Well, he's only 324 acres right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
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Well, he's only 324 acres right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
If Bio started razing you down, would you blame it on your strat? lol
Nope, I'd just wonder why they were doing it. If I made a douche-bag move like posting their monarch's intel on the global forums, then I'd say that I deserved it.
Just giving an update for Gojete since he can't really do that right now.
Right, but pk'ing him when you're at a clear and distinct advantage doesn't really prove anything about his strategy, other than it's not a good strategy to screw with kds larger than your own lol
This PK isn't about his strategy; it's all about principle. Now, if later this age we were to war, then a PK that he might suffer might be about his strategy, but since my KD doesn't intentionally PK unless it's in retaliation, that'd be up to him ;)
Right, but people might be under the impression that we have the same goal here. Just making it clear that we don't lol
Okay, I'll make it even clearer.
The current venture that I am undertaking against Gojete has nothing at all to do with Palem's goal of proving that Gojete's province is more easily PK'd due to over pop from being chained. I am trying to PK him, but this is a personal vendetta and has nothing to do with builds and strategy.
However, after this is finished, I shall join Palem's cause in trying to prove to Gojete that he is using an inferior strategy and that he shouldn't be spreading such bad advice around.
Now, let there be no confusion on the matter :P
Poor Gojete.
He's banned from forums now?
It was just a 24 hour ban.
Well your strat is to remain small with high homes and plunder inactives for the age. If you're strat allowed you to be bigger you'd be on equal footing then right?Quote:
Originally Posted by gojete
So palem it is his strats fault for getting pked. otherwise he'd be as big or bigger since he's a tact genius and could own orday 1v1. Who plays dorf and stays at 400 acres? That's such a waste imo when dorfs get really good above 2K acres.
Well, he certainly doesn't have 70% guilds. No more than 3.6% now, and he can't be much more than 25% built either. Explored through the night ;)
What a bunch of circle jerk elitists.
Geeee, I wonder why there are only 40 active forum posters.
Lol, I hope that that is sarcasm :P If not, then did you even read the past couple of pages where I explained why I'm doing this?
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Originally Posted by Palem
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Originally Posted by Ordray
In order to be an elitist, don't you need to be elite? lol
what the hell are you talking about?...there have been a ton of new posters recentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Dekommissioner
well as long as gojete respawns ill be happy
/me waves as a new poster
ive always played uto since the early ages but i never bothered to make myself known till about 2 ages ago.
and lol @ orday
ok, I admit, I am comming OOP in 45 hrs. I will be smaller. If somoene could please let me know the location I can test my barely OOP strategy against his. I need to grow and get acres anyway.
:D
haha palem you got me hooked, i love this site, i feel like there is a comic for everything on there.... i just need to read them all to find them....Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
lol I thought that I had typed something like that myself :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Palem
If BOL is elite, then something has changed since I last checked 30 seconds ago. Not to diss my KD, we're a pretty decent group of players, but far from elite.
Ordray, how is your KD activity. I see you have 24 provinces, if they are all active, maybe our KD's could war some time this age. I am not part of leadership in my KD, so this is just speculation, but we generally war anyone who is a similar size to us.
its obvious that his activity sucks since im still alive and even bigger than when he started chaining me, they did try though, tons of attacks , even try to starve and all they could,
So after this mini war gojete vs ordray kd = gojete won
After 36 hours and several quad tapping from ordrays kd, i began at 415 acres now im at 607 . If they had been doing a good job id be at 200 and thus , since ordray cant even order his whole kd to attack me and kill me, hes a deficient monarch , and his ppl dont follow him. After 36 hours of war against ordrays kd, since im bigger than before. Id say he should call it off and accept his loss.
He had his chance ,1 whole kd of 24 players vs a single province and he clearly fail.
I think if he keeps hitting me after all this time, id call it harrasement and want to report it as a hate attack and i think this kind of behavior should not be tolerated in a game like utopia
You had your chance ordray move on .
I also want to report palem if he tries to pk me just because he doesnt like my strat . This is clearly personal harrasement .And again i dont think this kind of things have a place in utopia.
I also want to point out that ordrays kd did more than 50 ops in the whole kd i was in, and that the kd got hit all of the sudden from kds that are twice it size and even kingdoms that were at war with someone else , hit into our kd and opped our provinces.
One thing is to try to pk me and another thing is for several kds to gangbang in one kingdom because a player doesnt share their views in the forums.
I think its really cheap that just because you hate me you go and attack and op the kd i am in. This is really a hate move and in real life its called a hate crime.
All this little group of friends, go around bullying up a smaller kd just because they hate my views of the game.
So you get all your friends to hit my kd just because you hate me, see how cheap you are.
On other news spammely got chained down to 300 acres , spammely if you are aroudn 35 gc right now and unable to regrow, you might as well start plundering out of war and paying the dragons . Run a little bank, you can make between 800k and 3 million gc everyday, i think that helps your kd more .
Anyway is nice to see how mods act cheap and abuse their powers , checking on my province and what i do and not do , bishop how do you get the time to go harrass me when you have so much to do?
Just because you dont like the way I play it doesnt give you the right to harrass me everyday , one thing is to get bullied by other fellow players, but another completely is being bullied and harrassed by moderators. This whole threads point was to provoque me and try to make me leave the game.
Youre very malicious and with bad will , cheap persons like you palem, bishop should be removed from your charge.
High homes work, just because you dont like the strat it doesnt mean it doesnt work, and just because you dont like that more people are playing with high homes , and you dont like it, whats it to you if more ppl want to have fun trying high homes ?
You just dont like it that ppl dont think like you, dont want to play like you and dont want to play WITH you .
Trying to get me off the game is really cheap, i think the game is for everyone who wants to play it, whether you think i give good or bad advise is beyond what your understanding capabilities could judge. Since its a strat that works against most ppl in the ghetto, its clear that it works in the ghetto.
And if people want to stay and play in the ghetto thats up to them ; bishop and palem , are you going to force everyone to play how you think is right ?
This forums are to discuss strategy between utopia players. By abusing your powers to check on my province and provoque me to get me banned shows that you shouldnt be modding this forums , you are low .
We are not trying to get you to stop playing the game gojete just stop posting crap on this forum.
you dont own the forums, they are owned by jolt, and if the owner of jolt comes in and reads how you try to make single player stop posting and quit the game, just because he plays different , im pretty sure he would agree that steps are needed to stop this kind of behavior in the forums and in the game. A lot of bad apples have been sorted out of the bunch in this past few days .
I dont mind being flamed, i think its part of a strategy game, the tough talk and all that,heated discussions in a war forum are a must and all your critique against my builds and so on , shows weak spots that might get fixed .
you see flaws where i probably wouldnt see any by myself. So im not against players flamming me, im just saying that mods shouldnt be a part of it and abuse their powers .
And others shouldnt rally up their friends to hit a kd where i am at just because they dont like my views and strats and how i play. Again what triggered all this is improper human behaviour, us mainly that more players are using high homes, and as i have been reading messages, people have been playing with high homes before i ever tried it the first time ,and many people have found them succesful in the ghetto way before me .
They just dont post it in the forums because they dont want to be flamed.
You are keeping other players from sharing their experiences with suppression and the use of force by fear.
What you call crap is a biased and personal point of view . The strat has been tested in and out of war, and it works . And as im learning from other players, its not just me that has found them useful.
Anyway when i tell you that your type of behaviour and actions are what make the world a mess is because its true, look how some act. What some of you are doing here, is what many ppl do in the real world, only with guns and physical force instead of virtual insanity , you are a reflection of how bad things are .
You should go read a little to see the similarities of what is going on here and what goes on in the real world.Its the same attitude and energy you are using here t, that ppl use in the real world to justify mass murders , wars ,injustice and all kind of deplorable actions that happen in the world everyday
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_speech
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_crime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_eugenics
Gojete, welcome back. Cool down a little, man. Ignore other posters if you don't like what they say.
Ordray is upset because you posted his SOT. God alone knows why, i presume you didn't keep his location, it's not like it's secret squirrel and nobody else could get a SOT on him.
I agree, bringing his friends in on it isn't necessary if he's such a good player as he claims. Unfortunately what tends to happen is that people boast about what they're doing and then everyone and their friends join in on you and your kingdom, looking on it as a laugh. It is a circlejerk, yes, and it is a kind of bullying, and it's a really bad attitude to have in society, but it isn't against the rules of this game.
Maybe you should apologise to him for posting his SOT? i don't expect you meant to upset him.
1. if you ask bishop he will tell you there is no freedom of speak with this game and the forums. Rules are in place and if you break these rules they will be enforced (see point 2)
2. If you post someones information on a public board. Something that is against the forum rules expect there to be consequences. You were told not to post information and you posted it again. Hense the ban and razes as a retaliation from orday and his kingdom for doing so
3. Mulitiple people have stated why high homes/high draft are not good stratagies.
If you want to continue this personal cursade of yours I think you should highlight the point that you stay as small as you can and plunder inactives. In war you just plunder targets OOW.
Sweetiepie it is against the rules to post locations and province information on public boards. That is why he got a ban
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Just because people may know his location it does not mean he can break the rules and post it. Pms are for locations not the main forums. If I posted your information here it may lead to extra attacks on you do you think that is acceptable.
I'm tempted to break apart his posts and go point by point, but that would take entirely too long of a post to do and I'd end up with a huge wall of text that no one would read.
Anyhow, I like how I who, to my knowledge, have made no personal attacks on your character am now being called a fascist, Nazi, racist, mass murdering, elitist. I haven't attacked your character, even though I've been tempted to recently, and all that I have done is to try to show you why the strategy that you are pushing is a bad one! If you remember kind sir, I have given you several pieces of advice since you started posting here in these forums. One such piece you so kindly posted in another thread just recently and conveniently forgot that it was I who gave it to you.
Here's a brief quote from a PM that you sent to me thanking me for my help:
For one so ardent about those who flame them, you sure are quick to start lobbing out the Molotov cocktails yourself. Hypocrite. There, if you want to consider that as a flame, then do so and we can count it as 1 vs however many you just posted above here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gojete
As for my KD's "orders" to attack you (or the actual lack there of,) I never ordered any of it. I posted in our KD forum what you did and what I planned to do. Some said, "Heck yeah, we'll join you in it." Others didn't. I don't order people to help me in a personal vendetta; everything that they did was voluntary. Now, regarding ops done on your former KD, they were perpetrated without my knowledge, and I've since apologized to the monarch over there, and actually we seem to have something of a friendship building there. I never called in any help. I didn't post in here asking for help; I didn't PM anyone either in game or via the forums asking for hits on your KD; I never emailed or used any form of communication to even ask for others in other KDs to do anything let alone attack provinces that I had no interest in attacking.
And as I have said from the beginning, this has nothing to do with your views, strategies, or even personality even though I'm not a fan of them. It is in response to an action which you performed in the forums. I will continue with this until I'm ordered to do otherwise. I don't consider this harassment. You took action against me, and I'm retaliating. Harassment would be if you did nothing and I was just constantly hitting you just for the giggles. I'm not. I don't care if you quit the game or not or quit posting in the forums or not. That's not my goal and never will be.
I find it strikingly ironic to be called some of the things that you have. I'm one of the most ardent supports of the freedom of speech, yet I'm attacked as being opposite. I'm vehemently opposed to racism in any form, yet I'm labeled a Nazi. I have always fought for equality, yet I'm accused of nonexistent hate crimes. I constantly adapt my build and strategy to incorporate ideas and advice that will make my province better, yet I'm close minded.
@ Sweetiepie, I think that Al3x has my response handled quite nicely. If you know my province name and location (which if you do if you read my posts and see my sig) then the intel doesn't even have to have my province name/loc in it; it just has to be attributed to my province. Now, if someone were to post it up and leave it, then some opportunist could see that we are of similar sizes and hit me even though the chances are that he'd not have even seen my province otherwise thus causing undue hardship for me.
lol yea its not like orday is hiding his kingdom with his "theme". just found it by randoming. now its time to find gojete. mwhahahaha.
Swetiepie im calm man, having a beer and chilling in a rainy day here, i couldnt go to the beach but i do enjoy watching the rain, i live in a 3rd floor and from my balcony the view is great , tons of trees and others.
Ordray , you can keep hitting me all age if you want,although it is harrasement , even if its not under your eyes , It is, whatever you think about it or not , Anyway with your amazing damages , its like a little mosquito biting me, so keep biting me, its annoying but not at all that much damage ,
The worst thing right now is that you stopped my wizard pump, and that im fat , i gained too many acres out of fighting the haters . But from my high towers i see your armies come and go, burning their torches and destroying only but a fraction of my lands, The damage you are inflicting into my amazing province, is less than the one your own province is suffering from this conflict.
My armies are strong and able, and are not afraid, we will fight the haters as we are doing now. And the defenses are up and the province is in good health .
You apologized to the monarch only because I left the kd, which i had to defect form, because i dont want to see them being hurt by my haters.
My way of ruling my province and the way I have rule kingdoms , is making the people who dont agree or like me or my ways, try to kill me and try to make me go into exile , again because they cant stand it that more and more players are using high homes and benefiting from my strategies .
The kd i defected from, all of the sudden got hit by several kindoms, not only ordrays, This is clear sign that there is a group of people of haters , that go around mocking and bullying other players, and there is no one to stand against them.
I dont believe that the mods, which also belong to the hater alliance, or out of game policies should prevent this from happening. Not by penalizing it, not by preventing it with threats , and not by punishing them, but by them themselves , coming to the realization of what they are actually doing.
But then again, people who are extremely overweight just cant stop eating even when they know its bad, and alcoholics cant stop drinking even when they get to see that its killing them and everyone around them. And it pains them and it suffers them but they cant stop their behaviour.
This might be treated as a sickness instead . What is the treatment that the haters must go through to help themselves and thus stop hurting others ?
I rather see that the haters realize how much they hate and how much evil they do onto the world with their actions, thus putting an end to this kind of behavior .
If there was enough good ppl in the world , to stop them, the only way would be by razing the hater alliance provinces and kingdoms, thus also contributing to the war and in the end the non haters would end up being the new haters .
The hater alliance is doing an embargo on my province, attacking anyone who might try to help me in any way or is related with me in any way, by in game attacks and ops, and flames and attacks in the forums.
-The hater alliance want to control monopoly of the game , because it makes them feel superior, and feeds their egos .
-The hater alliance want to control and have control the forums for far too long . And anyone opposing their authority is to be destroyed . This is all that is happening here .
-The hater alliance can not and will not accept any kind of thoughts and game styles made public in the forums , which goes against the hater alliance beliefs and values, for it is a threat to their beliefs and ways of viewing the world
-The hater alliance , is therefore , a group of people who thrive in the lack of fair play, proper moral values, and overall are bullies .
-The hater alliance members, belief themselves, that they are open minded, fair and square good people, that are open to new ideas and want nothing but the best for everyone.
-The hater alliance members clearly live in self deception and believe that all they do is good, "the means of doing it might not be so morally proper, but the ends is what matters and the end is good" this is the haters alliance way of doing things.
-The hater alliance strongly believes that they are right, and thus , they must fight for righteousness . But its clear that they are more self-righteous than the other.
-The hater alliance live in blind belief that their ideas , thoughts and actions are good and right. And their blind belief has blocked their heads from seeing how wrong they are.
-The hater alliance can and will never accept that they are wrong , publicly , they carry the banner of forgiveness and understanding, but inside themselves, they carry the banner of hatred and destruction!
Ordray
If I didnt have all this kds hitting one me , even with you hitting me everyday as you are doing now, if it was only you, i can easily grow your size and bring you down with ease, even with you hitting me everyday as you are doing now, you couldnt stop me from growing and taking your land and in the end razing you probably to death .
This is how good I rule my province . Your skills are inferior to mines, that is just how it is. You better call on more allies and give my location to everyone in this forums cause otherwise ill never die.
And if I grew to your size and started trad marching you and razing you to death, you would call on help from your kd and allies from the evil alliance to destroy me, for you clearly can not accept defeat, after i single handedly defeated your kd, whose purpose was to destroy me, after almost 48 hours of war,
My province stands alive, well , prospering , growing and my building efficency is high, and my population is happy and proud and they have a clear sense of justice and the more you try to attack them the stronger my province will become . For all the land that your kingdom has taken from my province, I can easily regain from you alone. And you can not play a fair 1v1, and you know you would lose, miserably, and your ego, is in pain, for you know now, that you are inferior to my forces and that we could easily destroy you, in a fair fight . And thus , you fight cheap.
On a side note, we had a province of 600 acres hitting on us last age over and over , and we sent mesasges and told him to stop, and when he didnt stop, i made the order to pk him and he was dead under 20 hours . Even at ordering to pk a province im better monarch than you are.
When did I ever call you nazi . Ordray, this is not an insult, and as you say , going through the whole post would hurt your eyes , your mind and shake your beliefs and views about yourself.
Just like I told you in a previous post , You are assuming that im talking things about you that im not, and i did mention the guardstations dragon saying it was someone else who recommended it to me . And as for your tips, i was even going to try the dwarf sage spread sheet that you gave the monarch myself late in the age.
BUt if you believe you are for freedom of speech, and liberties and values , you must see by yourself that you are driven by hatred and live in self denial. For as you may try to make your posting very elocuent, your lack of understanding skills, your unwillingness to read a whole post, and thus, your creation of assumptions and conclusions out of your own well cemented beliefs and ideas, prevents you from any type of real clarity in thought, and thus act by pure emotional and fanatical fervor , and this acts cause nothing but self damage .
Alex you areassuming that i stay at 400 acres and only plunder . It is not the fact that you are wrongly assuming this things that is worrysome , but that you are using your wrongful assumptions with bad purposes and ill manner .
And note that im bigger than before after the chains from the haters and that i received no aid other than 50k bushels . All soldiers and money i needed to not get killed by your kd and others who are razing me ATM i made all by myself. I single-handedly am taking on all the haters which include but are not limited to :
Miniopia 7From assassins kd attacked and oped
Many provinces from Rebuilding Our Legacy
Zombie Canarie ,from kingdom Zombie Zoo
One Mission s from assasins kd , oped
Dorpat , from kingdom babies at war,( who hits out of war into me ) for 1 acre lol
pink watermelon from kingdom garden of war ops riots
Unknown province from kd Winterfell, attacked
Legacy of Khorinis , from kingdom dungeons and dragons ?
Dancing Wrench of Bane from kingdom DnD recruiting
SaNines Shed at kingdom Unknown Home at WARRR
(in war relations )
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray ) razed 25 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray () razed 21 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray ( razed 18 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray () razed 15 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
All the haters are doing ridicule damages on my province :
February 17 of YR2 Dorpat () invaded Quad tap you 4 X a day () and captured 1 acre of land.
I have received well over 40 attacks with armies, plus inumerable ops, in constant greed, riots ,droughts, plague and so on . And again, im single-handedly surviving against the haters.
This is a victory for goodness and all that is right .
And after seeing all this survival, the haters may rally up even stronger forces and allies and the hater alliance will proably grow, and if that is the case , i will not survive the day.
Other than that, if its the same number of haters hitting one me, ill live forever , and thrive and prosper and grow.
By any case, if I do die, let it be know that i died because the haters killed me, out of hate.
epic :)
LOL. Funny stuff. Im enjoying gojete's martyrdom act.
Goteje, that is my favorite post by you so far! Keep on fighting.
Pshaw.
Everyone knows 100% Stables is where its at.
Nothin' like unlimited horses to supplement my 100% soldier army.
GO GOJETE. FIGHT THE IMPERIALIST ORDAY. DOWN WITH GOOD STRATEGY!
huzzaah!
Now this post, I will pick apart piece by piece and enjoy it immensely.
I'd hardly call the armies that you have "strong and able" unless by that you meant "frail and weak."Quote:
Originally Posted by gojete
Actually, why don't you PM your former monarch and ask him if he thinks that I was sincere or not in my apology. I was; and, from the back and forth that we had last night, it would appear that he does believe so.Quote:
You apologized to the monarch only because I left the kd, which i had to defect form, because i dont want to see them being hurt by my haters.
This is an example of failure to lead. If it's either accept your strategy as a good one or PK you, then you've obviously failed to do what any good monarch should do which is to unite the KD, not divide them as you say is your way.Quote:
My way of ruling my province and the way I have rule kingdoms , is making the people who dont agree or like me or my ways, try to kill me and try to make me go into exile , again because they cant stand it that more and more players are using high homes and benefiting from my strategies .
As I said, I never asked anyone to help me, and I even told those who asked for your location that I did not want their assistance. If someone else found your province and decided to take a swing or two, then it wasn't by my doing. I've already made my intentions clear. I don't see the need to do so once more.Quote:
The kd i defected from, all of the sudden got hit by several kindoms, not only ordrays, This is clear sign that there is a group of people of haters , that go around mocking and bullying other players, and there is no one to stand against them.
As I've said before, I'm not part of some conspiracy trying to remove you from the game because we disagree. That would go against the moral fiber of my being, and I would never do that. You can keep on labeling me as one of the haters if you want to; you're entitled to be wrong as long as you would like.Quote:
I dont believe that the mods, which also belong to the hater alliance, or out of game policies should prevent this from happening. Not by penalizing it, not by preventing it with threats , and not by punishing them, but by them themselves , coming to the realization of what they are actually doing.
Ah, I see that I am part of some large scale conspiracy of hate. Would you like a aluminum foil hat with that theory? I think that the one that you're wearing right now is probably too tight.Quote:
But then again, people who are extremely overweight just cant stop eating even when they know its bad, and alcoholics cant stop drinking even when they get to see that its killing them and everyone around them. And it pains them and it suffers them but they cant stop their behaviour.
This might be treated as a sickness instead . What is the treatment that the haters must go through to help themselves and thus stop hurting others ?
I rather see that the haters realize how much they hate and how much evil they do onto the world with their actions, thus putting an end to this kind of behavior .
If there was enough good ppl in the world , to stop them, the only way would be by razing the hater alliance provinces and kingdoms, thus also contributing to the war and in the end the non haters would end up being the new haters .
Please tell me who I flamed when they supported you. I want names and examples. I never ordered anything done to you or your former KD, nor did I request anything be done to them ever. I even went so far as to offer a CF to their monarch as soon as I was made aware of the situation, which he accepted along with my apology, the very same hour that it was offered.Quote:
The hater alliance is doing an embargo on my province, attacking anyone who might try to help me in any way or is related with me in any way, by in game attacks and ops, and flames and attacks in the forums.
Wrong. This has nothing to do with your strategy or my authority, never was, at least for me and my KD. I can't vouch for others, but I've made my intentions clear from the get-go.Quote:
-The hater alliance want to control monopoly of the game , because it makes them feel superior, and feeds their egos .
-The hater alliance want to control and have control the forums for far too long . And anyone opposing their authority is to be destroyed . This is all that is happening here .
Wrong again. This whole debate is springing up from you pushing a bad build as a great strategy, not our unwillingness to accept a new build or playing style. You're pushing something as superior when it has been proven to be inferior. YOU are the one who is being extremely close minded even while accusing others of being such.Quote:
-The hater alliance can not and will not accept any kind of thoughts and game styles made public in the forums , which goes against the hater alliance beliefs and values, for it is a threat to their beliefs and ways of viewing the world
Ask those who are members of my KD. Ask those whom I have warred in the past. I play fair, am governed by a rather strict set of moral values, and disapprove of bullying. But then again, I doubt that you'd believe the truth, even if it were written on the wall.Quote:
-The hater alliance , is therefore , a group of people who thrive in the lack of fair play, proper moral values, and overall are bullies .
I can't argue much with you there, because I am open minded, and I'd like to believe that I've always treated people fairly and have been a generally good person.Quote:
-The hater alliance members, belief themselves, that they are open minded, fair and square good people, that are open to new ideas and want nothing but the best for everyone.
I've never said that the end justifies the means. And I've never said that everything that I do is good; I'm human. I tend to screw up just as often if not more than the average person.Quote:
-The hater alliance members clearly live in self deception and believe that all they do is good, "the means of doing it might not be so morally proper, but the ends is what matters and the end is good" this is the haters alliance way of doing things.
I do believe that I am right, but I don't attack people because I think that they are wrong. Call me self-righteous or whatever you would like. Like I said earlier; you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how far from the truth that it truly is.Quote:
-The hater alliance strongly believes that they are right, and thus , they must fight for righteousness . But its clear that they are more self-righteous than the other.
And maybe if we repeat a lie enough times, people might actually believe it.Quote:
-The hater alliance live in blind belief that their ideas , thoughts and actions are good and right. And their blind belief has blocked their heads from seeing how wrong they are.
They're liars.
They don't know that they're liars.
They believe that their lies are the truth.
The speak lies for truth.
They're all EVIL liars!
No, actually I quite often admit that I am wrong. I actually have the guts to do that. I can't speak for everyone of this "Hater's Alliance" but I've always been one to admit it when I'm wrong.Quote:
-The hater alliance can and will never accept that they are wrong , publicly , they carry the banner of forgiveness and understanding, but inside themselves, they carry the banner of hatred and destruction!
Ask me if I care. Then ask me if I think that it's probable that you could do that. The answer to both would be the same.Quote:
Ordray
If I didnt have all this kds hitting one me , even with you hitting me everyday as you are doing now, if it was only you, i can easily grow your size and bring you down with ease, even with you hitting me everyday as you are doing now, you couldnt stop me from growing and taking your land and in the end razing you probably to death.
This would be the difference between you and I. I don't feel the need to do so; I play by the rules. I don't give out others' info, and I don't call in outside help.Quote:
This is how good I rule my province . Your skills are inferior to mines, that is just how it is. You better call on more allies and give my location to everyone in this forums cause otherwise ill never die.
To defeat a KD, don't you normally have to, I don't know, beat them in some way? Finding a way to scrounge up enough gc and soldiers to barely keep ahead of the 14.5 hours attack times of a couple of provinces is hardly a resounding victory. Surely you can explore back the 60 acres/14.5 hours that I destroy, can't you?Quote:
And if I grew to your size and started trad marching you and razing you to death, you would call on help from your kd and allies from the evil alliance to destroy me, for you clearly can not accept defeat, after i single handedly defeated your kd, whose purpose was to destroy me, after almost 48 hours of war,
No, you've reached the cap for GBP I'm afraid. Attacking you more won't make you stronger, and I have a feeling that your new KD won't be of much help. Last I checked, the only thing that you've gained from this is a few acres. Your defenses are less than half of what they were and your NW has plummeted.Quote:
My province stands alive, well , prospering , growing and my building efficency is high, and my population is happy and proud and they have a clear sense of justice and the more you try to attack them the stronger my province will become . For all the land that your kingdom has taken from my province, I can easily regain from you alone. And you can not play a fair 1v1, and you know you would lose, miserably, and your ego, is in pain, for you know now, that you are inferior to my forces and that we could easily destroy you, in a fair fight . And thus , you fight cheap.
Here you are again comparing what I am doing to harassment. Was it harassment when your KD pk'd him? No. You were responding to the actions of another, much as I am doing here. And once again, I'll state that I do not order anyone to assist me in a personal matter. If I would have, then we'd not be having this conversation right now.Quote:
On a side note, we had a province of 600 acres hitting on us last age over and over , and we sent mesasges and told him to stop, and when he didnt stop, i made the order to pk him and he was dead under 20 hours . Even at ordering to pk a province im better monarch than you are.
You paralleled my actions with those of the Nazi party, genocide, and hate crimes. Just look back at your own post.Quote:
When did I ever call you nazi . Ordray, this is not an insult, and as you say , going through the whole post would hurt your eyes , your mind and shake your beliefs and views about yourself.
I would encourage you to indeed try it. It might not be the best build in the world, but I believe that you'll find it to equal to if not better than your high homes strat and it is much more easily achieved. If you need a copy of the ones that I sent your former monarch, then I'll be happy to oblige.Quote:
Just like I told you in a previous post , You are assuming that im talking things about you that im not, and i did mention the guardstations dragon saying it was someone else who recommended it to me . And as for your tips, i was even going to try the dwarf sage spread sheet that you gave the monarch myself late in the age.
I'm not driven by hatred. I can honestly say that in my entire time playing Utopia that I've only ever hated 1 person, and that's not you. Afik, he doesn't even play any more so that's a moot point. Your own lack of understanding is very striking. By saying that I wasn't going to quote your post and rebut each and every statement, I did not mean that I hadn't read your entire posts. If you had actually read and comprehended my reply, the you'd realize that I was posting a very brief and to the point rebuttal, which even then turned out to be quite lengthy despite my desire for its brevity.Quote:
BUt if you believe you are for freedom of speech, and liberties and values , you must see by yourself that you are driven by hatred and live in self denial. For as you may try to make your posting very elocuent, your lack of understanding skills, your unwillingness to read a whole post, and thus, your creation of assumptions and conclusions out of your own well cemented beliefs and ideas, prevents you from any type of real clarity in thought, and thus act by pure emotional and fanatical fervor , and this acts cause nothing but self damage .
More like this: you depleted your stockpile of 1.7m gc and 4k soldiers trying to explore to survive and you're not able to keep your population up enough to continue for much longer.Quote:
And note that im bigger than before after the chains from the haters and that i received no aid other than 50k bushels . All soldiers and money i needed to not get killed by your kd and others who are razing me ATM i made all by myself.
No matter how many times that I tell you the truth, you just won't believe me will you? I didn't ask nor do I want those other KDs hitting you. If anything, they've just put you into a higher bracket of GBP and helped you with their trads taking 0-1acres.Quote:
I single-handedly am taking on all the haters which include but are not limited to :
Miniopia 7From assassins kd attacked and oped
Many provinces from Rebuilding Our Legacy (Note from Ordray: I'd like to clarify this once more. These are the only ones who are attacking because of my request. Only 6 attackers and maybe 2 t/ms participated.)
Zombie Canarie ,from kingdom Zombie Zoo
One Mission s from assasins kd , oped
Dorpat , from kingdom babies at war,( who hits out of war into me ) for 1 acre lol
pink watermelon from kingdom garden of war ops riots
Unknown province from kd Winterfell, attacked
Legacy of Khorinis , from kingdom dungeons and dragons ?
Dancing Wrench of Bane from kingdom DnD recruiting
SaNines Shed at kingdom Unknown Home at WARRR
(in war relations )
Yep, that was me. Thanks for sharing with everyone :)Quote:
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray ) razed 25 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray () razed 21 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray ( razed 18 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray () razed 15 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
I really wish that those people would stop pushing you into a higher GBP bracket so I can be done with this already.Quote:
All the haters are doing ridicule damages on my province :
February 17 of YR2 Dorpat () invaded Quad tap you 4 X a day () and captured 1 acre of land.
Only 34 from my KD, so I'm assuming that you've received at least 7 more attacks since you're claiming well over 40.Quote:
I have received well over 40 attacks with armies, plus inumerable ops, in constant greed, riots ,droughts, plague and so on . And again, im single-handedly surviving against the haters.
This is a victory for goodness and all that is right .
lol That's pretty much all that I have to say about that, so I'll say it again. lolQuote:
And after seeing all this survival, the haters may rally up even stronger forces and allies and the hater alliance will proably grow, and if that is the case , i will not survive the day.
Other than that, if its the same number of haters hitting one me, ill live forever , and thrive and prosper and grow.
By any case, if I do die, let it be know that i died because the haters killed me, out of hate.
Boko, you shall suffer the same fate as these other feeble peons! Prepare to die! (in case someone doesn't pick up the joke, that's what it is.)
How's that for a long post?
half of it is gojete's, so you fail lol
Meh, 1339 words were mine. lol It would have been awesome if I'd have trimmed it down by 2 words to make it 1337 :P What can I say, I believe that Gojete will always have me beaten in long, rambling posts. ;)