Sparta vs Sleepy

FYI, the people in charge of running hostile situations in Sparta are incredible. Just ask the U.

A win is a win. calling it tactical WD...come on, it is losing. If Sparta wins this it will be an impressive win when all had them as losing side.

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Originally Posted by Vasp

sure they can, but u get one chance to beat us in war each age :P I joined Sparta to win wars, i give 0 fcks about land crowns, nw crowns and that whoring BS. My job here is to get war wins. So Sleepy can do whatever they want, B2B, dance around a room, I dont care. Im focused 100% in winning this war, what happens after is a job for the people in sparta in charge of running hostile situations, ill be sleeping :P.

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That's why "warring" kds fail to ever chart and cry rest of top is mean and are part of some conspiracy. Cause they want to "win" even if they fall to -40% land BUT THEY HAVE NOT REACH 50% NW cause of a few t/m. And when war is over and they get smacked by other top kd that kills these UB t/m they start to cry about how mean the top is.

I see more lies ... about 1 way ritual and dragon one way ... dragon maybe ... ritual we'll have it up for at least 48h:P mujajajaja!

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Originally Posted by Meep

Sparta would just cry to TBB or Ronins to hit into a b2b like the last time they got tact wd'd.

Sleepy can very much WD in a position to destroy sparta.

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I heard b2bs are all fake wars and should not be respected? Believe some supposedly "top" kds interpret it that way.

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Originally Posted by coss

That's why "warring" kds fail to ever chart and cry rest of top is mean and are part of some conspiracy. Cause they want to "win" even if they fall to -40% land BUT THEY HAVE NOT REACH 50% NW cause of a few t/m. And when war is over and they get smacked by other top kd that kills these UB t/m they start to cry about how mean the top is.

I see more lies ... about 1 way ritual and dragon one way ... dragon maybe ... ritual we'll have it up for at least 48h:P mujajajaja!

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He told you he doesn't care about any of that.
In the same post you say you are looking forward to the continuation of this war. Which is it coss? Is Sparta still in this just to drag a war? You sound exactly like all those "warring" KDs you despise we beat with tanky setups when I played in FS.

Sorry. Since I'm a ghetto in a C- kingdom, can someone enlighten me what is a warring kd? If not a warring kd then what other options are there? Still learning here.

There are also A+ elitist better than you ones.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

He told you he doesn't care about any of that.
In the same post you say you are looking forward to the continuation of this war. Which is it coss? Is Sparta still in this just to drag a war? You sound exactly like all those "warring" KDs you despise we beat with tanky setups when I played in FS.

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The problem with those setups is that while they win wars, they almost exclusively come out of the war in a position to get ****ing destroyed by the person they beat.

This is highly relevant in whoring play, where nobody gives a **** if you won, if you're in a position to get farmed, you're going to get farmed.

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Originally Posted by Mansoor

A win is a win. calling it tactical WD...come on, it is losing. If Sparta wins this it will be an impressive win when all had them as losing side.

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If you WD into a position to farm your opponent, and your goal is land, then you aren't losing

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Originally Posted by Meep

The problem with those setups is that while they win wars, they almost exclusively come out of the war in a position to get ****ing destroyed by the person they beat.

This is highly relevant in whoring play, where nobody gives a **** if you won, if you're in a position to get farmed, you're going to get farmed.

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I was still in Sparta whilst setup was being decided. Bart and the people supporting his layout never had whoring in mind. Doesn't change the poor way coss is conducting himself here in the slightest, basically proving he's no different than the people he promised he can "take out" to Bart. If I have no class, neither does he. We should be friends :)

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

I was still in Sparta whilst setup was being decided. Bart and the people supporting his layout never had whoring in mind. Doesn't change the poor way coss is conducting himself here in the slightest, basically proving he's no different than the people he promised he can "take out" to Bart. If I have no class, neither does he. We should be friends :)

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I never promised anyone anything. It is a difference to be confident when someone asks you if you're going to win a war vs someone and that you actually do it. Maybe to confident I might say.

Also Matija, different people, different way of thinking and different goals. If Sparta's goal is to win all wars but get their kd destroyed for the following 3 weeks is their problem. And the ONLY reason why they are still in the game for this war and have these 5 big t/m is because they were a bunch of liars and promised if they get beaten down will withdraw by min time. I told them to not drag the war and let the winner still go for other fights in top. They agreed to it, I focused on that, and let their t/m be when I could SMASH them first 48 hours of war and we wouldn't be here now. Then by min time they were preparing a goodbye wave doing a lot of stupid hits with their orcs that they claimed they are tired of having big while t/m are small. Well, then I told them not to be stupid and do that cause I will hit these orcs OOW before we would negotiate a CF cause I won't let someone else farm these orcs from them. They "used" that to have a reason to war for as long it would take us to put them to 50% NW range as they claimed. Now ... why I will destroy this kd this age and will follow them every single age till they disband (I do that sometimes yeh) is simply because I can't stand liars. IF I told them I will not notice them before BB war if they get into 25% land range with explore, I kept my promise. I been nice to them and they pretended to be nice to me till a point where they saw an opportunity to take on us. They noticed us 2 hours after I asked them 2 times if they want to war and they said no, cause they prepare for TheU. We explored and then 2 hours later they notice under a stupid reason from a conversation Meep had with dunno whom where he said HE BELIEVES that Sleepy would support them if they get 3x hostile by TBB/Ronins/Sparta. Then when I come online they tell me the story, I prove them wrong and they say they would retract the notice if I join to destroy TheU. I was like ... what do I have to do with this? So I told them to just war, even if we had close to no stocks and just explored on almost all the kd. We had like 10 epa with 10-12 def specs/acre and 4-5 tpa raw when we normally play with 15 -17 epa and 8-10 def specs/acre and 6-7 tpa, they were pumped like hell and with a lot of gold stocked. We didn't even afford more than a Saphire that they killed really fast and they had cash for 2 dragons.

Now the question is: If they lied to me 2 times just to get in a better position to fight me long term, once about the notice and once about the min time war, should I kill them even if that means I wd and after that just wave them every 7 days this age? Well you can guess the answer. I don't know if I will withdraw at one point and I don't know what their plans are for rest of the age but I for sure know mine. Now is everything clear to everyone? Matija and Bart can eat as much sh!t as they want together with their spartan minions but in the end all they really are is just a bunch of liars that can say whatever they want from now on but no one will ever believe them. It is not the first time Sparta pulls this type of stuff. It happened in the past when they get friends to DB so they can jump in after and when they see they can't play it in a fair way they just do as last age and have farmwars and then they are angry they got their "crown" removed. Don't get me wrong but if you want to have a name in this game do it fair.

My name is Matija, it's a good name, never complained.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

My name is Matija, it's a good name, never complained.

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and you're full of sh!t;)

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Originally Posted by coss

I never promised anyone anything. It is a difference to be confident when someone asks you if you're going to win a war vs someone and that you actually do it. Maybe to confident I might say.

Also Matija, different people, different way of thinking and different goals. If Sparta's goal is to win all wars but get their kd destroyed for the following 3 weeks is their problem. And the ONLY reason why they are still in the game for this war and have these 5 big t/m is because they were a bunch of liars and promised if they get beaten down will withdraw by min time. I told them to not drag the war and let the winner still go for other fights in top. They agreed to it, I focused on that, and let their t/m be when I could SMASH them first 48 hours of war and we wouldn't be here now. Then by min time they were preparing a goodbye wave doing a lot of stupid hits with their orcs that they claimed they are tired of having big while t/m are small. Well, then I told them not to be stupid and do that cause I will hit these orcs OOW before we would negotiate a CF cause I won't let someone else farm these orcs from them. They "used" that to have a reason to war for as long it would take us to put them to 50% NW range as they claimed. Now ... why I will destroy this kd this age and will follow them every single age till they disband (I do that sometimes yeh) is simply because I can't stand liars. IF I told them I will not notice them before BB war if they get into 25% land range with explore, I kept my promise. I been nice to them and they pretended to be nice to me till a point where they saw an opportunity to take on us. They noticed us 2 hours after I asked them 2 times if they want to war and they said no, cause they prepare for TheU. We explored and then 2 hours later they notice under a stupid reason from a conversation Meep had with dunno whom where he said HE BELIEVES that Sleepy would support them if they get 3x hostile by TBB/Ronins/Sparta. Then when I come online they tell me the story, I prove them wrong and they say they would retract the notice if I join to destroy TheU. I was like ... what do I have to do with this? So I told them to just war, even if we had close to no stocks and just explored on almost all the kd. We had like 10 epa with 10-12 def specs/acre and 4-5 tpa raw when we normally play with 15 -17 epa and 8-10 def specs/acre and 6-7 tpa, they were pumped like hell and with a lot of gold stocked. We didn't even afford more than a Saphire that they killed really fast and they had cash for 2 dragons.

Now the question is: If they lied to me 2 times just to get in a better position to fight me long term, once about the notice and once about the min time war, should I kill them even if that means I wd and after that just wave them every 7 days this age? Well you can guess the answer. I don't know if I will withdraw at one point and I don't know what their plans are for rest of the age but I for sure know mine. Now is everything clear to everyone? Matija and Bart can eat as much sh!t as they want together with their spartan minions but in the end all they really are is just a bunch of liars that can say whatever they want from now on but no one will ever believe them. It is not the first time Sparta pulls this type of stuff. It happened in the past when they get friends to DB so they can jump in after and when they see they can't play it in a fair way they just do as last age and have farmwars and then they are angry they got their "crown" removed. Don't get me wrong but if you want to have a name in this game do it fair.

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Coss you nublet, i thought you were much much better than you really are. This war was won 36 hours into it by sparta. The problem is you didnt see it but I sure did. You have no ubers, you cant hold the land you have, our ritual is done, dragon is done and our ubers are massing off and tpa. The problem is you associate land to winning wars. You see, winning wars is what I do best. Its about having a control over strategical resources and land isnt one of them in this game. Land is cancer, lower tpa, lower wpa. You never "beat us down".On the contrary, you were! the thing is, you are not very good in wars, hence you were blind and could not see it. The 1/3 in your kingdom page shows that while we will have 4/4. Coss, you are all blah blah but you lack the skills to play this game at a top level. Surrender now or be farmed. Im hoping for the latter. Hugs n kisses

-love vasp

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Originally Posted by coss

and you're full of sh!t;)

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Classy :)
Let's be friends?!

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Originally Posted by Vasp

Coss you nublet, i thought you were much much better than you really are. This war was won 36 hours into it by sparta. The problem is you didnt see it but I sure did. You have no ubers, you cant hold the land you have, our ritual is done, dragon is done and our ubers are massing off and tpa. The problem is you associate land to winning wars. You see, winning wars is what I do best. Its about having a control over strategical resources and land isnt one of them in this game. Land is cancer, lower tpa, lower wpa. You never "beat us down".On the contrary, you were! the thing is, you are not very good in wars, hence you were blind and could not see it. The 1/3 in your kingdom page shows that while we will have 4/4. Coss, you are all blah blah but you lack the skills to play this game at a top level. Surrender now or be farmed. Im hoping for the latter. Hugs n kisses

-love vasp

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Vaspieboy, behave yourself.

He's also very cute.

#IloveVasp

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Originally Posted by Nibornibor

Vaspieboy, behave yourself.

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sorry sorry, that guy just pisses me off a lot. keeps complaining and QQing, this is a game, u were bested move on. I can go to sleepy next age to teach you if u want, pending approval from my god mr bart

love u matija

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Originally Posted by Vasp

sorry sorry, that guy just pisses me off a lot. keeps complaining and QQing, this is a game, u were bested move on. I can go to sleepy next age to teach you if u want, pending approval from my god mr bart

love u matija

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You won't be allowed to do that. We can't loose our only spanitard :/

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Originally Posted by Nibornibor

You won't be allowed to do that. We can't loose our only spanitard :/

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oh thank god, last thing I wanted is to go to sleepy (I hear they lose more wars than warseekers :( )

It's the same bloodline I hear.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

It's the same bloodline I hear.

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figures..

So where is Shai, last timeI saw him he was talking about how we only had 24 hours left and had a 10% chance.

Im concerned, anyone know where he is? he ok? #lookingforshai

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Originally Posted by Vasp

Coss you nublet, i thought you were much much better than you really are. This war was won 36 hours into it by sparta. The problem is you didnt see it but I sure did. You have no ubers, you cant hold the land you have, our ritual is done, dragon is done and our ubers are massing off and tpa. The problem is you associate land to winning wars. You see, winning wars is what I do best. Its about having a control over strategical resources and land isnt one of them in this game. Land is cancer, lower tpa, lower wpa. You never "beat us down".On the contrary, you were! the thing is, you are not very good in wars, hence you were blind and could not see it. The 1/3 in your kingdom page shows that while we will have 4/4. Coss, you are all blah blah but you lack the skills to play this game at a top level. Surrender now or be farmed. Im hoping for the latter. Hugs n kisses

-love vasp

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A war is not won till last fat cow is f***ed ... twice;) I like it how you avoid the main topic of being a bunch of liars;) Anything else is short term, but that thing will follow you ;) Not sure you realize but you're making more and more enemies in this game. I learned it the hard way myself that is bad for the kd in long term. Unlike you I've been beating down alliances for ages on my own, till I made way to many enemies to be able to secure a single CF and got wasted warring every other few days having people waiting for me out of the wars non-stop.

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Originally Posted by coss

A war is not won till last fat cow is f***ed ... twice;) I like it how you avoid the main topic of being a bunch of liars;) Anything else is short term, but that thing will follow you ;) Not sure you realize but you're making more and more enemies in this game. I learned it the hard way myself that is bad for the kd in long term. Unlike you I've been beating down alliances for ages on my own, till I made way to many enemies to be able to secure a single CF and got wasted warring every other few days having people waiting for me out of the wars non-stop.

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Coss, I was in Cambodia 3 days before the war and joined it 24 hours after it started. I dont do the diplo of the kingdom, I dont know what happened but I trust that our guys did the right thing. Regardless, I dont care about diplo. Like I said before, i only care about winning wars. I truly admire Bart, Matija, Fury, thanh, cascade and all the rest of them because they really do care about in game relations (with other kingdoms) and diplomacy. Most of them have friendships with leaderships of other kingdoms. I admire that. But I dont care about diplo :P You and your people were cocky in this forum, talking about how u guys defeated us etc etc. But now that it seems you are losing, dont QQ about me throwing back a little bit of what you gave us when this started. Assume the defeat, move on and we can have peace and a good relation. Anywayz, nice war. You can end it whenever u want and do whatever later.

Reading this thread, i saw few of sleepy leader claiming that sparta is a liar and how good sleepy is in this war (ns alot and 90% on winning side). On the other side, sleeply LS is mad on sparta dragging the war. I am a noob from some ghetto kd... would like to know why sleepy conplain when they think that it is a 90% sure win war that they can farm land from sparta so mad about it? Or is sleeply LS know that they are going to lose the war soon that make them so mad and rage in the forum?

I really don't have many good relations to speak of haha. I think this no Rogues setup, well first of all it can't AW so wtf. Anyway, I don't really understand strategy that well, to me it seems like you make an educated guess and then you see how it holds up against the challenges the game throws at you. Nobody gets it right all the time, nothing to be ashamed of, it's a game that would be horribly boring if things were predictable all the time.

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Originally Posted by Thelord

Reading this thread, i saw few of sleepy leader claiming that sparta is a liar and how good sleepy is in this war (ns alot and 90% on winning side). On the other side, sleeply LS is mad on sparta dragging the war. I am a noob from some ghetto kd... would like to know why sleepy conplain when they think that it is a 90% sure win war that they can farm land from sparta so mad about it? Or is sleeply LS know that they are going to lose the war soon that make them so mad and rage in the forum?

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It’s because they didn’t build TD’s again. Lololl

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Originally Posted by Vasp

Coss, I was in Cambodia 3 days before the war and joined it 24 hours after it started. I dont do the diplo of the kingdom, I dont know what happened but I trust that our guys did the right thing. Regardless, I dont care about diplo. Like I said before, i only care about winning wars. I truly admire Bart, Matija, Fury, thanh, cascade and all the rest of them because they really do care about in game relations (with other kingdoms) and diplomacy. Most of them have friendships with leaderships of other kingdoms. I admire that. But I dont care about diplo :P You and your people were cocky in this forum, talking about how u guys defeated us etc etc. But now that it seems you are losing, dont QQ about me throwing back a little bit of what you gave us when this started. Assume the defeat, move on and we can have peace and a good relation. Anywayz, nice war. You can end it whenever u want and do whatever later.

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Well you see, the diplo you don;t care about got you in the position of still being in this war. I have log from fury where cascade said that he wanted to surrender min time after you guys do a max gains wave but changed his mind because I told him we would hit you after the war if you do that because I find it outside the "friendly" terms. On the other hand ... don;t mind Shai lol, he is angry you guys keep doing max gains on him:)) Doubt you saw me say the words "we won" in all the posts I made. For me winning or losing are same thing as soon as I get what I want from a war. Again, different people, different way of thinking. Only problem I have with your kd right now is the wrong attitude and the lies. Other than that ... you have the activity and you have the skills to war, nothing there, but to keep on spreading lies is just something I can not stand. If I am fair to you and friendly and you just keep on spreading lies to take advantage ... then we have a problem. I could just notice you when we got out of the war with BB when we had the stocks but I didn't cause your guys said have different plans so I went on and did something different planning to wait for someone else to notice. Instead your kd just noticed 2 hours later. You think you had ANY chance in a war where we were prepared?:)) Don't make me laugh:) I will surender right now if I know you would war me again in a b2b but I know you will not cause you'd get trashed.

Now that is the problem I have with your kd. Going all nice and cuddly to take advantages and backstab, that is the problem;)

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Originally Posted by coss

Well you see, the diplo you don;t care about got you in the position of still being in this war. I have log from fury where cascade said that he wanted to surrender min time after you guys do a max gains wave but changed his mind because I told him we would hit you after the war if you do that because I find it outside the "friendly" terms. On the other hand ... don;t mind Shai lol, he is angry you guys keep doing max gains on him:)) Doubt you saw me say the words "we won" in all the posts I made. For me winning or losing are same thing as soon as I get what I want from a war. Again, different people, different way of thinking. Only problem I have with your kd right now is the wrong attitude and the lies. Other than that ... you have the activity and you have the skills to war, nothing there, but to keep on spreading lies is just something I can not stand. If I am fair to you and friendly and you just keep on spreading lies to take advantage ... then we have a problem. I could just notice you when we got out of the war with BB when we had the stocks but I didn't cause your guys said have different plans so I went on and did something different planning to wait for someone else to notice. Instead your kd just noticed 2 hours later. You think you had ANY chance in a war where we were prepared?:)) Don't make me laugh:) I will surender right now if I know you would war me again in a b2b but I know you will not cause you'd get trashed.

Now that is the problem I have with your kd. Going all nice and cuddly to take advantages and backstab, that is the problem;)

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Coss, if believing that helps you sleep better, Im not gonna try to convince you as to why you are wrong. Regarding Cascade, yeah he might have wanted to wd min time but I came back from my vacations in cambodia, grabbed the leash of my war elephant and TRAMPLED you all to death! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA Anyways, we werent going for crown this age, so if u would have noticed us we would have just ruined ur attempt to crown :P FSU! Anyways coss, it has been a pleasure, great war. Like i said before, surrender now or we will farm you. Its not a threat at all, its just a fact :P Send my best to shai.

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Coss, if believing that helps you sleep better, Im not gonna try to convince you as to why you are wrong. Regarding Cascade, yeah he might have wanted to wd min time but I came back from my vacations in cambodia, grabbed the leash of my war elephant and TRAMPLED you all to death! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA Anyways, we werent going for crown this age, so if u would have noticed us we would have just ruined ur attempt to crown :P FSU! Anyways coss, it has been a pleasure, great war. Like i said before, surrender now or we will farm you. Its not a threat at all, its just a fact :P Send my best to shai.

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say Cambodia one more time :))

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Originally Posted by freaka

say Cambodia one more time :))

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love that country! war elephants

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Coss, if believing that helps you sleep better, Im not gonna try to convince you as to why you are wrong. Regarding Cascade, yeah he might have wanted to wd min time but I came back from my vacations in cambodia, grabbed the leash of my war elephant and TRAMPLED you all to death! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA Anyways, we werent going for crown this age, so if u would have noticed us we would have just ruined ur attempt to crown :P FSU! Anyways coss, it has been a pleasure, great war. Like i said before, surrender now or we will farm you. Its not a threat at all, its just a fact :P Send my best to shai.

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Vasp, same as Shai, don't say you win before you did:) You see? Same as the other noobs that disbanded(CR) you are avoiding the real deal and claim the leadership change every other day and anytime you run into diplomatic problems. People know when they speak with me then they speak with me till the end. You do not change your stuff as a kd as it suits you by claiming different leadership and think it's fine.

its true what you say, we have not won. like i said, not sure what was discussed during diplo, dont care either.

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Originally Posted by Vasp

its true what you say, we have not won. like i said, not sure what was discussed during diplo, dont care either.

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Point 1 proven. Thank you Vasp!
Point 2 is discussed by playing the game:)

Keep up the good work! War is a good one even if you need to lie 2 times to still be in it:)

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Originally Posted by coss

War is a good one even if you need to lie 2 times to still be in it:)

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Im pretty sure there are ALOT more lies going on than just 2 lol

Can we focus on the war and dont keep blaming others? Calm down : )
* vasp u no mention me T_T

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Originally Posted by ChaSiuBao

Can we focus on the war and dont keep blaming others? Calm down : )
* vasp u no mention me T_T

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cause im a bad bad bad boy :( BAD VASP, BAD VASP! ohh plz dont spank me again :(

Noobs will always be owned by pro's. If our 7th ranked war leader would've been in charge of Sleepy they would've won easily. It's beyond me how you can lose a war with so many advantages.

#getabettersetup
#Spartaisawesome

damn guys... great old kds, great old players and u still dont know the game is played via utopia-game.com not forum.utopia-game.com...
gl hf ;)