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Wow Bishop, good information. If you could, do share those logs from 7th to 5th day since you shared for the last 5 days which only 1 day was in war and remaining 4 EOWCF.
So device 2 had 98 hits on account 1 and 83 hits on account 2....
Let me help to explain this embarrassing moment;
The married couples are always together. So after logging in acc1, pass to spouse to log in acc2. and repeat that. 5 days is 120 hours, make 98 and 83 hits for log ins... thats closed to 1 interchange of logging in every hour without sleep. So this is not called Xlog? This is totally cheating! And that is looking at that Device 2 only.
Sad, most of the Jesters already banned from forum I guess... those who were so confident they never Xlog, silent now huh...
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below are the usage hits of each device over the last 5 days.
deviceid acc1 acc2
1 ---- 19 ----9
2 ---- 98 ---- 83
3 ---- 14 ----179
4 ---- 11 ---- 14
5 ---- 1 ---- 0
This cant be. Its just not possible. I am curious how the log shows we both logged into the 3 devices when we didnt. I went to bed with a migraine lastnight because of this, as im sure others did too. We are not ready to let go of utopia but dont want to put our kd in this position again. Theres a reason people play this game for years and years, because its the best game in the world. Surely there has to be some way this can be avoided in the future. I dont like cheaters just as much as anyone else. But there is an issue here when people who arent cheaters get the boot...utopia is losing players because of it. I read the interview with sean and brian and it seems this has been an ongoing issue. You are probably exhausted with this, bishop. I want to thank you for taking the time to look deeper into the logs and for deeling with the drama. What is our next step? Our options seem to be 1. Make new pv's and get deactivated again or 2. Leave utopia...Quote:
the other 4 are used by each account.
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Ok the system is messed up. The one device is my laptop and the other 4 are the phones and tablets, that your system Obviously cant tell appart. I dont think were stupid enough to just grab what ever divice we fell like grabing at the time and logging in.... And Obviously your not willing to look into it so we can countue on playing... Its not like these are new devices either, been playing on them for over a yr now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop
Tbh I can see your point, nobody trying not to get caught could be this dumb lol
Device 5 is a laptop, the other 4 are separate mobile devices. They are quite easy to tell apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly2342
What do you mean, logging in at the same time? Oh people your comments are so frustrating lol there is no walk of shame. There are no cheaters in jesters. Just a great kd with excellent team work and leadership. We dont log in on each others devices. I log in on my computer at work sometimes, on my tablet and my phone. He logs in on his laptop, his tablet, and phone. Idk how the logs can show otherwise.Quote:
logging in together.
That is what i just said, and we got deleated for using phones and tablets. Only if my laptop could fit in my pocketQuote:
Originally Posted by Bishop
and now let the pity comments begin!!!!
Thats not why you got deleted. I'm finished with this thread now.Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly2342
Your option is to play only one acc and stop x logging. Stop being dual personalityQuote:
Originally Posted by Frugal Baggins
Sorry, I'd do it again though, that was a great laugh.
Cheating or not, cheer up, Utopia is nothing to get a migrene over, although I've caught myself being too emotionally invested into it here and there as well.
Patrick thats not nice. This is very upsetting.
First time bishop willing to show evidence in forum.. What a breakthrough... Steve and Krissy , I pity you. There is no shame. Because u are innocent. We all know that. Numbers don't show anything. Jesters always the best. There are still many couples in jesters showing good examples and not getting swept away. U are just the unlucky one.
Btw , can I ask, did ur sitting of max 21 days fully used thus need to log in and out so many times on a device ?
Also I am curious what are the log in pattern for u two when posting in utopia forum
Is it the same pattern as shown in the game itself
Bishop you still havent posted the actual logs. We dont do what we are accused of doing. There must be a glitch.
Look im in my car sitting here waiting, let me check utopia. grabs my phone. Look were in war let me bring my tablet with me ao i can get attack out quicker. Look im at home need to get my self spells up real quick grabs my phone or tab what ever is closer. Ohhh look im home need to attack on 20 min let me log with my computer to get attacks out and auto posted.
If we go by those logs then we must of been doing this for the last 4 ages
Good questions justice. Steve was sitting another province recently, i wonder if that had anything to do with it?
If u have 4 mobile devices: 2 tabs 2 mobile. Why 1 device need to login for 2 accounts when u could obviously just use ur own phone to log in urs. Why do u need to pass ur phone to another to log in? With that evidence is not cheating then what is?
We dont! We use seperated devices.
Right, too bad it is what it is. So now it's time to say that bishop is giving false information then. Wow...
Seriously, i would get pissed if steve tried doing something with my tm lol he is an attacker. We dont play for each other, we dont login on same devices. This is infuriating and let me remind you that the logs have yet to actually be posted.
This was rich. While publicly berating anyone who posted here, Jesters got 2 invites a few hours after the deletion. Only way someone does that is if they are guilty.
I don't blame someone for taking a shortcut when there's someone halfway around the world calling you for a 3 am hit. But when you're caught just own up to it. It'll save everyone involved a ton of needless aggravation.
Didn't you read the rules? There is no reinstating even if it was a deletion made by mistake if the matter regards xlogging. Ofcourse they bought 2 invites, question is can they get those 2 players back or do they need to recruit new players?Quote:
Originally Posted by sexual harassment panda
No one is counting on any type of mercy.
Panda, we didnt cheat. So we will not be owning up to anything thank you.
Look, u have been deleted like 24 hours already. Last 5 days logs means only 4 days if that's what Bishop meant. So device 2 logged in approx 170times in 96 hours? Come on. I'm considered active in game but I at most log in 3-5 times in 24 hours because it doesn't log me off so frequent if u are that active. So, why the need to log out and log in for one device? It's obvious that to get in from account 1 to account 2, u need to log out one and that's how it made so many hits in just 4 days...
Doubt anyone of you will admit it right now that ur mates have gone so far to try convince Bishop.
Shameful now that u alrwady put ur heads up the chopping board. Can't step down right now.
Piern, the rules contradict themselves because they also say you will be reinstated.
Wee, theres no shame and nothing to admit. We leave utopia page open on our devices which obviously will log us out after a certain period of time. We never click "log out" always just "log in" after chrome has logged us out. And again, on our own seperate devices.
Wee, you log in 3-5 times in 24hours? I am a tm. I micro manage which is why my pv is(was) so awesome.
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Originally Posted by Wee Sin
Are "usage hits" the same thing as log-ins?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop
I think the case is about over soon..so what should all couples in utopia do as a reminder?
Stick to their own machine and don't let anyone logs in from there?
That would be the case, make sure to let Support know that you are living togheter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathen
The method used by Bishop for identifying devices uses circumstantial evidence. It is possible for two different devices to generate the exact same fingerprint. It is possible for one device to generate multiple fingerprints. The best advice for couples playing Utopia together is to behave as if they are cheaters who do not want to get caught.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathen
But that would be cheating which would be an even bigger reason to delete. Maybe it should be written in big red letters what you can do not to get deleted, from what I know this isn't the only pair playing togheter in Utopia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mary Lennox
Consider sending aid as an aggressive action, how many players got caught on that? Me for one.... but next age changes everyone will be informed by the age page that sending aid is an aggressive action.
or simply make running 2 provs in 1 kd legal for 5 people (10 spots). put a fee of 60 creds per age on it.
As a complete outsider to this, I have the following comments:
1) Bishop's unnecessarily rude attitude makes me think he may need to take a break for a while...
2) I have yet to see any real evidence of cheating here (nerdy IT person here)
3) Sadly, it's very easy to cheat in this game. I like to think the vast majority of us DON'T out of respect for the game. We love this game, or we wouldn't still be here.
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Originally Posted by zeleres
Wee Sin, I sit in front of my PC the whole day, and check in every ~2hrs. everytime i do, im logged out. i do have my own phone. but i log in from another device anyway because its easier to cross check multiple pages instead of cycling through tabs.
now your points are moot. go sit in the corner. face the wall. you cant assume things and convict ppl based on it. I've played with Jesters and i dont think they need to xlog to get those ww. I also can recall how active Krissy was. Its a shame Bishop had to delete your accounts before providing sufficient evidence.
Don't login from the same device, problem solved. I've played with soloc and sadira since mehul owned it and never had an issue. You may not have cheated, but you broke the rules which amounts to the same thing.
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Thats not anything... It just looks like you typed in random numbers in there. Can you just link the actual unedited data?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop