wasnt trollong. I really wanted to know if AMA ever beat Pyro.
TBH, I would welcome an age where CF and alliances don't exist. A back to it's roots age where every kingdom has to fend for itself. At the very least I think it would be an interesting experiment that, who knows, may even balance kingdom growth. Especially considering dicing/exploring is so linear now and you can only whore until the last ghetto is out of range b4 being forced into waring the more experienced kingdoms (if you can get them to give you the flipp'n button, but that's another game mechanic problem for another thread).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzerland
Honestly, I've only had ~3 ages off since Age 4. Never really stopped playing. There are some selfish prats that wont let people retire from this game even after getting married, working 12 hour days and raising 2 kids... Anyways, I'm always around, just never idle anywhere but the kingdom channel. I usually stay away from all the trolling and drama since it's usually not worth the stress or time (as you can see by my number of posts), but this thread interested me. I'm fascinated by the line drawn in the sand. There's the folks that hate AMA and no matter what they do they're the scum plaguing the game, and then there's the people that relate to them or respect their game play (probably fewer of them now lol).Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzerland
How's your better half?
That's actually quite funny...Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
Where was all "moral" people when Sanctuary and Havoc duble hostile us. Did they get GB for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzerland
Where was all "moral" people when Pew Pew farmed out to swea and after SWEA manipulate Simians/Stripers to GB us, when this not worked SWEA deal broke us too.
Where was all "moral" people when Pew Pew farmed out last age to Rage. Did they got GBed for chart shape every age? No they become ally with Rage next age. Sure its make sense.
Where was all "moral" people when we get **** played every age? No one care about us. Its same this age too. ATM no one care for havoc. All was perfect fine if we raze acres after we take down Havoc so Pyro can win age. Now because we dont raze them Drixx/CJ feel upsed and become "moral".
If pyro want to win his age legit can war havoc now 1vs1 and if win his war we will let them finish n1. If Pyro get involved in any gb don't matter how its end if Puro win its result from free pass. No more legit from if we win from deal break.
So make your choices and bring some action...and be ready for get punished for them in future ;)
Where was all the "moral" people when AMA hit in to war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
Oh right, probably playing in AMA.
You mean when Amas allies backstabbed them by cheating them out of their target?Quote:
Originally Posted by Runefire
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Originally Posted by Elit
It seems alot of people are butthurt about AMA. I will share with you an old chinese saying: "The tree that bears the most fruit gets thrown at."
In short, haters gonna hate. These people who are hating on you guys are just jelly. =P