So you went with a bad setup knowing that your elves would suck and trying for no1 still its like you wanted to fail..
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Way to omit Bio double hostiled us in the past and Baka made similar "we did it because we can" posts as you see him making now.
This post is not to call out Bio or Baka but to call you out for being a hypocrite and a slinger of anti-Abs propaganda.
FYI Rage can handle things themselves just fine, we don't call in help like you do when you farmed Bio's gc after being waved or when Bio razes into your wars.
I think you missed my post page 47 about your so caled double hostile vs rage.
Dont forget when ABS have good reason they do what they think for good, its same for baka. Age 51 you made so much fun on him public and he return favor.
The way you gave notice bio is very lame. How i told already all kds should treat rage same way in future.
Bio loses PR battle for razing in war.
Insolence loses x5 for just being uber ghetto.
So why continue talking about it?
Go cats for WW crown.
Why am I a hypocrite for vouching my opinion? I think you're a sissy for noticing BiO an hour before they go hostile with your allies HoH. What else has to be said about vultures in that nature? You need xxx million gold advantage to be able to beat BiO, probably to prevent having a similair scenario to last age where you lost your acres to them.
Like I said: if this ever happens to you, you'll be first man on deck telling how lame it is. We'll see in the future who the hypocrite is
And rofl anti-abs propaganda?! You're the one spewing your Abs propaganda all over the place playing mr innocent. You played dirty vs Insolence 3 times last age. Dirty in the essence of not being an act of glory, but an act of misery and lameness.
#1: We waved Fury. A few hours later, while no diplo had been done between us and Fury, you wave us with our armies still out. We only had a few ops from Fury, but theres enough reason to see that as a double hostile.
#2: You warred BiO, you lost acres in the process. You sent us notice while in your EOWCF.
#3: You sent us notice 10 minutes after we noticed Fury.
You whined and called me a blocker on #2. What did you expect? To train up and let you go? Especially when 2 or 3 people from Rage spew their ****ty propaganda claiming you did not want a round 2 with Rage but wanted to fight us instead cause we would be unprepared?
Of course I wave you when I train. You're an idiot if you think otherwise, especially after an almost the same scenario an age earlier with Sanctuary (noticing us during their hostile with Pulse). That is your own stupid mistake :)
Same when you *****ed about our notice on Fury which in your (and almost all of Abs) eyes was blocking.
When I spoke with ASF yesterday he agreed that Fury was indeed our best pick for a target. To sum that up;
- Sanctuary was busy, had a small core anyway.
- Rage was larger, had 2 huge provinces but their core wasn't left with alot of acres (thats also why in war #2 we did worse numberwise as we did performancewise, had your core been bigger and your calves been smaller that war may have taken a different turn)
- Fury was larger, had 2 huge provinces and their core wasn't much different from ours.
Fury was our best target choice hence why we picked them.
Proteus: stop pretending to be innocent. Everyone who has half a brain knows this is just political play. Once you get what you have, you show your real self. Right now you're just trying to mate with cats so they leave you alone and hunt your enemies next age.
Probably dont need that the "enemies" are already doing such a good job themselves.Quote:
Right now you're just trying to mate with cats so they leave you alone and hunt your enemies next age.
With all due respect Prot (since your the only one who took part in this 2v1 that made sense and had some arguments to back him up) but it seems more to me that anti-abs side is the one trying to drag abs down to your level to avoid becoming sole target of sticky pawz i the future.
Ofc abs is distancing themself from the situation ... why shouldnt they ? I am sure they had future relations in mind when they were concidering how to deal with cats and their motives were altruistic but that doesnt change anything in the fact bio and inso doubled cats while abs took no action.
Its this kind of behavior you and bio have shown that enabled abs to win every alliance war they took part in that I can remember and to survive this long. Ppl keep talkin mad ****, use double stanards, take things too far and whatnot, make enemies all over the place, and than when you find yourself harassed or short on allies when you need them most and get shafted you blame abs.
For all their faults and doubledealings when push comes to shove I am 100% sure that abs wouldnt degrade themself to gb indie KD over such a minor issue w/o even making sure to get in touch with their leadership on irc to have a serious conversation about problem like bio did. If they were absolutelly determined to gb they would at least have the common sense to make them an offer they couldnt accept before ganging on them. Its called brains see ...
If 2 ages from now you or bio have a shot at crown in y8, and just before your 2 months of boring dicing should be put to work to fight for it your untrained asses suddenly start getin razed by cats whos gona be to blame ? abs again ?
Both your KD's keep pointing out the value of diplomacy but I failed to see any on your part. Abs did the smart thing here, why would Cats care about their motives ?
I am sure Abs is pleased to see 2 oposing KD's shoot themself in the foot rather than to do the right thing and back Simians in their atempt to crown. In all seriousness you 2 can go and act all badass by rk'in cats for the rest of the age but if you guys think you are doing anything other than helping abs your sadly mistaking.
You wanna talk diplomacy and top KD play ? Look at abs and how they dealt with all this, thats pro play ... all you guys managed is to look like dweebs and leave Simians in 3v1.
I have decided. For next age I will recruit Elitbg and baka to strengthen our war forum spam squad - I think they lead the post count in this thread (having opinions on all the 15 subjects that has been handled in here) by far. Exactly what we're looking for in a player, if you guys also wanna sleep in nights (no alarms/sms's promised) and are good at maintaining your own prov without any monarch handholding you you're a perfect fit. Drop by #pinkghetto at EoA and we can have an interview!
Korp, Sheister and citadela are welcome to join too - not quite the same spamming ability but the show of analytical ability has convinced me!
Ernest Hemingway wrote an entire story, with a beginning, middle and end, in six words.
Please keep that in mind when posting, I try to browse this thread but you all write too much. Thanks.
The "2v1 GB" from Age 51:
Rage noticed Dreams
Rage sent 2 hits into dreams (note: NO HOSTILE according to the way Abs has always played)
Bio waved rage and went to FW with dreams
Rage waved dreams
both kds hit back seeing as BiO had open hostile and Rage decided not to close up with BiO before waving Dreams.
Rage decided it was their best option and on one hand was gaining land and on the other hand crying foul on the forums.
Nothing we haven't seen before and brushed off. This is the only time i'm hearing about something from 3 ages later where Proteus continues to bring it up as if it happened yesterday.
There were a lot of technically "valid" plays by Rage between then and now that were dirty, starting with the age after (sending 4 abs kds to weaken bio before the big bank war) and no one complained. I am not playing in BiO anymore, but that notice this age was dirty as hell. Just goes to show that the very nature of these CFs is never obvious and you exploit every loophole when possible: like no notice into EOWCF does not mean you can't notice OUT of EOWCF.
Let this age 51 thing go man, you sound like a broken record. Apart from the 7-8 kingdoms at the top that are already divided into 2, no one cares. I also think it must be an attempt to cozy up to Cats if they continue to do well because you're afraid of being outnumbered next age and your only other options are crappy kingdoms.
You just don't want to stop spewing BS propaganda on here? You still haven't addressed my point. Bio (your ally) double teamed us age 51. You can't say I noticed them prior to their fight with Hoh and fail to mention that. Or according to you is it okay to ****play Rage but not okay for us to playback. Not to mention it was in an appropriate way rather than doubling them back or taking their crown away last age. So stop whining.
Also I like how you mention we lost acres. We Lost 3k acres because they withdrew minting with a way. Id rather win than lose over 3k acres, flogger agreed with this as well. It's also pretty funny when you try to rub in the "accomplishments" of others into our face. Why not talk about yourself? Insolence/Inzzolence has not won a crown or even a war since inception man. I would look in the Mirror before pointing fingers.
Also let's not forget there is an EOA winner interview with Baka where he discussed that Inso/OS was coordinating as part of the winning strategy last age. So yes you attempted to block Fury and OS blocked Sanc.
Every time you try to call out Rage for serving notice to a kingdom that was not in hostile you make yourself look bad. When you neglect to mention that this was a kingdom that double hostiled Rage, you portray yourself as an anti-Abs person who does not uphold 1v1 play. It's all good when your allies are double hostiling us but it's a sheer crime when we give someone notice according to our deal. Your hypocrisy knows no limits.
As for your accusations of "copying up" with cats, that's a load of bs/propaganda. I don't need to do anything as I didn't really have issues cfing them before you guys gbed them. They robbed us lkke everyone else but were willing to move on because I treated them with respect and did not threaten them. I don't gangbang kingdoms because I don't like their monarchs or kingdoms who play 1v1. Bio 2v1ed Rage, Grace, and now Cats..there is a clear track record.
If you want to make posts include the facts or post a disclaimer saying you are running propaganda ops. If someone ****played me in the past they can expect to get it back. Don't. 2v1 and gangbang and you will be treated fairly. I know Prot you prefer for me to eat 2v1 and bend over but that's not how I play. Insolence robbed Rage all age in age 52 when we crowned and attempted to block our pump. We settled our score with you last age when we went FSU when we prevented you from blocking and doing what you want. If you want to ****play, bring it on, you will receive it right back.
AND THE CATS AND THE BiOs BECAME THE VERY BESTEST FRIENDS IN THE VERY LONGEST THREAD ON THIS FORUM :D Good job sillies! Huggles time!!! */me huggles all BiOs*
(For baka: prov name - come on be our sex slave)
To be honest with you only Light and Uhum regularly dresses up in pink. The rest of us just make up stories of pink clothes. Don't tell them though! Come talk to us near eoa Elit :)