Simians Vs Sanc, HoH or Rage

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Sure flogger, I wanted to vulture Bio because they don't deserve anything for **** playing Rage in the past. Nice way of getting back at them and picking up some acres. To give you the benefit of the doubt, you had enough gc to fully train up but you didnt get to pump wpa.

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Yeh.. and prolly no gc to fund & kill dragons. Which you had. Thats why vulturing is lame and not something to be proud off :P

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Originally Posted by Proteus

The fact that your boy baka attempts to call Rage crowns 'charity' is a joke

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I invented the term charity crown. I found it sound rather funny. You can thank me later.
ps. whatever Bio's crown last age was, it defenitely wasn't a charity crown and you know that. You just say that because your mad that your Age 52 crown was so much easier than Bio's crown.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Rage single handedely has more crowns

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Yet you act as if you have the same # as Rage. Fact is tho, you don't.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

I don't know why I even bother , aabs will talk crap and blur the truth any time it benefits them to cover up a loss. Why I even bother to reply beats me since no one will be objective. May this be the last posts unless you go and make some sick excuse for why we owned Bio's cows 3 out of 4 past ages.

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You keep digging up the same ol' crap nonstop also, it's getting just as old.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Luckily next age winning wars will be very powerful and pool gains will be gone. Now people will actually have incentive to stay in war and try to win and stop claiming one sided victories without even looking at their opponents papers to adjust for pool gains. Going to be a lot harder to lie when everything becomes black and white.

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Rage is a solid kingdom but stop trying to display yourself as an immortal, unbeatable kingdom. Sure, we didn't win the war against you; too many disadvantages (fact is at least 9 out of 10 wars where its cow vs no cow, the cow wins). However, I didn't find your warring that impressive.. I think it was quite horrible actually. You won because of your cows. Had there been no cows, with your performance compared to ours you had most likely lost.
Was rather amusing when ASF hinted to xlogging when he asked if our munk intel site was the same as the old umunk :)

ps. did you miss this one? --> http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...1#post15173889

not all rage crowns are charities. that would be an idiotic statement.

just all rage crowns since you joined after running pb's into the ground. must be nice though to have so many waves of subbordinates to do your bidding so you can give notice into an active hostile. really cute move this age, showed a lot of grit and balls from ya. shame that your underlings took the ring from you. it must be eating you up inside.

oh and about the whole "we weren't trying to crown" last age thing. you must really think we are as stupid as you or something. i wasn't the one who 7 beers deep made a long ass thread about how no one would stop me from crowning and that i'd "farm" bio. i then wasn't the one who after a few hours of war decided to flat out delete the ****talking post like a gutless coward. everyone sees what a clown you are. the fact that you say "aabs spins ****" is beyond me. thankfully you aren't spinmaster extraordinaire from abs or their days would be numbered. they still have people who don't sound like complete morons doing most of their spinning.

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Originally Posted by sexual harassment panda

not all rage crowns are charities. that would be an idiotic statement.

just all rage crowns since you joined after running pb's into the ground. must be nice though to have so many waves of subbordinates to do your bidding so you can give notice into an active hostile. really cute move this age, showed a lot of grit and balls from ya. shame that your underlings took the ring from you. it must be eating you up inside.

oh and about the whole "we weren't trying to crown" last age thing. you must really think we are as stupid as you or something. i wasn't the one who 7 beers deep made a long ass thread about how no one would stop me from crowning and that i'd "farm" bio. i then wasn't the one who after a few hours of war decided to flat out delete the ****talking post like a gutless coward. everyone sees what a clown you are. the fact that you say "aabs spins ****" is beyond me. thankfully you aren't spinmaster extraordinaire from abs or their days would be numbered. they still have people who don't sound like complete morons doing most of their spinning.

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I didn't read your post because I know what it would say, they are all the same. Do you know why I don't need to read your post. 1) because you are a nobody, 2) Rage has farmed Bio's cows in 3 distinct ages 3) you bent over and gave us a free wave. Until your ghetto actually has a winning record vs us (which will be never) then you can say something and maybe then I will read your post though probably not since you would still be nobody. Save yourself the time of posting replies to what I say.

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Originally Posted by prot

Yeh.. and prolly no gc to fund & kill dragons. Which you had. Thats why vulturing is lame and not something to be proud off :P


I invented the term charity crown. I found it sound rather funny. You can thank me later.
ps. whatever Bio's crown last age was, it defenitely wasn't a charity crown and you know that. You just say that because your mad that your Age 52 crown was so much easier than Bio's crown.


Yet you act as if you have the same # as Rage. Fact is tho, you don't.


You keep digging up the same ol' crap nonstop also, it's getting just as old.


Rage is a solid kingdom but stop trying to display yourself as an immortal, unbeatable kingdom. Sure, we didn't win the war against you; too many disadvantages (fact is at least 9 out of 10 wars where its cow vs no cow, the cow wins). However, I didn't find your warring that impressive.. I think it was quite horrible actually. You won because of your cows. Had there been no cows, with your performance compared to ours you had most likely lost.
Was rather amusing when ASF hinted to xlogging when he asked if our munk intel site was the same as the old umunk :)

ps. did you miss this one? --> http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...1#post15173889

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Prot, you made this same post about 20x now. You, flogger, Baka, and elit all say the same thing..no surprise as you are all on the same side. Vulturing is lame but double hostile is lamer. You never discuss the double hostile part of the story so clearly biased. Even a monkey understands the basic principle of treating people the same way they treat you.

As for all the other part of your post it's all bs trying to deny people the credit they deserve while giving your allies all the credit. The game is very black and white and winning/losing is clearly defined. Trying to deny something that happened is futile. Everyone knows who wins and loses wars, who wins land/nw/honor, and who has more crowns. There is something called an archive. Everything else is a bunch of bs and will depend on who is saying it. And lastly accusing people
of having an "easy" age doesn't say anything negative against them, it just speaks about the competition. So next time you say your opponent had an easy age you are just insulting yourself by sayin they beat you easily or you couldn't provide any competition to them. Think about it.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

3) you bent over and gave us a free wave.

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You gave Inso a free wave so I guess I'm safe to assume you bent over as well eh?

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Prot, you made this same post about 20x now. You, flogger, Baka, and elit all say the same thing..no surprise as you are all on the same side. Vulturing is lame but double hostile is lamer. You never discuss the double hostile part of the story so clearly biased. Even a monkey understands the basic principle of treating people the same way they treat you.

As for all the other part of your post it's all bs trying to deny people the credit they deserve while giving your allies all the credit. The game is very black and white and winning/losing is clearly defined. Trying to deny something that happened is futile. Everyone knows who wins and loses wars, who wins land/nw/honor, and who has more crowns. There is something called an archive. Everything else is a bunch of bs and will depend on who is saying it. And lastly accusing people
of having an "easy" age doesn't say anything negative against them, it just speaks about the competition. So next time you say your opponent had an easy age you are just insulting yourself by sayin they beat you easily or you couldn't provide any competition to them. Think about it.

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I've posted my share of proof for being robbed in an active hostile by Cats. It's somewhere in the thread, go read it.
I've also stated I personally would have dealt with the situation different, but that's just me. I lack time to control a kd atm.

I don't deny anyone credit (I even gave Rage credit for that first war, or you forgot already??). The problem is that YOU are trying to get credit for something you never did. I think everyone remembers the mighty words by you shouting how you invented the cowing book, yet you had to ask ME for cowing advice before you even started to cow on WoL. Perhaps you should give me credit for the information I gave you?? (And yea, I'm sure you've also asked others for advice, so while you're at it, give them credit also).
You're also showing off how many crowns Rage has had. You act as if YOU got all those, yet you only have ONE with Rage.

The facts are simple.
Age 52 you did not war anyone and the only conflict you had was your cow conflict with Bio. Cows where equal size, your kingdom was quite a bit larger tho, which allowed you to bounce and feed harder as Bio. Eventually you'd win that fight - which is logical. DUH.

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Originally Posted by prot

I've posted my share of proof for being robbed in an active hostile by Cats. It's somewhere in the thread, go read it.
I've also stated I personally would have dealt with the situation different, but that's just me. I lack time to control a kd atm.

I don't deny anyone credit (I even gave Rage credit for that first war, or you forgot already??). The problem is that YOU are trying to get credit for something you never did. I think everyone remembers the mighty words by you shouting how you invented the cowing book, yet you had to ask ME for cowing advice before you even started to cow on WoL. Perhaps you should give me credit for the information I gave you?? (And yea, I'm sure you've also asked others for advice, so while you're at it, give them credit also).
You're also showing off how many crowns Rage has had. You act as if YOU got all those, yet you only have ONE with Rage.

The facts are simple.
Age 52 you did not war anyone and the only conflict you had was your cow conflict with Bio. Cows where equal size, your kingdom was quite a bit larger tho, which allowed you to bounce and feed harder as Bio. Eventually you'd win that fight - which is logical. DUH.

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I asked you what faery cow build you ran one age on bf which has different mechanics as it was one my first ages playing that server and I was doing research. I don't understand how you correlate that with teaching me how to cow..the first age I ever cowed in large kd was in Mexico and even though it was my first age I ran better cows than the majority of my allies and equal to that of pulse/zz. So please don't try to get credit for that. Sure everyone learns from others but my mentors happen to be ASF/dorje.

Where and when did I ever say that I take credit for ALL of Rages crowns? People were insulting the kd out of ignorance and I was compelled to remind them that Rage has more crowns than anti-abs of past 10 ages but together. When did I say me. The trolls always try to make it all about me as they're trolling but they're just haters. As for telling Rage had an easy age 52, cut the crap there. Rage showed up and brought their A game as always, came up with a strong strat and never looked back. Trying to deny that took any sort of skill, planning, effort is just being a sore loser. It's never the victors fault if the losers claim they had an "easy" age. The losers should stop whining and try harder instead rather than feel hurt and try to deny others their credit or water down their achievements. We didn't need to war anyone to win. Others would have liked to war, hit, block, stop us but could not. It's their fault not ours. No one is going to land drop to give you what you want - play better and take it from them. The losing side always tries to bash the crown of the winner, especially of you dont like them. In the end, a win is a win. While you can say stuff to make yourself feel better or try to make the winner feel
Bad, in the end you can't change the outcome so there is no need to try.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

I asked you what faery cow build you ran one age on bf which has different mechanics as it was one my first ages playing that server and I was doing research. I don't understand how you correlate that with teaching me how to cow..the first age I ever cowed in large kd was in Mexico and even though it was my first age I ran better cows than the majority of my allies and equal to that of pulse/zz. So please don't try to get credit for that. Sure everyone learns from others but my mentors happen to be ASF/dorje.

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Different mechanics, but the general idea is still the same. I wasn't really implying that I teached you how to cow, but plainly pointing out how you asked others for advice and then throw comments on the forums about how YOU wrote the cowing book. But hey, at least that's out of the way now.. I guess.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

The losers should stop whining and try harder instead rather than feel hurt and try to deny others their credit or water down their achievements.

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Exactly my point. You want to RECEIVE credit for Rage in Age 52, but you refuse to GIVE credit for BiO in Age 53.

What happened to my post earlier this morning?? Guess Proteus the new trollking has powerful allies on this board....

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Originally Posted by Regular Joe

What happened to my post earlier this morning?? Guess Proteus the new trollking has powerful allies on this board....

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If you are implying a post of yours was deleted, I can stop you right there. There are exactly 0 deleted posts in this thread.

I'd say it's more likely you are just getting your threads confused.

Oh em gee, mod bias.

Proteus guide to being awesome:

Step 1: Take an off age and play from phone.
Step 2: Talk **** to opponents on forums for no reason.
Step 3: ????
Step 4: Profit!

Other comments: There is nothing inherently illegitimate about winning conflicts because you have a cow advantage or because you were able to take advantage of good timing. Utopia is not and never has been a 1v1 game. Over the course of the age fights can cause you to be at a disadvantage to other kingdoms not involved, or you can gain advantages (solid wins where you outgain dicing, get a significant amount of cow acres, etc). Insolence waving Rage was brought up, I don't believe it was equivalent to the Rage vs. BiO conflict but that is a matter of opinion, but it is a good example of a conflict that took acres from Rage which benefited every other kingdom.

Flogger takes a view that ceasefire deals are meant so "you don't have to worry about anyone else during hostile/war/eow" as though they were something we do because of how much we like each other and want to be best friends forever. That is not my view of ceasefire deals, and I don't truly believe it coincides with Floggers actions (and certainly not with baka's). I think he is similar to Anri in that he is saying one thing while doing another, when he believes that he can take advantage of the wording of a cf deal he has. Instead I think the real reason we do cf deals is because there is mutual advantage in it, I didn't see mutual advantage in having a deal like Sanctuary's where you couldn't notice before someone elses conflict and therefore BiO had no right to demand it. There is no inherent right to cf's, just like there was no inherent right for us to demand that Simians didn't notice all 3 kingdoms. But doing things that aren't to your advantage like not cfing (floggers empty threat considering he re-cfed us with good terms this round) or giving notice to a bunch of kingdoms generally make you look foolish.

The term charity crown is ridiculous. Very few crowns go to the kingdom that had the best age. In fact having a good age is usually counter productive in the current climate due to conflicts tending to cost acres. As I have repeatedly told people my first goal in playing Utopia is to dominate the top and secondary goal is to crown if it is possible. Considering Abs and its allies has been sitting at 1-2-3 for quite a while I think my first goal was successful. The only people who play for crowns like nothing else matters are people who have none/few.

I didn't play when BiO crowned so I don't know the circumstances but it seems likely that they deserved their crown as much as anyone else.

PS. I do have as many crowns as Rage.

PPS. I don't know if BiO will crown next age, it is possible. Saying that Rage is always going to be in a position to beat BiO is an empty threat. I do not like empty threats.

Lol Proteus

Your hilarity knows no bounds.

You don't read my posts but you took the time to edit yours only to say the exact same thing as usual? Let me guess you were gonna reply but realized it was true. You couldn't refute any of it so you went back to your usual material.

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Originally Posted by Bishop

Oh em gee, mod bias.

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*shifty eyes*
*Walks away nonchalantly with hands in pockets, kicking pebbles*

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Originally Posted by Palem

*Walks away nonchalantly with hands in pockets, kicking pebbles*

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