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Contracts are inherently undemocratic. They constrain the actions of an individual for the benefits of another. In fact, it seems odd that you would choose that, of all things, to pose an argument against this being fascism. If I were to sign a contract that said I hence forth have no rights, would surrender my individualism, and thus forth adopt an ideology that is inherently fascist... have I democratically become a fascist? Is the contract even reasonable? Are your implications that the power of a contract is greater than the power of an individual? And that if an individual were to enter a contract that is potentially harmful to him and others, that said contract should be abided by, regardless of consequences?
There are laws against such contracts... thereby making them unenforceable and void.
I recommend you read The Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes, and/or the Treatises on Statecraft by John Locke. I can also recommend further reading on the topic, if you want, but the point here is that you simply dont know what you are talking about.
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Does the church go door to door and ask "Are you a Member" and if you are not, pull out a shotgun and blast your head off? It seems, yet again, you completely miscomprehend the actions of fascists to suit your argument. The KD did force grime to adopt their ideology, but the church currently does not
your comparison is flawed. IF you are a member of a church, then the church WILL force you to conform to their ideology, per definition. If you disagree, then by all means leave the church, but that doesnt give you the right to burn a cathedral before you go. Perhaps an even better example, if you decide to leave the catholic church, you do NOT get the church tax you previously paid refunded, in other words you do NOT get the resources/effort back which you put in.
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Similarly, a sports team would never injure the members that "failed to score". nor would it physically punish those that were issued a penalty... a sports team will protect its weakest members. Take American Football, you have all those big meaty guys... and then that little scrawny guy that they could snap like a twig. It makes no sense that those big guys would protect the little one, but they do... they do because he can perform a function they can't, even though their function may be seen as inherently superior to his function. Nor does a business eradicate itself of weaker members. If you fail to come to work on time, does said business place a bomb in your car the very next day? No, it does not.
what the **** are you smoking. Youre just providing examples why Grace should have kicked the guy out. A sports team will kick out players that fail to score. Football defense provides protection to someone who performs a task that is valuable to the team as a whole - which grimy obviously did not. A business fires weak members - just as grace "fired" grimy.
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And your comment about the international red cross? Please. The red cross cares very much what happens to it's members, laymen... like yourself... may see it as a great danger, but the reality is the danger has already passed, or is far enough away to allow safe travel.
Do you walk through life with both eyes shut? Try reading a newspaper for a change.
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Note also that it is not the red cross that decides what its members do, but the members themselves. If they say "no, I do not want to" they don't have to... the red cross acts in the best interest of it's members, and aims to protect them. But the red cross, under no circumstances, is going to be seen throwing people out of a plane to "rescue" the people 10 feet away from a lava flow (note that said people would already be dead). And if one person lands in said flow, they're not going to say "oh well, hey, your turn now".
wat? what you are saying makes no sense.
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instead, pull out a history book, and read.
careful when pretending you know what youre talking about. PM me here on the forums or reply in this thread, and I'll be glad to prove to you in historical detail why youre wrong.
That is all.