Proposal to end he Awar

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Originally Posted by Mithras

Seriously?

We put this discussion to rest 10 pages ago. There was no agreement on a prov crown for Simians. Not in the diplo and not in the deal, neither the one confirmed on irc or the exact copy agreed to ingame.

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You see what they choose that you should see and is total careless to what actually went down in first steps diplomatics. All talk that happend was based on us getting prov crown and not fighting/warring BB to steal your precious crown from beneath you. Had you proceed to interact vs us we had banged you last age. The entire deal was made upon us leaving walk over and wanting to finish peacefully, we accepted defeat in exchange for the prov crown to Vir.

I can understand that the deal itself can be manipulated since its not mentioned in the ingame deal how protector stopped his all ready almost 2 week prep to make #1 bank on server, a bank we had the power to wave and take down, BBs choice of declaring us or getting trashed in hostile to EoA to possible make us crown was not part in the ingame deal that you probably read. The part where Protector, ASF and me started to dip when it was all ready settled we would finish #2 in exchange for the prov crown. Whatever dip happen after that was just about what amount Dorje needed in acres to feel secure about not getting dealbroken by us.

You know nothing Mithras so i have no special need to tell you all of this.

I sworn i would get revenge on Dorje for it, because i know he is the man behind it.

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Originally Posted by flogger

And right away, what did I say? "If you hit into my end of war, you die". Before knowing who it was and when it just looked like some ghetto idiot, that was my reaction. Our council logs have been read by neutral parties and that confirms that being our stance from the get go. Before all this talk about legacy and hating abs and all this and that is just nonsense. The last diplo request was for him to take himself out, you refused now here we are. The rest is just spin.

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Never questioned your response. Facts are that acres were offered to compensate for the damage and you didn't take them untill several days later. Not contesting anything there.

I don't know about you guys, but the upcoming bloodbath/coupe de grace is going to be so much sweeter with this fake martyrdom. You would think they would stop the charade but instead they continue to pour gasoline on themselves. No one believes you anymore, your feeble attempts at recruiting more people are over, they don't believe your lies anymore either.

Mithras confirmed John Snow.

The offer was not made to me and I was the only one around. I don't have that offer when I order the switches, which you guys keep on claiming. Fact: I don't. Protector wasn't available. The consequences of Bour's actions for us are what they are. He didn't even bother to make that same offer to me. You then blame us for not taking that deal he offered because it was "fair". None of this was fair. Us getting hit into eowcf isn't fair, us being asked to take some bs deal that will take time to come to fruition is not fair, us having lost tons of gold stock, expensive EPA, WPA, and science because of his actions are not fair. Him taking the suggestion of some Emeriti leaders and doing it in the first place is not fair. And we're the bad guys? Dream on.

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Originally Posted by Mithras

Never questioned your response. Facts are that acres were offered to compensate for the damage and you didn't take them untill several days later. Not contesting anything there.

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How do we take acres when we are fat from war and in eow. Oh and then they went to war as well.

I miss the dog pictures.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

Mithras confirmed John Snow.

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He knows what people want him to know only

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Originally Posted by Anri

All talk that happend was based on us getting prov crown and not fighting/warring BB to steal your precious crown from beneath you.

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This is, unfortunatly you living in your bouble. All talk (except the things you talked about) was about Emeriti securing the age without wierdness from simians or agreeing t giving away the prov crown. Had you payed attention you would have noticed the motives of the other ppl around you and not just your own, The fact that I seem to be more aware about what happened after reading the logs than you are after actualy talking there is worrysome on your behalf :(

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Originally Posted by SnirpsneR

How do we take acres when we are fat from war and in eow. Oh and then they went to war as well.

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You have farmed free acres of more kingdoms than I can count this age. I got high thoughts about your skills at farming free acres. That never worried you.

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Originally Posted by Pale

The deal was not offered to us before any conversions, considering I'm the steward and had no message about it. I got a phone call that woke me up concerning the razes and the only information I had is your first message about "act fast". I ordered upping drafts and some build changes, got who I could online which was most of our top. We didn't find out about your "offer" till well behind the fact. Keep spinning it bro.. Protector was asleep and wouldn't even see messages till hours and hours later. You can offer more than was taken all you want, but in post-war cf it will take quite a bit of time to get that stuff back and I did what any leader would do in that situation, protector ourselves. You'd already crossed the line, any assumptions about what could happen now to us was based on the information we had at the time. Your offer wasn't on the table yet until protector woke up.

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I have a suggestion for you: talk to flogger and protector. Flogger showed up ~10 minutes after the razes and I told him but all he wanted to do was to kill me. When protector got on, like 1h after the razes, I offered everything to him.

I also have a question for you: Why did you ignore my message?

Kinda hard to wave u and take that free land. So lesson is don't raze in eow.

Wtf does he have to reply asap? Prot would've been on 8h later so he could've dealt with it.

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Originally Posted by Mithras

Never questioned your response. Facts are that acres were offered to compensate for the damage and you didn't take them untill several days later. Not contesting anything there.

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So if you never questioned the response and every conversation of diplo with me involved me wanting someone punished and you refused every such suggestion, what's the issue that we have? We wanted someone to punish and you didn't want to have anyone punished so can't we all just shut up and slug it out? If that's not appealing then I'd also recommend just shutting up and telling leshrak to say yes to the deal on the table.

I'm on my way to bed on my phone and I hate using my phone for uto? It's eowcf. What on earth can be so important that I can't get a decent nights sleep or wait for protector to come on and deal with it. You said you sent him a message. I figured he could handle it when he woke up. You can't blame me for your honourless actions bud. I was tired and wanted to sleep. It wasn't anything that couldn't wait as discussed earlier.