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29-12-2015, 17:00
protector

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

Average Opponent Relative Size 89%
need I say more?

Average Opponent Relative Size 61%

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29-12-2015, 17:02
protector

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Originally Posted by Feint

Don't wan. Unless u fund me gc the entire age like what u do with FS so they can win all the way. But I know u wouldn't . U biased. I cannot be a good and obedient dog like FS .... Meow

You can just steal like others.
29-12-2015, 17:11
Aranfein

What's with the double posts prot? .. your morals are **** and I'm just sorry no one could see it.

You twist and turn things to suit you, which is your right as you are the strongest or rather have the strongest alliance... im just wondering how things are when majority of war kds sees trough your webs and ld to your opponents age after age?

I'm warring lots when im bk next age I got 3 early wars agreed with CR and Panda b2b, and I do owe ED my honour so they get 3 wars later age for the lols. .

Oh and happy new year everyone, you too prot it's only a game afterall.
29-12-2015, 17:28
umajon911

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

What's with the double posts prot? .. your morals are **** and I'm just sorry no one could see it.

You twist and turn things to suit you, which is your right as you are the strongest or rather have the strongest alliance... im just wondering how things are when majority of war kds sees trough your webs and ld to your opponents age after age?

I'm warring lots when im bk next age I got 3 early wars agreed with CR and Panda b2b, and I do owe ED my honour so they get 3 wars later age for the lols. .

Oh and happy new year everyone, you too prot it's only a game afterall.

wait for it...... wait for it...... BURNNNNNNNNN!!!!!
29-12-2015, 17:30
Korp

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

What's with the double posts prot? .. your morals are **** and I'm just sorry no one could see it.

You twist and turn things to suit you, which is your right as you are the strongest or rather have the strongest alliance... im just wondering how things are when majority of war kds sees trough your webs and ld to your opponents age after age?

I'm warring lots when im bk next age I got 3 early wars agreed with CR and Panda b2b, and I do owe ED my honour so they get 3 wars later age for the lols. .

Oh and happy new year everyone, you too prot it's only a game afterall.

Late Xmas gifts for a lot of kds apparently.
29-12-2015, 17:33
Palem

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Originally Posted by duckels

This is by far the biggest fake war cover up thread i've seen yet :)

lol
I spit my drink all over my keyboard, jerk
29-12-2015, 17:37
Goodwitch

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Originally Posted by jmiedema

The point is that even with arranged wars where both kd's are to have a set acreage (which both kingdoms adhered to) FS still gets put in a bad light due to "relative KD NW". We had a set war with Ascension and a set War with Green, both kd's started war with the same acres as us and a week or so prep time. Both kd's started the war about 90-95% of our size if i recall. That doesnt mean we ghetto bash, that just means we prepared harder and deep drafted more. An important thing to note and I mean VERY important is that Undead leets are very networth inefficient, so when we pump ourselves to 17 elites per acre, and have a horse for every one of those elites (razing those stables later for other buildings) then yes, we are going to be very NW inflated (most of our undeads were 230-240 NWPA at the start of both of those wars before getting hit at all.

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This would have been an excellent and acceptable explanation. Just that. No excuses, no lies, perfectly plausible.
I separated this from the rest because then you went back into the excuse department.

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Originally Posted by jmiedema

I am in Leadership within FS, so regarding the accusations of the Loiso/Francis Monarchy deal... It is tough because Loiso is the Founder, and is still the overall monarch of FS. Francis is in charge of diplomacy. This means that yes Loiso (who was monarch all age) is the monarch because he runs the kingdoms and is in charge of the Leadership Team of FS, but then as part of that Leadership team Francis is delegated to do diplomacy and other war related tasks.

I agree that it is confusing to message us if you arent in a kingdom who knows this. I have also submitted a request that for next age whoever is in charge of diplomacy will also be the in-game monarch. Hopefully this will be done so that confusion doesnt take place. I know any time I personally was messaged in a diplomatic way (when i was steward for some of the age) I would respond back as soon as I read the mail and tell them to please message "XXXX(Francis/Sampuan" for any diplomacy related messages.

The other thing I just want to mention is that this whole "bullying" thing. Bullying in Utopia is frowned upon but not an actionable offense. Also, doing 1 wave (or more while other kd stalls diplomacy) against provinces that are within 110% relative NW of your provinces is not bullying, and it is not bottom feeding. Those are legit hits.

Now in my eyes bullying is when you hit into a kingdom that is much too small to consider warring you, and they do not hit back and say something like "OK you got your wave in, can we please CF and move on" and then your kingdom says, "nope we are going to just keep waving you until you retaliate or take it to war". Hitting a kingdom, then opening up diplomacy to end the conflict is not bullying.

this is awesome, I hope they listen to you. Whoever does the diplo should be monarch or as you stated at least let the other kingdom know who to do diplo with, regardless of retals or not. Or alternatively message your diplo guy and tell them you got mail and they can answer.

I did not get a response at all for I think 20 hours or so. In that time I only got one response from a player referring to the banner and telling me I should be nervous..not quoting, but it was along those lines. I remember cause stuff like that doesn't happen every day.

Our definition of bullying may be slightly different but that's okay, we don't all have to think the same.
I do believe that even in your case the SS thing was a case of bullying then though. I don't have the news , only going what was said , so correct me if I am wrong. FS waved SS. SS said can we CF. FS said no, only if you don't compete for honor and you can't war again till eoa and you can't war any of our allies.
Had FS said, okay we waved , we cf and move on, chances are this would have never even made the news.

And the thing you said about bullying not being a actionable defense...says who? where is a copy of those rules? Who mad those rules? How many kingdoms know about these rules?
I know that someone , sometime, somewhere made a set of rules. I know from heresay what they are. But at no time have I ever seen a written up set of rules, nor have any new players to the game and I doubt it for a lot of the players that have been playing for a few ages. These are the rules of the Alliance as far as I know. However none of the kingdoms hitting are members of said alliance. I am not saying they don't have merit. But what are the chances that any of those kingdoms hitting would get the support of the alliance if they were in the same situation. I might, but only cause I have some friends. But if someone hit into for example ruthless war, would the alliance come and raze their opponent? Would you?
I am not making excuses for my actions. Razing into your war was wrong, I was angry and defending my kingdom.
What I don't understand is why bullying is not an actionable offense. While hitting into a war, effects one war, bullying will effect the whole community. Is a war more important than the health of Utopia? And if people stood up and said, we want this to be an actionable offense, why couldn't they make it a law. A system of law is only binding if brought forward by an authority, who is this authority? Is it the current crown holders that hold justice in their hands? Do they rule Utopia? If that is the case , then it would be super awesome if that was common knowledge.

I started quoting all the bs FS players spewed after these 2 awesome posts. But then decided against it, they just again destroy everything that is good about FS. Much respect jmiedema!

As far as Protector...not really something to be proud of. I told you that this kind of thing will some time bite you in the rear. I said it as a friend. You shot the messenger.
29-12-2015, 17:38
umajon911

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Originally Posted by Palem

lol
I spit my drink all over my keyboard, jerk

PLEASE tell me it wasn't soda...that burns! :-0
29-12-2015, 17:45
Aranfein

Aiming for 10 wars Korp, wondering if we can find a ghetto mid age to get honour up for ED and for CR & Panda at least we know how to empty pool and wave... But as most know we give up after 24hrs and wd when acres are gone, sometime after the 48hr mark.

P's. Umajon911, fact is you've spit/put far worse over your keyboard ;)
29-12-2015, 17:55
umajon911

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Originally Posted by Aranfein

Aiming for 10 wars Korp, wondering if we can find a ghetto mid age to get honour up for ED and for CR & Panda at least we know how to empty pool and wave... But as most know we give up after 24hrs and wd when acres are gone, sometime after the 48hr mark.

P's. Umajon911, fact is you've spit/put far worse over your keyboard ;)

Its happens when you play with a KD that cant win wars ;-) HEY ALWAYS NEXT AGE :D
29-12-2015, 19:11
markers

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Originally Posted by duckels

This is by far the biggest fake war cover up thread i've seen yet :)

Touche
29-12-2015, 19:14
markers

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

disagree, that is markers.. we are getting one more crown than we normally would, whenever he tries some shenanigans against us..

Actually I'm just the person who messages in the forums. So things tried are not actually my call, however I'll state again we did not fake war nor initiate a gb. No matter how badly you want me to be your dirty little bad boy
29-12-2015, 19:26
Loiso

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Originally Posted by markers

Actually I'm just the person who messages in the forums. So things tried are not actually my call, however I'll state again we did not fake war nor initiate a gb. No matter how badly you want me to be your dirty little bad boy

Not initiated... did not took any part... did not tried to benefit from it... just a victim of unfortunate events. Dont you think that those things happen abit too often?

P.S. Goodwitch are you working on the survey how we dealt with KD we waved? When you plan to present the results?
29-12-2015, 19:40
Goodwitch

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Originally Posted by Loiso

Not initiated... did not took any part... did not tried to benefit from it... just a victim of unfortunate events. Dont you think that those things happen abit too often?

P.S. Goodwitch are you working on the survey how we dealt with KD we waved? When you plan to present the results?

sure thing sweetheart I have no other things on my schedule than to spend it proving something I know to be true...(pls read that with a very sarcastic tone of voice)
I should have added instructions on how to read my original statement. Sorry I did not know you were unfamiliar with rhetoric. In the future when dealing with you I will do better. Do you need help with anything else? (add sarcastic tone here as well please)

Too often? did I miss something? You accuse SS of repeatedly calling for gb now? (add puzzeled facial expression)
If I recall they are not the ones that show up every age as a kingdom that sh1tplayed...you on the other hand...(insert pause to let you ponder how often people have accused you of sh1tplay)
29-12-2015, 19:43
duckels

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Originally Posted by markers

Touche

I was originally confused why Francis was asking us to raze in to him during war, but it all came clear around page 61.

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