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hail absalom

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Originally Posted by goodz

Leaking intel in forums? Perhaps pm on irc having your friend I preaume taunt us etc. I will hold you responsible for any dmg done to me here. This is third lame thing you have done thia age to us.

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You have a taunt banner up, goodz. Everybody knows about it, it's hardly leaking :P

Besides its hardly new news that Mercy has provs with 0 thieves on, they donated plenty of gold i would guess to all kind of kingdoms.

I asked goodz to break all CFs so i can SN the paper or him to provide screenshot from KD pages. Just to make sure there is nothing wrong going on.

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SN mercy:
June 18 of YR6 We have cancelled our ceasefire with The Pokemon Sanctuary ()!
June 18 of YR6 We have proposed a ceasefire offer to The Pokemon Sanctuary ().

All looks legit. Ty Goodz

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Originally Posted by Anri

I asked goodz to break all CFs so i can SN the paper or him to provide screenshot from KD pages. Just to make sure there is nothing wrong going on.

EDIT:
SN mercy:
June 18 of YR6 We have cancelled our ceasefire with The Pokemon Sanctuary ()!
June 18 of YR6 We have proposed a ceasefire offer to The Pokemon Sanctuary ().

All looks legit. Ty Goodz

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ty anri :P
So all what left now is to back on topic and less drama :)

lag double post

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Originally Posted by Anri

Respect - Explain that word to someone that tries to take over a KD and when that doesnt work as planned hits abandon after a few days of intra KD recruiting non stop. She did more then that cause we had a smaller merge that was being discussed and she moved herself and the people that fell for it into that KD. My contact btw. Here you talk respect with me when i am talking about a player i gave a home and a chance after several players messaged me not to do it. From all across the server. Despite of this i gave her a chance and look what happend in the end. You seriously need to check the background of things before you are telling me i am disrespectless.

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The quote was directed at syntico? hi. Your name is Anri right?

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Originally Posted by Syntico

If I've offended any females, llamas, players, b00bies, tampons... anyboody else that would've been affected by my above post, I want to apologise.

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I was not offended, but it was just something I noticed because a number of female players have spoken to me over the years about this strain of intolerance in the community. I am sure people have their justifications about it and arguments about people being over-sensitive and such. It is just something struck me in that comment.

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Originally Posted by Anri

I asked goodz to break all CFs so i can SN the paper or him to provide screenshot from KD pages. Just to make sure there is nothing wrong going on.

EDIT:
SN mercy:
June 18 of YR6 We have cancelled our ceasefire with The Pokemon Sanctuary ()!
June 18 of YR6 We have proposed a ceasefire offer to The Pokemon Sanctuary ().

All looks legit. Ty Goodz

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Legit, hmm maybe but not until the cf is up again.
MA ought to keep a close eye on Sanct so they don't try to filch any gold from Mercy banks(which according to taunt banner have 0 thieves) while the CF is down.

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Originally Posted by goodz

Leaking intel in forums? Perhaps pm on irc having your friend I preaume taunt us etc. I will hold you responsible for any dmg done to me here. This is third lame thing you have done thia age to us.

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Uhhh newsflash: this isn't the first time cows sit on 0 thieves. Sanc was already taunted once this age with infiltrate showing 0 thieves. Rage had their share of cows with 0 thieves as well an age orso ago.

If after all the crap about goldrobbing on the forums, you still don't grasp the part where you can't just sit with no thieves and stack gold infinitely, you're not a very smart person.
Train thieves or gtfo

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Originally Posted by Elldallan

Legit, hmm maybe but not until the cf is up again.
MA ought to keep a close eye on Sanct so they don't try to filch any gold from Mercy banks(which according to taunt banner have 0 thieves) while the CF is down.

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Dorje drooped all his gold and his income is negative or close to it. Now left rage to confirm they have in game cf with sanc too.

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Originally Posted by Elldallan

Legit, hmm maybe but not until the cf is up again.
MA ought to keep a close eye on Sanct so they don't try to filch any gold from Mercy banks(which according to taunt banner have 0 thieves) while the CF is down.

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We break cf because they ask us too

Now leave us alone we more then bend over backwards for these guys who screw about all age.

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

Dorje drooped all his gold and his income is negative or close to it. Now left rage to confirm they have in game cf with sanc too.

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And hoh! And heck maybe pewpew!

Can you show us your cfs with entire top ten. But imo just wait until people wake up. Nothing silly is going on. You call to an end for drama so just wait instead of stirring.

A bug enabled you to steal gc. We get it your excited.

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Originally Posted by prot

Uhhh newsflash: this isn't the first time cows sit on 0 thieves. Sanc was already taunted once this age with infiltrate showing 0 thieves. Rage had their share of cows with 0 thieves as well an age orso ago.

If after all the crap about goldrobbing on the forums, you still don't grasp the part where you can't just sit with no thieves and stack gold infinitely, you're not a very smart person.
Train thieves or gtfo

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Of course with the kinda defense they are running anyone above 4k acres could easily raze their banks too. Not the smartest move when u consider mansoors kd could easily cost Havok 4k acres from their banks....would be funny if that happened because sanc/MA are to busy waring to actually care about Goodz & company

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Originally Posted by goodz

We break cf because they ask us too
Now leave us alone we more then bend over backwards for these guys who screw about all age.

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What can I say, I'm suspicious by nature. I'm just glad I'm not involved in any of this or I'd be on the verge of paranoia :D

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Originally Posted by Anri

Respect - Explain that word to someone that tries to take over a KD and when that doesnt work as planned hits abandon after a few days of intra KD recruiting non stop. She did more then that cause we had a smaller merge that was being discussed and she moved herself and the people that fell for it into that KD. My contact btw. Here you talk respect with me when i am talking about a player i gave a home and a chance after several players messaged me not to do it. From all across the server. Despite of this i gave her a chance and look what happend in the end. You seriously need to check the background of things before you are telling me i am disrespectless.

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This post clearly states that you do not even communicate with your own kingdom players.
1) She did not try to take over your ghetto. She tried to get you to actually care about it.
2) She did not recruit your players. She did say goodbye to a good chunk of them though. Feel free to confirm with your own players.
3) Ironman (the only player you could possibly be claiming she stole) left of his own accord, not at her request.
4) You were paid 200 credits when Memster/flutter left. You were only supposed to get 100 credits. Instead of giving the 100 back, you used them to refill your kd.
5) flutter abandon'd her province. If she were anything like you claim, she'd of deleted it. It seems even she is more respectable than you.
6) Her joining Dopefiends was not her own idea. This was a suggestion brought to her because Dopies did not want to actually disband.

As for needing to check the background of things, well.. look who's talking. You don't even know what happened in your own kingdom. Respectless, idiotic.

As for your earlier posts in this thread...

1) You are incapable of closing your own mouth. You have no right to attempt to tell someone else who they can or cannot speak of.
2) Any hit you put into their kingdom will be held against you.
3) I recommend you take flutters advice and stop directing your kingdom like a ghetto. You want to be this cool top kingdom that stops losing 5+ players an age then you seriously need to change YOURSELF.

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Originally Posted by goodz

We break cf because they ask us too

Now leave us alone we more then bend over backwards for these guys who screw about all age.

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Now, when you came to ask us for cf you were nice and gentle, now you say we screw you? What bug? AFIK you can steal us as well, sanctuary only problem is that they underestimate us and will pay for it! Rage already taste it, now its sanctuary turn , no worries we will get to work deal you as well. Now leave us all alone to fight a fair fight. Your were asked to show cfs, cause absalom kingdoms already have done it to alliance farm gold before war!!! This is only reason to be asked nicely to prove it opposite.
I would like to say that Mothers Advice ex Polar Bears i nice bunch of players and we love this game, so cut the crap and lets roll, few hrs before both kingdoms get kicked out of fort, who will give hostile? Who will declare? Who will win? Thats yet to be found out, till then peace!
Forever MA!

As leader of MW while Flutter was there, there were issues where people were taking sides, but there was no attempt to take over the kingdom. She helped with leadership because I asked her to, and there were talks of me quitting and her and Rob leading, but it was my idea, not hers. She, rob, and spoon left as they all came together. One other player stayed, and an insane person that nobody missed also left, but he went his own separate way. Also, the kingdom did not disband when she left, it's still going strong (I think, I haven't checked IRC in awhile).

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Originally Posted by Ezzerland

This post clearly states that you do not even communicate with your own kingdom players.
1) She did not try to take over your ghetto. She tried to get you to actually care about it.
2) She did not recruit your players. She did say goodbye to a good chunk of them though. Feel free to confirm with your own players.
3) Ironman (the only player you could possibly be claiming she stole) left of his own accord, not at her request.
4) You were paid 200 credits when Memster/flutter left. You were only supposed to get 100 credits. Instead of giving the 100 back, you used them to refill your kd.
5) flutter abandon'd her province. If she were anything like you claim, she'd of deleted it. It seems even she is more respectable than you.
6) Her joining Dopefiends was not her own idea. This was a suggestion brought to her because Dopies did not want to actually disband.

As for needing to check the background of things, well.. look who's talking. You don't even know what happened in your own kingdom. Respectless, idiotic.

As for your earlier posts in this thread...

1) You are incapable of closing your own mouth. You have no right to attempt to tell someone else who they can or cannot speak of.
2) Any hit you put into their kingdom will be held against you.
3) I recommend you take flutters advice and stop directing your kingdom like a ghetto. You want to be this cool top kingdom that stops losing 5+ players an age then you seriously need to change YOURSELF.

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25 Mar 2013, 16:37 Reversed gift of 100 credits from memsterjr09 -100

She took 4 players with her out. That is 160 credits worth.
Memster did not abandon but instead he moved/destroyed one of our faerys.
Ironman was talked into leaving us by your manipulating wife.
Memster is just a kid and does not understand better.
Spoon, he gave her his word.

I also have heard from other players that Flutterby indeed tried to recruit them over.

That Flutterby now leads Malms old players is a joke.
Flutterby was not even capable of releasing troops to tog with her faery between fights.
Thats how skilled she is.

I know its ur girl and you probably dont even want to play with her yourself irl and here. Both because how much drama she creates and second because she is not a good player. I understand you. Work out mental issues and get a job maybe?

I found the dopies contact and invited him into my priv channel. From there on Flutterby made sure that that they opened up a spot for her and the rest to move over all while she was intra KD recruiting.
The deal was make Memster leader of Dopies, instead i see now that Flutterby is leading it.

You send me 80 credits and we will reconsider not killing her. Thats a cheap price. As far as it comes to you and the support of your girl. Come get some, we are a ghetto. Try your luck Ezzerland.

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Melee weapons, Insolence and other KDs she more or less ruined i am more then sure will laugh when we PK flutterby and then beat up your **** KD.
Or maybe u want to go first? We win over you and then we PK flutterby?

U dare to take this challenge Ezzernub?

Can you simians related idiots find your own thread please?

Nothing you have been babbling on about has ANYTHING to do with the real discussion happening in this thread. I'm can't be alone in saying that I'm tired of having to scroll through this ****.

Feel free to discuss this flutterby/simians drama in a more relevant thread.

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Originally Posted by Palem

Feel free to discuss this flutterby/simians drama in a more relevant thread.

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Thats ok. I have pmed Memster and Ezzerland on irc. Waiting for Ezzerland to agree to war us but he will never dare too.
I avoid this thread with Simian related matters from now.

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Originally Posted by Anri

25 Mar 2013, 16:37 Reversed gift of 100 credits from memsterjr09 -100

She took 4 players with her out. That is 160 credits worth.
Memster did not abandon but instead he moved/destroyed one of our faerys.
Ironman was talked into leaving us by your manipulating wife.
Memster is just a kid and does not understand better.
Spoon, he gave her his word.?

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I took three players with me. Memster and I made a pact where one of us went the other would go no question. I gave him my reasons. He asked if the problem could be fixed and if he could help find a way to fix them. I said no because I didn't see the issue I was having being able to be fixed, that was the end of that. As for his province, he was very upset about it. He messaged you and told you how sorry he was that it happened. If we did it out of spite, you would have been down all four provinces, but that didn't happen. Then there is spoon, he came with me, he left with me, same as it has always been. Ironman... he came to me after calle abandoned and said that he wasn't happy in Simians and that wanted to leave and start over. He asked me to go with him. I told him I couldn't leave yet and he said if I ever left that he would go when I went.

What it boils down to is, people who bonded didn't want to be split up. Yes.. that is the nefarious plan.

EDIT: Sorry Palem, I was posting this in the process of you posting that.

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Originally Posted by Anri

25 Mar 2013, 16:37 Reversed gift of 100 credits from memsterjr09 -100

She took 4 players with her out. That is 160 credits worth.
Memster did not abandon but instead he moved/destroyed one of our faerys.
Ironman was talked into leaving us by your manipulating wife.
Memster is just a kid and does not understand better.
Spoon, he gave her his word.

I also have heard from other players that Flutterby indeed tried to recruit them over.

That Flutterby now leads Malms old players is a joke.
Flutterby was not even capable of releasing troops to tog with her faery between fights.
Thats how skilled she is.

I know its ur girl and you probably dont even want to play with her yourself irl and here. Both because how much drama she creates and second because she is not a good player. I understand you. Work out mental issues and get a job maybe?

I found the dopies contact and invited him into my priv channel. From there on Flutterby made sure that that they opened up a spot for her and the rest to move over all while she was intra KD recruiting.
The deal was make Memster leader of Dopies, instead i see now that Flutterby is leading it.

You send me 80 credits and we will reconsider not killing her. Thats a cheap price. As far as it comes to you and the support of your girl. Come get some, we are a ghetto. Try your luck Ezzerland.

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Melee weapons, Insolence and other KDs she more or less ruined i am more then sure will laugh when we PK flutterby and then beat up your **** KD.
Or maybe u want to go first? We win over you and then we PK flutterby?

U dare to take this challenge Ezzernub?

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The -100 credits reverse was forced on you, not a choice. You still spent the creds.

Memster is not flutter. His deletion is not at her hands. Still, I'd say you getting 100+ creds from him makes up for that. If I ever left a kd you can be darn sure I did not give them credits AFTER I left.

Memster is apparently smarter than you think. Regardless, he was not adopted by her nor did he leave because of her. Feel free to talk to him sometime instead of simply thinking you know what you're talking about.

Spoon has been a player and friend of mine/flutters for 10+ years. Why the f*** do you think he'd stay in your ghetto if one of us were not in it? This is not internal recruitment.

I'll repeat for your deafness. Ironman left of his own accord. And flutter did not recruit any of your players. She DID say goodbye to some though. "Goodbye, it was nice playing with you, I just cant stay here" is not a recruitment message. Cute try though.

She did not ruin insolence. First off, you're talking about Snakes, not insolence. Second, I was in the kd and even tried to help lead THEM when she was there. She did not join their LS nor try to help lead them. Funky ruined snakes and he is why I left. Funky was a long term friend of mine before I tried to help him lead snakes and because of that incident I actually don't speak to him anymore. He is a good player and a good friend but he's even a worse leader than you.

Also, you have the monarch (or monarch at the time) of MW telling you you have no idea wtf you talking about. I guess you need to check your facts before you run your mouth about **** you don't know.

And sure. When we're done with our current war, I have no problem with warring you. Lets see if you man up to your own challenge.

Edit -- Sorry Palem. Will stop responding here.

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Originally Posted by Pendel1

Now, when you came to ask us for cf you were nice and gentle, now you say we screw you? What bug? AFIK you can steal us as well, sanctuary only problem is that they underestimate us and will pay for it! Rage already taste it, now its sanctuary turn , no worries we will get to work deal you as well. Now leave us all alone to fight a fair fight. Your were asked to show cfs, cause absalom kingdoms already have done it to alliance farm gold before war!!! This is only reason to be asked nicely to prove it opposite.
I would like to say that Mothers Advice ex Polar Bears i nice bunch of players and we love this game, so cut the crap and lets roll, few hrs before both kingdoms get kicked out of fort, who will give hostile? Who will declare? Who will win? Thats yet to be found out, till then peace!
Forever MA!

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I have no idea what you are talking about.

They asked me to break CF because they wanted proof we had a CF between ourselves and sanctuary. So i broke CF with sanctuary.

Then a second player said I better restore that because otherwise sanctuary is stealing from me.

Was a lose/lose for me i guess?

Uf just let it be, and please lets move on. Lets talk about Drug he drinks alot and needs help.

But Elit is utopia's Robin Hood, so we need Drug to be our lush Friar Tuck?

and for plan B :
SH - "or challenge them to a drinking contest?"

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Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter

I understand what is the problem according to jdorje, what I don't understand is the claim that he realized that game works in that way just now. You never got robbed during fortified? So many people were telling me random noobs robbed Sanctuary, you too said Pulse and Rage knew it (Rage are your alliance mates). Somehow it is really hard to believe you never, ever got robbed before, or anyone mentioned it to you before till now...

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So your argument is that I knew how the bug worked but had our guys undertrain thieves, not do homes pump to instead stock extra gc, and not convert in tds in time for a double-fortified standoff? I don't think it holds water.

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

Dorje drooped all his gold and his income is negative or close to it. Now left rage to confirm they have in game cf with sanc too.

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And your argument is that we are farming gold because we have no gold? We'll be glad to break ceasefire and re-ceasefire with rage, hoh, and anyone else you care to name, if you'll do the same with all the allies of yours that I will name. And then we can do this again every time 2 kingdoms fight.

BTW: kingdoms don't run 0 thieves on cows because they think they deserve not to be robbed. They run 0 thieves on cows because you make more money in the long run by doing so.

Also BTW: targetsharing on the forums is against the game rules. Please stop it.

I, again, call bull****.

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BTW: kingdoms don't run 0 thieves on cows because they think they deserve not to be robbed. They run 0 thieves on cows because you make more money in the long run by doing so.

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Let me correct you, "They run 0 thieves on cows because if you cfed the right kds you will make more money in the long run doing so"

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Originally Posted by Korp

Let me correct you, "They run 0 thieves on cows because if you cfed the right kds you will make more money in the long run doing so"

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We generally don't run 0TPA on cows but we were fixing some trade balance issues and then didn't bother to retrain. We will run high TPA on our cows for remainder of age. We do not appreciate elit target sharing us or accusing us of random BS.

Thanks for your concern. To the random provinces who messaged me saying im farming to my allies your nubs! The only people im farming to are you :(

My largest concern out of all of this is getting messages at 4am that are unimportant! Now im sleepy! If elit just waits till AM or even goes on irc and contacts us can all be cleared up without him accusing of farming and target sharing. We are truely not that hard to contact. irc.absalom.info #havoc

I think everyone(both sides) should calm down a little. A bit too much of a drama. All this is starting to piss me off. Chill!

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We generally don't run 0TPA on cows but we were fixing some trade balance issues and then didn't bother to retrain. We will run high TPA on our cows for remainder of age. We do not appreciate elit target sharing us or accusing us of random BS.

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Yet, ive stolen shinies from your kingdom att numerous occassions with you having 0 tpa to low tpa. All of you Absalom kingdoms are silly, especially you consider thats not the reason you gave us if you gonna lie at least make sure what lies you are using ;)

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Originally Posted by jdorje

BTW: kingdoms don't run 0 thieves on cows because they think they deserve not to be robbed. They run 0 thieves on cows because you make more money in the long run by doing so.

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Yea and that should never be the case. Provinces with no thieves deserve to be robbed by the entire god damn server! ;)
Similar to a province with 0 troops shouldn't sit on 10k acres either, right? Or well, he/she could, but odds are you wont keep your land very long.

Be happy that BB has cats occupied or they'd probably be all over you (Havoc) lol :p

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Originally Posted by goodz

We generally don't run 0TPA on cows but we were fixing some trade balance issues and then didn't bother to retrain. We will run high TPA on our cows for remainder of age. We do not appreciate elit target sharing us or accusing us of random BS.

Thanks for your concern. To the random provinces who messaged me saying im farming to my allies your nubs! The only people im farming to are you :(

My largest concern out of all of this is getting messages at 4am that are unimportant! Now im sleepy! If elit just waits till AM or even goes on irc and contacts us can all be cleared up without him accusing of farming and target sharing. We are truely not that hard to contact. irc.absalom.info #havoc

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I think Elit's main reason for using the 0tpa argument was Sanctuary sort-off accusing him of having cheated by supposedly the bug that was referred to by dorje. Can't blame him and I think it's only a sign of good will from you to have broken/re-cfed to show that you're not.

As for the 0thieves; it'd surprise you but it occurs more often. I've used the strategy to fix TBs in the paste, but that was only temporary. It was perhaps a day.
Nowadays it's more common for the big cows to sit on zero thieves. Rage did it last age, Sanctuary did it this age and now that's you. If you ask me, a taunt like the one done on Sanctuary or you is a good thing; it makes everyone aware you can get something back from the ones that keep feeding on you.
If you want to hoard gold, you better protect it. If you think you can sit on zero thieves for weeks, deal with the consequences of being robbed once you're caught.

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Originally Posted by prot

Yea and that should never be the case. Provinces with no thieves deserve to be robbed by the entire god damn server! ;)
Similar to a province with 0 troops shouldn't sit on 10k acres either, right? Or well, he/she could, but odds are you wont keep your land very long.

Be happy that BB has cats occupied or they'd probably be all over you (Havoc) lol :p

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Cats did rob us, while our cow(s) were on 0 thieves. They didn't bother robbing the cows. Had they done so they'd have gotten less money per op, and we'd have not minded as much since cows have tons of extra gold anyway.

The reason cows don't need thieves is similar to why they don't need defense: because there are so few of them, that it's easy to ceasefire the relevant opponents that might provide a threat. This is an artifact of a broken pool system. With the exponential explore costs and median multiplier, only a few of the biggest kingdoms can afford to run cows. And if you don't have 3-4 cows by this point in the age, you have 0 chance of winning land crown. (Cow no longer means what it used to, though: now it's just any 14k+ province that can no longer explore.)

Regarding pulse knowing of the bug, I think we had a double fortified standoff with rage this age for 3 days, with 5 really pumped and prepared halfers right away.

I don't remember hearing any reports or me making many orders to rob into it. Certainly nothing rampant or suggesting that we knew of it. Would have played tons of things differently I imagine.

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Originally Posted by flogger

Regarding pulse knowing of the bug, I think we had a double fortified standoff with rage this age for 3 days, with 5 really pumped and prepared halfers right away.

I don't remember hearing any reports or me making many orders to rob into it. Certainly nothing rampant or suggesting that we knew of it. Would have played tons of things differently I imagine.

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In our standoff with simians we gave ops well on very low TPA at start of age assuming fortified would protect us. They hardly opped us so I suppose just thinking your getting -50% tpa is generally enough to prevent people from going wild in fort.

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Originally Posted by prot

I think Elit's main reason for using the 0tpa argument was Sanctuary sort-off accusing him of having cheated by supposedly the bug that was referred to by dorje. Can't blame him and I think it's only a sign of good will from you to have broken/re-cfed to show that you're not.

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My point is if he simply asks rather then publicly leaking our intel and saying we are farming it is very easy for us to prove we are not. This is not the first gripe we have had with how elit handles himself so meh. Live with it I guess! Only a few of us up here so you run into issues over and over with same people :)

odd ... 10 pages between my odd ....

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Originally Posted by flogger

Regarding pulse knowing of the bug, I think we had a double fortified standoff with rage this age for 3 days, with 5 really pumped and prepared halfers right away.

I don't remember hearing any reports or me making many orders to rob into it. Certainly nothing rampant or suggesting that we knew of it. Would have played tons of things differently I imagine.

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Last age is what I am referring to. If rage got +100% wpa and tpa every time you entered fortified as some claim, I think you both would have noticed. And I'm surprised you didn't notice that the -50% tpa/wpa was missing. However it was pointed out you (pulse) had a big tpa/wpa advantage so maybe that negated it.

Typical abs vs. non abs thread with lots of smack talk. I've seen a lot of X vs insert-Abs-kd-name-here and typically has the same result, Abs kd wins and thread goes quiet. I don't expect this to be any different.