They started a sapphire, but haven't funded. We killed the gold and hit their big cow.
Meter is 4|8, with us having 1-way ops.
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They started a sapphire, but haven't funded. We killed the gold and hit their big cow.
Meter is 4|8, with us having 1-way ops.
So much advantages again and again playing it slow. Give pandas the button allready
Who has all these advantages you speak of?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spice
Divinity has all advantages :OQuote:
Originally Posted by era
well if they drop our core some and they grow some land, we indeed will have huge bpa advantage on coreQuote:
Originally Posted by era
We didn't have a plan for when they hit our T/M's and big human core.
We're all kinda running around like headless chickens and then the cows killed the dragon and did a trad march.
I think we're okay now - they had more provs online during their wave so they did ET when it was aggy - aggy.
I had a super late lunch :( - but it was greek so :)
Currently 1 ruby on Panda's
3 halfers and 1 fae hit in CR
x:x | own_tm:1063 (1) | own_raze:1169 (2) | enemy_tm:3568 (5) | enemy_cf_withdrawn:0 (1) | enemy_cf_proposal:0 (1) | enemy_cf_broken:0 (1) | -2505 total
edit: the human that got hit wanted me to remind everyone that he's a big nub who got himself hit as well
Prepping for this war felt like cramming for finals the day before.
https://i.imgflip.com/10htaw.jpg
CR obviously wins the cow war, at least to start, but Pandas will win the war. Avian/WH ftw.
So you've seen the Stepfather film series? :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Slashypoo
Well that's the part I always elude to: drop and learn simultaneous with avian. You must leave shriveled husks before the next theater of combat.Quote:
Originally Posted by SnirpsneR
You don't have to forgive my double post. I'm just catching up after work and reacting like a peanut gallery moop.
I already told you the sign you need is https://themirthofdespair.files.word...6/darelog1.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by vir
I'm sure Jwhozi and the boys don't have to hold your hand when crossing the street nor did Hesus or Coss.
I've been thinking the same thing the whole age, I understand week 1 the whoring kds take top honor but you'd think avians warring would double humans whoring by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
That sounds like an abusive relationship. You need to leave them. Pay the child support and just cut your loses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
Please child.Quote:
Originally Posted by CannaWhoopazz
Look, this is easy to explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Band of Horses
Offhand, Pandas has gained 60k acres this age from attacks. Of those attacks, ~30k were 'tax' deals that required ano. Another 20-25k were in hostile vs fairly low honor kds (early age, war vs BB, 2nd war vs Div). Their setup isn't really designed to drag wars and funnel honor to a small number of provs in the same way that most honor kds are, so it's hard for them to gain tons of honor in a quick war -- and they haven't fought anyone with more than like 45k honor (apparently more!). They've gained ~25-30k acres through WW bonus.
CR has gained ~85k acres from attacks. Of those, ~25k were 'tax' deals that required ano. We've functionally hit for double the land they have without ano, with the revised gains that means significant honor.
The only surprising thing here is that they've gained more tax acres than we have.
50:50
Thanks for the explanation, I didn't realize they were doing so many anon land drops it's too bad they could have really had a nice advantage with WH honor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
It is not surprising to me at all that they got the better deals, everyone likes the underdog story and no one wants to help a dynasty. There are parallels between this and Exp v cJ race, you got the friendlier deals then.
#5050 #PayMeep2PayGodly #FreeCrownIsntFree #FreeCrownCostsABuckOFive
Its official, you have been reduced to unknownghost / darkzazn levels of communication. Congrats on becoming your own meme.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOne
whoisthisoddghetto
I hope Godly doesn't have a stroke or something. Worried about you Bro.
Munk has this "troll" feature that prints fake hits from kdnews in channel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Godly almost strangled Munk when there was a fake hit on one of our cows.
I'd be so afraid to get strangled over the internet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
Quote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
[ Music: "Jaws Theme ]
[ a knock at the door ]
Woman #2: [ appoaches the door ] Yes?
Land Shark: [ muffled voice ] Mrs. Arlsbergerhh??
Woman #2: Who?
Land Shark: [ muffled voice ] Mrs. Johnannesburrrr??
Woman #2: Who is it?
Land Shark: [ muffled voice ] Flowers.
Woman #2: Flowers? From whom?
Land Shark: [ muffled voice ] Plumber, ma'am..
Woman #2: I don't need a plumber. You're that clever shark, aren't you?
Land Shark: [ muffled voice ] Candygram.
Woman #2: Candygram, my foot! Get out of here before I call the proper authorities. You're the shark, and you know it.
Land Shark: [ muffled voice ] I'm only a dolphin, ma'am..
Woman #2: A dolphin? Well.. okay..
[ she opens the door, as the shark pulls her screaming into the hallway ]
Seeing a ton of intel ops from outside the conflict - We definitely deserve this for snooping around so much earlier, so I'll just throw some numbers and events for the curious minded.
own_tm:2083 (2) | own_raze:1169 (2) | enemy_tm:5593 (8) | enemy_cf_withdrawn:0 (1) | enemy_cf_proposal:0 (1) | enemy_cf_broken:0 (1) | -3510 total
They did 3 more trad hits on the halfers in CR
We did 1 trad on the 14k dwarf. (CR finally gave UF ops)
Meter is now at 6 | 14
Since CF Drop:
Total: -5,468 acres / -1,580,870 nw - CR
Total: +441 acres / -299,543 nw - Panda
Dragons
CR has none, has funded saph pointed
Panda has Ruby, has probably funded the second saph with CR's gold
Fun stuff:
Godly skipped Mafia for us <3
I got my plantar warts checked out!
Munk banned from council channel for trolling godly
Sample troll post
[15:45] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS:CR are cowards (div) has broken their ceasefire agreement with us!
[15:46] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS:A Gold Dragon from CR are cowards (div) has begun ravaging our lands!
[15:46] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS:Jedi Master Yoda (div) invaded Raucous Rainbow (cr) and captured 1390 acres of land. [monarch] ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
This is what I have to deal with:
[15:30] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS: Haters gonna HATE (X:XX) invaded Raucous Rainbow (X:XX) and captured 1288 acres of land. [X] ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> err
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> we can bush?
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> or wait
[15:31] <&munkbot> <meep> rekt
[15:31] <&munkbot> <meep> rekt
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> trol
[15:31] <&munkbot> <meep> rektg
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> fuk
[15:31] <@eragon> such troll
[15:31] <&munkbot> <jwuzi> munk
[15:31] <&munk> REEEEKT
[15:31] <@eragon> got him good
[15:31] <@eragon> well played
[15:31] <&Dirty> haha
[15:31] <&munkbot> <godly> dont ****ing troll
[15:31] <&munkbot> <godly> EVER
[15:31] <&munkbot> <crazy_pete> Lol
[15:31] <&munkbot> <meep> GOTTEM
[15:31] <&munkbot> <zauper> lol
[15:32] <&munkbot> <godly> who started the troll?
[15:32] <&munk> impossible to tell
[15:33] <&munkbot> <snirpsner> Mink
[15:33] <&munkbot> <snirpsner> Obv
[15:34] <&munkbot> <godly> i told you guys 0 tolerance for trolling
[15:34] <@Benjamin> not what godly says!
[15:34] <&munkbot> <meep> what does godly sa?
[15:34] <@Benjamin> in the forums
[15:35] <&munkbot> <godly> whoever did hte troll will pay
[15:35] <&munkbot> <godly> you dont need to be messing wtih me right now
[15:36] <&munk> well
[15:36] <&munk> i dont read orders...
[15:36] <&munk> need to memo me
[15:37] <@eragon> that was in game msg
[15:37] <&munkbot> <godly> ARE YOU ADMITTING YOU DID IT?
[15:37] <&munk> did what?
[15:37] <&munk> not read your msg?
[15:38] <&munk> godly triggered
[15:38] <@eragon> better stop the trolling
[15:38] <@eragon> whoever's doing it
[15:38] <&munk> so he's throwing a fit
[15:38] <&munkbot> <godly> YO
[15:38] <@vir> lets just remove that troll function
[15:38] <&munkbot> <godly> I WILL SERIOUSLY END ALL OF THIS
8 mins later:
[15:46] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS: CR are cowards (Div) has broken their ceasefire agreement with us!
[15:46] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS: A Gold Dragon from CR are cowards (Div) has begun ravaging our lands!
[15:46] <&munkbot> NEW KDNEWS: Jedi Master Yoda (Div) invaded Raucous Rainbow (X:XX) and captured 1390 acres of land. [X] ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
[15:46] <&munkbot> <godly> WTF IS THAT
[15:47] <&munkbot> <godly> hey zauper can you controlt hsi ****
[15:47] <&munkbot> <godly> im not ****ing playing with munk if he keeps doing that ****
[15:47] <&munkbot> <godly> i'll set to VM or whatever
I will step up to replace goldy. No problems playing with danes
So far Munks trolling is the most entertaining part of this war.
Looks like Goldy is just one ms away from VM mode now?
edit: I know first hand the pain and suffering of playing with danes
so what is the troop count and gc situation right now?
But your danes far better than mink though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
Zauper,
For your information we warred BB and Div who both had more than 45 k honor. Where you getting your numbers ?
Now, talking about taxes, should we mention the few provs kd you totally farmed this age ? Oh, that was without ano ! How much you got before you made them all quit ? 15 k acres ? more ?
Its a shame how you talk about my kd and taxes when we actually warred 4 very good kds this age, it started with The U, BB, and twice Div. We gained most our acres in hostile/wars, in a very respectful way, not like you.
We did some ano LDs ? Yes and we did it AFTER you guys did. I mean, I never asked Spartans or Greens acres4cf, they had a free CF. But after you guys taxed them we had no choice but to take the same amount of land or we wouldn't even be in a position to fight you right now.
#stopcomplaining #stoptaxing
See? Too hard for nubs to swallow the truth. Looking at our setup alone should be clear enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
We just wanted to fight some wars. The kingdoms we asked/waved prior to fighting Panda didn't want to war. The gap between us/the rest was too big after the Panda fight so we just didn't bother growing for another fight. In the event we would have won vs Panda, we would have just taken another fight and go from there.
[06:47] <Godly> pls dont give me a heart attack agian mmk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
[06:48] <Godly> nevermind i thought it was you that failed 15 ops on me
That's an estimate, I don't track honor numbers. The second war with div, iirc, they were out of the t50 in honor, or very bottom, which is ~45k. BB was far behind on honor because of the intra's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappodocians
We have gained a lot of land through OOW conflict. As far as I can recall, we didn't make anyone quit, only reset so we would stop taking their land, after they never engaged in diplo. We gained less from the kingdom you're crying about then you did from probably any of your conflicts, and we were more drafted for it than you've been.Quote:
Now, talking about taxes, should we mention the few provs kd you totally farmed this age ? Oh, that was without ano ! How much you got before you made them all quit ? 15 k acres ? more ?
No one stopped anyone else from hitting that kingdom -- div hit in multiple times. The reality is that the offense required is what restrained you, div, or BB from hitting as well. No one else was willing to train 5-600k+ offense on their core to break the bigger provs. No, I don't consider this 'taxing'.
If we tax them, people complain and now have decided to impose 'equal taxes' or whatever. So isn't it in our best interest to play them harder and just take everything? It seems like it is. Certainly in the cases where we didn't do that, the kingdoms have tended to farm more land to you or div (or both). You don't get to complain about us being reasonable in the way we take land, and us being aggressive about it at the same time -- are you trying to turn the whoring tier into the same thing as the warring tier where the entirety of it is about convincing weaker kds to war you? That seems undesirable.
Anri and I discussed the situation with Div, and he initially felt that you guys could keep pace with us if we warred them and you whored instead. How, exactly, do you think he planned to do that? It probably involved attacking someone. It may have been without their permission (you bullies!) or it may have been with their permission (omg the taxman!)
I'm not sure what this means. Does it mean that you're blaming us for not convincing weaker kingdoms to war us in lieu of warring you? Is it our fault we didn't enforce our deal with div before your 2nd war instead of letting you war eachother the way you wanted? Does that make us the 'bad guys' for deciding to stay with you instead of letting you farm past us? I'm pretty sure it would have created more drama for us to follow our deal and begin hostile with div at ~sametime your notice expired. Actually, due to a typo, we had agreed that our hostile would have begun prior to your notice expiring (technically, our deal expired without notice on jan1).Quote:
Its a shame how you talk about my kd and taxes when we actually warred 4 very good kds this age, it started with The U, BB, and twice Div. We gained most our acres in hostile/wars, in a very respectful way, not like you.
Should we have not extended you after your war with BB? That would have been in our best interest. But again, we decided to do the nice thing and give you a free extension when we didn't have to. Very disrespectful of us, for sure. Is it "respectful" of you to force Div to war you when they would rather have warred neither of us? Or is that ok because it's war, and not taking land OOW?
Well, let's see.Quote:
We did some ano LDs ? Yes and we did it AFTER you guys did. I mean, I never asked Spartans or Greens acres4cf, they had a free CF. But after you guys taxed them we had no choice but to take the same amount of land or we wouldn't even be in a position to fight you right now.
#stopcomplaining #stoptaxing
Spartans - sure.
Warlord beaches - sure.
Green - we took 3.8k via tax. You took 7k via tax. Yep, you took the 'same amount'. (I think that perhaps you mean the same amount as Div, who they taxed to after warring)
Speaking of Div, there's div too.
Then there's confessions, or does that not count because it was just a land drop? Did you have to do that as well, or was it because we had waved them a week prior to the first time you dropped them?
Battleships? Or is that our fault for hitting them for 59 acres 3 weeks prior?
Zombiewood? Or is that our fault for hitting them for 137 acres 4 weeks prior?
Claiming that it's 'all our fault' is ridiculous. Claiming that we're 'complaining' is equally ridiculous. All I did was explain why you don't have more honor than us.
Wave or tax, who cares. We know that no one stands a chance and end result is often greater vs one who refuse to get taxed.
I think the problem Cappo got with the 4 man KD that farmed out 12k is that they explored a bit while getting hit?
We had no possible way to train up like CR did in the time CR did because after 3 quick wars we needed some kind of place to pump our KD.
From the outside it looked bad watching how hit after hit was made by a few provs while this 4 man KD did not respond back at all to ingame mail.
There was never an answer to why they explored while getting hit, nor to why they did not retal and so forth. Who played the 4 provs farming out, do you know, what did they say to you?
I won't argue Zaup, I know Pandas and our philosophy and we are playing to enjoy and to have fun.
OOP, we waved the nb 1 kd on the server for war, this is how we play, the aggressive way. We don't call ourselves the Taxmen or we don't bully/pressure smaller kds for land. I wonder how many kds half your size or way smaller you waved this age ? Must be ultra fun to play in CR !
I guess guys can get upset. Getting big is the point, but obviously I respect Pandas because that's how I'd prefer doing it. With Pandas war prowess, it's not just CRs job to be the biggest but to avoid being on even ground with y'all.
Avians can do some amazing things if they're used to full capacity. Keep having fun.
uMadbro?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappodocians
You should have a talk with your former kd mate Vir about him being a bully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappodocians
Why is Cappodocians so eager to start drama with CR?
Beta wolf syndrome. He wants the view to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
You sure? Pretty sure we waved #1 land OOP. Was right on our island ;pQuote:
Originally Posted by Cappodocians
omg a double hostile by BB and Pandas!!Quote:
Originally Posted by protector
CR isnt fun to play in, they are super racist towards recruiting Australians..... ever since platypus left a bit of a sour taste. I think its topsy's fault somehow.
Wouldn't happen with Stinger. Give Mink the boot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
Well, Cappo specifically mentioned Spartans. So let's think about this for a second. Spartans is in the top 5 and comes to me, asking about agreeing to a non-compete deal. You and I, at the end of last age, agreed that those deals are kinda dumb and not something either of us should be making because the result is that the top gets distorted by kingdoms that 'aren't competing' but are screwing things up for kds that are. So we said no and stated that we would be ok with waving them. Ultimately they decided to give us 5k acres instead. That's ok for us I suppose, but we had 2 weeks in which we could have fought them and taken significantly more. In exchange for us being nice, you guys also got 5k acres even though you had neither time nor space to fight them. It would have been significantly more in our interest to just wave them. Then you guys turn around and complain about us taxing them, when in reality we could/should have used the opportunity to gain a 10-15k acre advantage, rather than 0.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Our provs who were mostly hitting them were 3.5k acres with ~400 BPA. Your upper core were around 5k acres -- it would have been much easier for you guys to fit the offense in and hit, frankly. But yes, obviously buying sci is also a useful thing to do.Quote:
We had no possible way to train up like CR did in the time CR did because after 3 quick wars we needed some kind of place to pump our KD.
From the outside it looked bad watching how hit after hit was made by a few provs while this 4 man KD did not respond back at all to ingame mail.
There was never an answer to why they explored while getting hit, nor to why they did not retal and so forth. Who played the 4 provs farming out, do you know, what did they say to you?
As far as who the 4 man kd were -- no idea. Don't know who plays there, and they have never talked to us, really. I got the following message from them, as the only communication:
That's all the communication we received. We stopped shortly after being asked to.Quote:
Subject Ok that's enough now
4+ days is long enough. You've had your fun, accept cf and move on plz
It's possible that we are remembering different OOPs. We're talking about this age, where you randomed OOP and went fort, right? Then the next day you dropped OOF and waved The U? You couldn't have been waving #1 since you were #1 at that time due to your exploring OOP. You guys opted to CF us and wave The U, probably in no small part because you felt like it would be a much easier conflict -- there was a ~100a difference and of course we had significantly more NW than they did. I guess congrats on making the 'aggressive' play of waving the weaker kd that was 6 hours into fort so they couldn't retal effectively? You only had 25% more NW than they did, it was very brave and you deserve respect for it, unlike those jokers in CR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappodocians
Look, it's the smart play, I'm not criticizing you for it. But there's no need to dress it up as being anything other than what it was -- extracting acres from a weaker kingdom with limited options. KDs that have just entered fort are prime targets, they were that, fat, and couldn't retal -- and that's why you waved them.