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Shari, I like that you brought that out. Thank you, for myself and others. ;)
Ark - Go get em tiger. ;)
Geco - I have enough characters to handle, five is enough; I know... I only have mentioned 4 so far. I might not have to mention the 5th now that you've joined and stirred the nest a little. :) Thanks for that.
LK - Desole is losing interest with me, it's getting too heaven-based for my taste. People rarely play it off well, and it just doesn't interest me. I have too strong of religious conviction to pretend anything else. Sorry, it's not changing. ;) Furious on the other hand, I can put full attention to and feel no remorse.
GI - ... man... that was harsh. GMs start stories and look at it like it is their child most of the time. No one wants to let a thread die. No one wants to let RL get in the way of their relaxing hobby, or efforts to better oneself through imaginative self-reflection and projection. Or simply the quest to be a more effective author. I will not call you ignorant, but I will say that you hurt not only my own feelings, but doubtless many others with your statements and then attempt to say you know how it feels and what is involved. The GM states how much control he has over a thread.
When you join and s/he is saying that as a writer, stay within the limits of the main plot, but make up anything with your character, or to enhance the plot that you wish, you are 'waiving' your 'rights' to your character putting it in THEIR story and THEIR world. You are a guest in his or her imagination. If you don't like it, then you are excused. If you can have full liberty, fine. I tend to like threads with more structure.
Mainly in a loose-based style involving a focus of plot, regardless of the side-plots of the story. There are no 100% shared community values, sociology has told us this. Everyone has their own value system. Just as uniquely, our characters have primary, secondary, and infinitely numerous motivations. Where they place the main story in their hierarchy of motives is up to the player of the character. However, if you are to play the story, you must interact somehow with the main plot, directly or indirectly, or be left behind. You have to make your own way. Understand why the character would or would not be part of the story. That is my preferred method.
That doesn't mean it is the only one I play. I like Ark's ideas for threads, and the execution methods. I think he is the most creative GM as far as execution. His stories are nothing explosively new. It is the effort he asks of his players and the way he wants them to write. He's a very strict GM with a loose-based plot structure. He demands that you make your own way into the story. He not even allows you to create the main plot and story arcs, he invites and encourages you. But his rules are his rules. Do not OOC for nothing; try your hardest; and post as often as YOU CAN. He is not insensitive to the real world, for he lives in it as well as everyone else.
Perhaps, GI, you just have little grasp on greater responsibilities than fending for yourself and finishing school. Some have, as others have pointed out, children, aged parents, sick spouses, demanding jobs in a horrible economy, or countless other responsibilities and issues that come up that are frankly more important than writing on a forum.
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Sorry, I have used my allotted time for posting tonight in a story to posting my long overdue reply to insensitivity. (I'm one to talk, eh? I'm the king of social numbness)
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O snap son you just trashed one of my Desole character's objectives lol
I really didn't want to have him go join up with Ark's groups so soon haha
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I'm just saying that I don't like the religious aspect of it that is forming, personally. Doesn't mean I'm not going to play it. In my opinion, your character is literally crazy. ;)
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I'm thinking of Ark's character as more quasi-celestial beings than actual angels. I used to be a theology major (albeit very briefly), but I do remember learning that angels, while they possess free will, are commanded by God to not directly influence mortals. And the archangels are best described as "reigonal angelic managers" whose reigons are over certain designated land masses. Wikipedia has a ton of info on this kind of thing, and it's a really great source for researching anything you are not too familiar with since everything posted must be cited. Honestly, I used it for virtually every RP I've been a part of. Especially Star Wars and anything high-tech or based off a universe I'm not familiar with.
It makes for better writing when you do a bit of research too :)
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Oh! I thought you meant you were gonna stop posting in Desole :3
I hope you continue, at least for a bit. I got the idea of my character's religious aspect after what I saw from Ark. Yeah, a little idea taking there, but I tried to put my own twist. I mean, seriously, a vampire that is religious? Yes, I know Louis (Anne Rice) sorta was, but I'm taking a diff approach, as in he still believes and all that jazz. Adding the religious aspect (even in Dominic's form of it lol) is a new challenge for me, and though I am -sorta- religious myself (I have my beliefs and such), I just hope I'm not killing anything haha
As for being crazy... good! I was hoping that I was giving that impression. Marcus is, well, in a different sort of reality. Being alive for over 500 years (as a vampire, at least) will do that to ya a bit, but especially the whole Rose thing. I'm glad I achieved that at least. It should get more interesting with Rachael being there, and if our charas get to meet up. Though I'm sure both of my characters meeting Uriel is gonna be pretty exciting too haha
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I know very little of angels. As I mentioned to Rensha, I know very little of religion. And certainly I feel a *little* bad about screwing it all up, but it wouldn't be very fun if I didn't.
Rensha knows.
With Desole, I'm really trying to create a modern mythology. Screw the whole vision of Revelations and our idea of what angels used to be. I really like beginning where things end.
Also. I love Wikipedia. I've certainly used it often for Desole.
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Waaaaaay to many Milk Duds, I think LK XD
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Oh you ain't seen nothingyet, Shari =D
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Are you ready Steve? Uh-huh
Andy? Yeah
Mick? Okay
Alright fellas - let's go!
Oh it's been getting so hard
Living with the things you do to me
My dreams are getting so strange
I'd like to tell you everything I see
Oh and see a man at the back as a matter of fact
His eyes are as red as the sun
And the girl in the corner let no one ignore her
Cause she thinks she's the passionate one
Oh Yeah! It was like lightning
Everybody was fighting
And the music was soothing
And they all started grooving
CHROUS
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah-Yeah-Yeah
And the man in the back said everyone attack
And it turned into a ballroom blitz
And the girl in the corner said boy I want to warn you
It'll turn into a ballroom blitz
Ballroom blitz, ballroom blitz, ballroom blitz, ballroom blitz
Oh reaching out for something
Touching nothing's all I ever do
Oh I softly call you over
When you appear there's nothing left of you
And the man in the back is ready to crack
As he raises his hands to the sky
And the girl in the corner is everyone's woman
She could kill you with a wink of her eye
Oh Yeah! It was electric
So prefectly hectic
And the band started leaving
Cause they all stopped breathing
CHORUS Repeat
Guitar Solo
Oh Yeah! It was like lightning
Everybody was fighting
And the music was soothing
And they all started grooving
CHORUS Repeat
It's it's a ballroom blitz
It's it's a ballroom blitz
It's it's a ballroom blitz
Yeah, it's a ballroom blitz
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Rensha, I just read your post in Desole. WTF? Benjamin Button much?
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lol I forgot about that reference. I need to see that movie :3
edit: damn you for going to Georgia, Ren *shakes fist* lol
Oh, and what do you prefer for talking OOC, email?
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yup. ;) I just wanted to get rid of derek. Wasn't feeling the little kid. didn't feel like pulling him along.
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oh, and the only angel mentioned in the bible as an ARCHangel (look up the translation of the word arch) is Michael. since you like research, Shari, i thought you might like that. :) The rest is Catholicism at it's finest. But then, since we're basing everything that is of christian origin in this thread after catholicism - saints, archangels, etc.- fine, whatever. *shrug*
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Hey now, nothing wrong with Catholicism :p
Yeah, I knew of the Archangel Michael thing, found that out from Wikipedia. I'm not buff on my religion, but I know the essential haha
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Rensha, while that might be explicitly true concerning Michael, many religions still celebrate several angels as "arch" angels due to implicit references. Specifically those who are graced enough to walk in the presence of God.
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there are a few tiers of angels talked about. just angel (the word itself means messenger or servant), seraph, and cherub. I'm guessing you're talking about Cherubs.
Edit for clarification of my former statement in relation to Ark's:
Disclaimer: These are my views on Christianity as I have read from the bible and researched for many years. Most of my life in fact. If you don't agree, that's your prerogative. However, it does not reflect how I think the thread should go. </end>
It isn't like God is locked away from the general spiritual inhabitants. The Cherubs serve him directly at his "throne" as it is explained to humans. Not much is said about seraphs in the bible beyond mentioning them. and normal angels pretty much do the work involved on earth, where it is believed seraphs do his will in heaven.
quite often it speaks of the angelic hosts (the full number of angels; that is, not differentiated into their three categories) congregating before God for various reasons. in the book of Job it spoke of angels coming before God and that Satan was among them to propose that men only serve god out of selfish reasons, thus why Job was persecuted by Satan.
It was only much later, after Jesus took power as king in 1914 (there are a lot of dates in the bible pointing to the day before WW1 as to when he took authority, as there were pointing to the time of his birth and then anointing to Christhood (in 29 C.E. (not A.D.) when he was baptized) in the Hebrew scriptures (old testament)) as spoken of in Revelation that Satan and the demons were shoved out of heaven to live in the human realm without the ability to physically manifest (Thus why they do possessions after the flood, instead of making bodies to reside in as they did beforehand (I feel a plausible explanation for "ghost sightings"). NOW they are exempt from speaking to God, let alone going back to heaven, the demons that is; former angels who rebelled.
(All that to explain what spirit beings, and when, were cut off from God's presence. sheesh.)
I am not saying this to impress anyone. I've learned a long time ago that no one is impressed by me. :) Rather, this is, as I said, clarification of my former statement in relation to ark's, and also to give him reference to knowledge that I've amassed over time. Or anyone else who was interested for that matter. Want to know more about angels or something else in the bible, let me know. I'll be happy to answer questions in Emails, PMs, etc.
outside of the bible and on other religions, I'm not your man. I think you can only truly and fully understand one religion in a lifetime, if even that.
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Remove yourself from what i'm saying about the bible and what I believe and where I think the thread should go. the two are far from the same.
I'm not really a fan of religious story arcs because it's all so far fetched. I'm focusing on very different areas of the thread. more the struggle to live in the world, than even powers or origins of characters. I think at this point, the origins of characters are rather moot.
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Seraphs are hawt! I like me my choirs of angels ^_^
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^ read the post before Geco's if you want to read my edit.
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Ha.
Rensha has the supreme capacity to convey a lot of information, most of which is only barely tangential to the original statement. I lost you after the disclaimer.
Catholics celebrate several "arch" angels. I'm entirely unfamiliar with the general classification of angels, but from what I've read recently, although Michael is the only explicitly named Archangel, several others, including Uriel, Gabriel and Raphael are considered "Archangels" in their close and direct relationship to God as well as their carrying out of God's orders.
But as I mentioned, other than this bare minimum I'm drawing from, Desole was never meant to be a religious thread. All of this has been merely coincidence.
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Despite Raphael and Uriel never being mentioned, to my knowledge, in the bible.
Gabriel was, to Daniel, after battling with the 'prince' of persia. A reference to demons controlling different regions, through the leaders. Directly influencing them, or indirectly.
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<< Warning from Gourmet: I'm now dropping a ranting bomb and just as letter of warning, it's a big one. For your own safety, please equip yourself with enough eye drops to sustain an hour's worth of visual strain, thank you. >>
Okay, I think a lot of you misunderstood me when I posted about GMs and sometimes it's lame when they use the busy excuse. When I said that it was lame how a lot GMs made the busy excuse, I meant A LOT not ALL. The issue I am primarily frustrated with is not about real life because I know that real life gets hectic and people have other duties to attend to you. You people think I don't have priorities and a life as well?
First thing I want you all, namely Rensha and Arkady, to do is chill the fark out. I was not talking about all the GMs, just some, and I didn't mean you Arkady, or you Rensha. What I'm talking about and what I should've said was that I am immensely disappointed at GMs *and* roleplayers who make these great threads and then say that they're really busy when in reality they're just too fething lazy to post. Why do I say this? Because over the years, I have joined a number of threads that had great potential and in a great number of threads that I've joined, the GMs and roleplayers just let the thread die because they say they are occupied with real life. Later on after the threads died out, I discussed with the same GMs and roleplayers how it sucked that the threads they made died and they tell me that they weren't particularly busy at the time and really didn't feel like posting. Interestingly, at the time some GMs posted about being busy in one thread, they go ahead and post another thread a day or so later and let the older thread.
It's like this: thread's strong, character's interact, roleplayers post frequently, and the story line seems like it's going somewhere. Then, all of a sudden, boom! GM stops posting, doesn't say a fething thing, leaves the RPers, and the story ultimately starts to hang as though it were just pressed on pause. First, RPers post a bit more and the characters still interact, then days drag on to weeks, weeks drag on to months, and then the RPers start asking where the GM went. Throughout the course of the GM's departure, RPers start leaving and the thread sinks to the bottom as it's generally thought that the thread and the GM have sunk to the bottom. This is a stereotypical scenario that seems fabricated and it certainly isn't the case for all threads. There are definitely different unexplained variables that go into some threads' demises and different understable reasons why threads fail, but the scenario that I've just described is what I've witnessed in many threads where it was the GM's fault for letting the thread die.
Now tell me, everyone, in this situation, doesn't it kind of feel like a slap in the face when the GM does that? I mean, I think writer's block isn't such a bad thing and I can definitely understand that real life is more important than posting on a forum, especially you need to pay for bills, maintain relationships, and tend family, but when the GM doesn't post and leaves the RPers *and* the thread hanging, it gets pretty frustrating.
Interestingly in some of the threads where the GM just left the thread hanging, I went out of my way to contact some of the GMs to find out what was going on and in a good number of instances I learned that they had a boat load of free time and they just didn't feel like posting. When GMs say that, great! Wonderful! The GM doesn't feel like posting! That's all fine and dandy, but when a GM does that, the GM should at least tell the RPers that the thread should drop because then it would save the RPers time and effort in wondering if the thread should continue.
People have lives and they have the choice to do whatever they want in their free time, but when they leave without a single word, it just gets aggravating to wait for the GM when the GM is too lazy or unmotivated to move the story along. There have been other instances where the GMs and role players have posted that they are busy and then the days started dragging on to months without a single word. If not that, then the GMs or roleplayers kept posting that they were busy without posting a single thing.
There have also been other instances where GMs posted that they were busy and then one day, after on the previous day, posting that they were really busy, randomly start a new thread with a complex story line. I mean I'm not the smartest person in the world and it's not a crime to start a new thread idea whenever you want, but when a GM has enough time to plan another thread and then post that they're busy in another one, it makes RPers like myself suspicious that the GM's too lazy to continue with the story, has writer's block, or some other reason that allows them to make a new story idea.
Now of course, I don't know everything about GMing and it's certainly possible maintain a few threads at once if a GM has enough time, but in my experiences, some GMs starts one thread, post that they're busy, then start a new thread idea and let the thread they're in hanging. And the thread that they leave hanging is filled with enthusiastic RPers. For every case of the GM dropping out and starting a new thread, there are thousands and thousands of different variables that branch off into thousands and thousands of bajillions of other forks of possibilities. From my experiences, a very good number of the threads that I've involved with have failed because the GM was too lazy to keep the thread going; all the while posting that they were busy when really they had more than enough time to keep the threads going. I am surfacing the issue of GM laziness and lack of dedication because many GMs are inconsistent with seeing their threads to the end. I value consistency and dedication because I am a believer in fighting the good fight to see an end to a story or quest. The way I see, if you start an idea, at least finish what what you start.
When I join a thread or write a story, I stay there until the bitter end because I take too roleplaying seriously and I am dedicated with whatever threads I'm involved with. Now of course, I did disappoint Rensha in this thread involving a fictitious corporation by the name of VeriTech and this other corporation, but I'll never ever leave a thread again because I know that it's not fair to leave a GM hanging and even if I have writer's block, I'll write to the end. I'm not the kind of RPer that leaves randomly unless I am cussed out or banned. If I'm involved in a thread, I don't leave until the thread is completely dead, I am incapacitated, or the GM says that the thread is dead. In a thread, I think of it as a ship and even though in real life I'd probably jump a sinking ship at first warning, I certainly wouldn't "jump ship" in a thread until it's figuratively sinking, burning with petroleum, and ridden with poisonous fumes.
Arkady, please understand that I wasn't specifically aiming my frustration at you, to Rensha or to some of the exceptional GMs and roleplayers that try to keep their threads afloat. My frustrations are purely aimed at the GMs that are too lazy to continue and finish their threads because they don't take role-playing seriously. I'm also lamenting the deaths of some great threads that had great potential, but ultimately sunk to the bottom because the GMs or the roleplayers could not collaboratively keep the threads afloat.
I too take roleplaying seriously and I want to see threads move past their beginning stages. When a I roleplay in a thread and discover that it sinks to the bottom, it kind of feels like a part of me just sunk with it. For every thread that I was involved with, I have an attachment to it because the characters and the plots that I created in those threads seem like my own children. Please don't call me crazy because the characters and ideas meant that much to me. There were a lot of threads where some exchanges of dialogue, fight scenes, character developments, and events that I'd wanted to come to fruition never came to pass and for those developments that never happened, I lament.
When GMs terminated the threads because there were not enough role players to continue the plot, I understand and Arkady, are absolutely right when you say that threads are a collaborative effort. Without both sides working together, everything just falls to pieces and the threads just sink to the bottom *sings Sesame Street - Cooperation song*. There are *so many* threads that had great potential, but went to the bog because the GMs AND the roleplayers were too lazy to post. I get aggravated when GMs and roleplayers don't post because they're too lazy to and I lament because some events that I wanted to come to pass, never came to pass. I have seen both ends of the spectrum, both with role-players dropping out or the GM dropping out and both scenarios ended with the destruction of the threads and I'm tired of seeing potential threads fall to pieces because someone's too damn lazy to post or else, not post a farking thing and leave people hanging.
I am not as experienced as some RPers at GMing threads and I still have much to learn about what it takes to make a thread work, but that doesn't mean I have "zero comprehension" about GMing in general or how to make a thread stay together. I may not be experienced, but I have worked closely with several GMs over the past years that I've been role-playing in the URP and I have GMed a few threads, which have failed due to my inexperience. After those few threads failed, I felt that I was not qualified or experienced enough to make threads an enjoyable experience where people could get involved, which is why I haven't taken up to the task of GMing.
Now I will say again, I am a completist and no matter what happens, I want to see thread run to a finale. I don't care how long it takes, it's as Shari said, writers feel a completeness when they finish writing their stories and in the situations where a thread just dies because the damn GMs and roleplayers are too lazy to post, it aggravates me because I want the stories to finish.
People can go to movies, buy games, read books, and get their hands on paid forms of entertainment because they are what they are, they're entertainment. To me they're a different form of leisure and RPing is a *whole* different arena. I don't think I ever asked or mentioned anything about satisfying my own needs of entertainment so I don't know how you came up with that idea, Arkady. I've got my own movies, games, and books and I could goto those for entertainment, but as I said roleplaying is a completely different arena. Something just doesn't quite measure up to interacting with other peoples' characters and interacting with an imaginative world.
Arkady, Rensha, Geco, and some others that are probably lurking around on roleplayers mesage board, I think your writing skills are exception and are probably motion picture quality; I'm not kidding when I say that ;). I look up to all of you and your writing inspires me to improve my writing skills and to continue to involve in great thread with great stories and worlds. My post was not to insult exceptional RPers and GMs like Arkady, Rensha, Geco, and some others, but to bring the issue of inconsistency with finishing stories and to rant on the lazy GMs and roleplayers that let threads die. I'm not specifically complaining about the GMs and role players that really do have real life needs to attend to, I'm complaining about the GMs and role players that post that they're busy, when really they're not and are too darn lazy to post.
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That was long ^_^
I know we are writers, but some brevity never killed anyone lol Just wanted to say thanks for the compliments, I appreciate it.
In my infinite wisdom, I'd say no one need reply. Venting can be good at times, and GI has said what he needs to say. Let's just get back to what we all should be doing - posting - and stop wasting time here ^_^
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GI, I find it a little amusing, undermining and hypocritical that you make a reply to comments made almost a week ago.
Certainly, you're entitled to your frustration, but when you make a comment as you previously made, you were tremendously careless in your generalizations and it was obviously demeaning to those who do work very hard to make things work. That's what made me mad.
You make some very sincere and solid points this time around, even if I haven't had the experience of actually RPing with you in long time, and thus cannot verify any of your more specific claims, but I do strongly suggest that on ANY sort of board, you cannot be too careful in what you say.
When you spoke about GMs, it's very obvious that there are only a few remaining GMs wandering around these boards. If you did not mean us, I wasn't sure who the hell you could have possibly meant. And certainly if you have a problem with a specific GM, I suggest you air it out with them directly, rather than making blanket statements directed at all of us.
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Thanks for the compliment GI. I know you don't ever really mean anything bad. You're just as bad as I am in putting words together into a logical arrangement when OOC:. :) And although you still said a few things that can be a little harsh to people. I suppose I should be the first hypocrite if I said it isn't so. And also if I told you to be more politically correct, because I fight that whenever possible. *flicks off P.C.*
So I guess I should say things like thanks for giving your opinion and thanks for being concerned. Because really. It is all Ark, Geco, and myself (that I know of, I'm sure there are others too ^_^) ask for in our threads and fellow RPers. For people to be concerned.
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On a slightly related, but mostly unrelated note -
SHARI TANA!!!! >_< Hi :) you have an opportunity to post in Furious again, if you have been away for a couple days from being able to read it ^_^ We've moved to the next day.
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For everyone's notice, I'll be on vacation in a couple of days for bout 11 days.. (going down to the Alps...yay!) so I won't post in a while. If I have time I'll get some posts up before I leave. Otherwise you'll know why I'm not posting.
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Oh you just suck, I wanna go to the Alps! Take me with you D:
lol have fun and such, safety and all that blargh
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What? *rubs eyes* I was in a dreamstate battling horrid nightmarish monsters while making fantastic pancakes and wondering when Obama will die.
I see none of it came true... I'll check the thread ^_^
Edit: I don't see what you're talking about, Ren. No one's attempted to ineract with my characters yet.
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wondering when Obama will die
when Obama will die
Obama will die
Wait..... wat?
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Oh, and damn you Vagrant, reply to my PM on here haha
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Well, everyone dies eventually, LK. Even You. There's just some I wish would go before others. I just have this nagging feeling that a certain recently elected head-of-government has less qualification for his position than people seem to think he does. He also has done some things I find extremely questionable as far as nation security goes. Closing Guatanamo Bay for instance.... along with the CIA's international prisons. These are where the most dangerous of terrorist leaders were being kept, mind you.
And now there's another bill in Congress for even more billions of dollars to be spent in the name of economic stimulus (because the last one was so effective). Like... a lot more. But this isn't UP, so let's get off this subject, shall we?
PS: Stop twisting my words :P I would never kill the president.
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um, the police would be talking about the crazed monster that night. and doubtless in the morning. I'm quite sure there is something meaningful to post. regardless of whether it is actually interacting with other characters. people need to make their own way in a story, not wait for someone else.
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and shari.
at least in an obama era, your words would just be considered free speech instead of terrorist propaganda.
who's to say they are the heads of terrorist organizations anyway? They haven't had a trial by an international committee yet. On top of that, I'm sure they wouldn't just get forgotten.
Closing GITMO means nothing. They didn't say they were releasing prisoners, but that they were closing prisons. Stopping torture. i don't care who you are, you don't deserve torture. I have family fairly far up in government affairs who has made his career on terrorist activities and trying to stop them. Not that he can or does tell me anything, but I don't think he thinks highly of torture either, and he's close to the business. it isn't necessary.
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Furthermore, the idea isn't that it will repair the economic situation immediately. There will be hard years ahead. The point is that it will hopefully close the hemmorhaging wound that an inherently bad economy has. We are bleeding money faster and harder the longer someone doesn't do anything about it. Which is fine by me. Reset button. The super rich stay rich or commit suicide. Not a bad thing. The poor only stay poor. But when the economy get's turned around, it is a chance for poor people to go up. Middle class disappears again for a while.
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I'm too full of awesome to ever die. It's a fact :3
I wasn't twisting your wrods, just throwing in some fun political debate into the boards (though I don't wanna pursue it lol) =D
Ren has a point, I mean look at what I am doing with Stacey. She's all off on her own until I feel like doing otherwise lol
Damnit Ren, we dun wanna do the politico thing here. I was making a joke, just to see what the response would be ^^
/discussion, k? kekeke
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Yea... anyway, I'm not expecting anyone to carry my characters, but if Tobi is on the night shift, she likely would not hear much of the recent news till the following shift. I just thought someone had attempted to interact with one of my characters and I was holding someone up by not posting. With the Arkady angle somewhat lost, I'm not really sure what step to take next. Tobi was just someone to play with till Ark got back. Jun is still the main guy here.
My final words on the other subject (and I mean final) is that I may be the only who who trusts thier government when they say people who are locked up are there for a reason. As far as torture goes, nothing is proven, albeit highly suspicious. In my opinion, if my country comes under attack, I don't really care what we do to prevent another occurance. It's not like this is the first time ever torture has been used, nor will it be the last, even under the Obama administration. I just pray nothing major happens in the Middle East to spark a major war. The conflicts in Gaza are proof things aren't going so well over there. I'm a realist, it makes it easier to prepare for the worst. Though I am really thankful all that Gaza mess happened while Bush was lame duck... I don't think that man can resist the oppertunity to score some kind of oil trade agreement. *sigh*
No more on that from me ;) I pwommise
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I am really considering joining Furious and I even have notes written for a potential character, but I don't really know if I should jump in or wait for Arkady to give the thread a nudge before posting anything. Any suggestions?
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To be a complete hypocrite, I've more or less abandoned Furious. But considering, I dunno, my main rule from the very beginning being "do what you will with the thread, plot, etc," I don't feel too bad about that. All I was really doing was being admin. If anyone wants to step up to that role, I would not be upset at all.
In other words, I would not wait for me at any given point.
On the other hand, for those of you who are waiting in Desole, you do certainly have my most sincere apologies. I've been getting my ass kicked by school-work which has most inconveniently teamed up with an ever-lasting cold.
Also ... I think I've written Ishmael into a sort of tight spot. I mainly need the mental time to deconstruct what the hell I'm going to do with that one.
Expect a post on Monday. My school work clears up then.
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Arkady man, school comes first above all things and it's been kicking my ass as well 8). I remember you saying that you finished all your classes for your business or economics major and you were finishing classes for an English major.
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We're arcing the story a bit, thanks to Geco. I've got something in the works I've been planning, but that won't come until after a specific point in the thread. It will likely happen soon, though, and it may or may not tie into the arc that is forming now haha
I'd say jump in, but prepare for a wait. SoHee's going on vac and so we won't be moving much until she can post next. I'll probably put up another post for Stacey, but I don't want to just post away with only her lol
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Geco, a question? We can PRP to a point. Do what you want and just try and estimate what her characters would do. Notice, I didn't say do WHAT YOU WANT HER CHARACTERS to do, but rather what you think they would do. :) You're good at that.
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Yes we probably could, but I asked LK if he wouldn't mind just waiting. Reason being if I know I can get a bit of a sabbatical from Furious I can put the finishing touches on my own thread and hopefully get it up and running. This is one of those things though that needs to have the actual players react because their reactions will give me a better idea of how we're actually going to solve this problem as a gorup :p Part of the problem with the forums is you can't always have pre-built solutions because players can think differently than you.
