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Realest,
I briefly played as monarch in a ghetto KD years ago. So I haven't ever dealt with this but would like to the strategy of all this. I was wondering about the big picture KD relations aspect of the game.
Specifically involving CF's, CF Terms, War terms, etc. I was wondering how that works. How the big boys operate. Thank you for your time. And thank you for this thread. Very helpful, learned alot from it this age.
I don't think its possible to transcend divine boundaries Mr. Proteus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
You acquire an advantage and use said advantage to impose the terms you wish. Often it comes down to a compromise, and everyone goes back to lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by RomPat
Hey Realest,
I used to play super mage. And it was fun. Is it still possible in today's game? Is it still practical in today's game?
yes it is possible. practicality just depends on you.
hey realest,
i was wondering if it would be possible to build another kd that pwns everyone as hard as the last kd we built before next age.
your's truly,
the biggest nub ever.
Been there done that re: Age 50 Dreams. Didn't you get the memo?
Realest how old are you?
How important is utopia to you?
Who do you think the best warring (honour?) kingdom is out now?
These are some questions not in your interview but i am interested.
Thanks Realest.
I'm 24, and utopia is just something I'm good at without trying, which gives the misconception to people that I have to put in immense effort to dominate. I play for fun at this point with a collection of the best kingdom mates I met over the years. Bluntly put, its not important to me, except that its a means to keep ties with some adequate dude and dudettes.
I believe the game is played at the nw/land level, thus honour is a useless ****ty crown. Arguing for the best honour kingdom is like picking out the strongest kid in a cancer ward.
oh..... dude.
Thanks for the down to earth answers, much prefered to the interview answers
i found going for networth/land is a little boring... it's something only 3 or 4 KD's seem to commit to as a target... most are out for successful wars of which honor could be seen as a measure albeit not a very good one.
anyway, cheers
I would agree with that, if only we actually got a reasonable amount of honor for a war win. 3% just seems...well, rather low for the amount of time some wars can drag on. In my most recent ww, I ended up banking a whole 48 extra honor at the end of it. As such, it seems to make a poor measuring stick for anything, other than aiming for that particular crown.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Imp
EDIT: Noticed the last part of your post after my little tangent there. ;)
honor is worthless unless you use it to grow. plain and simple. and that's not really a viable strat anymore, so honor remains worthless.
and syntie, i did miss that memo =(
its ok, we never thought to invite you anyway.
how the **** did i get bumped to the 2nd page, damn dark azn spamming.
Love you too realest.
That was uncalled for - should've just went with "we were full anyway, goddamn bubus insist on bringing the whole family".Quote:
Originally Posted by Realest
it is what it is.
k, back and doin werk. holla atcha boy.
this thread keeps trying to die. just let it die
i dont have an answer for why you are mad. please try again later
Why has Merchant crept up as the personality of choice over Sage recently?
merchant and sage are really 1a/1b if you mean for a core personality. It depends on your kingdom goal for which one works better. In ghettos, you can't beat sage imo (I play one) but if you want to compete, merchant is just too good.
But why is merch too good? I just don't get it. I would imagine that a good sage player can maintain 20% income science pretty easily. Then you account for all the other science categories and stack that up against Merchant and merch just seems to get pummeled. Even if you account for the science that Merchant can build up, not only do they need more of it but it can get stripped away pretty easily, at least compared to a Sage.
Double banks man, on top of the default + income %.
Sage can't compete with that, even if you max out your alchemy science absurdly high!
gold makes utopia go round and round.
Merchant has been the personality of choice at the top at least for every age since merchant got their doubly effective banks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
The entire game at the top is based on who gets off to the fastest start. If you're larger you make more income, if you make more income you make more troops, if you have more troops you take their land. Merchant gets off to the fastest start. Not only is it a 50% income boost compared to sage, but sage is spending its money on sciences just to get to the level to compete, so Merchant likely has double the income with which to train troops with early.
So the sage kingdoms have to stay less than half the merchant kingdoms' size not to get farmed by the merchants, putting them in range early of the warring/waving kingdoms which further hurts their growth.
Next thing you know, merchants are triple the size and it doesn't matter if Sage can beat them 1/1 a few weeks later, because they're no longer in networth range of them.
At this point in the age, I'd much rather be a sage kingdom fighting an equally sized merchant kingdom. But if you're a good merchant kingdom you're double the size of a sage kingdom by now.
Thanks :)
money is good for max gains. Sage is good to build up for max gains, however, build up takes too long. Potential is great, but investment is too high esp in a small game.
Merchant is highly flexible.
I've warred Merchant kingdoms. When pumped their income is insane and even when FB'ed their income is still acceptable.
The only issue is that the majority of the kingdoms tend to hit a cap on their potential. They don't have the activity/discipline to compete with the bigger kingdoms and therefore will hit a wall. They can pump all that extra money into science but it'll make them learn farms unless they run 30% Schools. A Merchant kd where the 50% of the Merchants have to wait on the rest (which happens in average kingdoms) will most likely get the top 50% of that kingdom farmed. Then mid-age they get overtaken by other personalities (definitely Sage, possibly Cleric)
thats why i said it depends on your age goals. For inactives and ghettos (like myself), Sage is very good.
When you lead Sonata why did you go orc/elf core for the first age then full DE the second age?
every age has its +/-. Can't remember what the races were like for each age but obviously I pick the races I feel are the strongest.
Strongest often equals fastest. DE was one of the weaker races comparing them 1 on 1, but DE was significantly larger than everyone else that age right out of protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realest
80% of the past 10 ages have been won by whoever was largest 2 days out of protection, and those that weren't were at least 3rd and only a few acres behind. No rune costs allowed DE to severly outgrow everyone else, because of the runecost formula making everyone else run 40% towers to compete in size.
Dwarf is the 3rd best race in head to head battles (orc and avian are both much better) but dwarf started the fastest with no build costs and +25% effective towers. The top 2-3 kingdoms right outta protection were all dwarf and they're the top 2-3 kingdoms now.
was DE 0 rune cost that age? I honestly dont remember. Sounds familiar tho :p I think the Orc/Elf age, we didnt start off growing. We were actually taking our sweet time with waves then we emptied pool.
Might have to ask Syntico as his memory is much better than mine.
We didn't grow in protection on the orc age but whored passively oop to keep up with the feeding requirements of 5 killers. Orcs were the best attacker in terms of military numbers (8/5) and +gains and elves still had tog at that point. DE age did have 0 rune cost as we diced massively from protection then were lucky enough to have a ghetto over retaliate and give us a button to continue farming acres in war while we used tog to pump. That was the only war Sonata ever withdrew from, due to their monarch not being online promptly at mintime to do so himself.
where is this memory coming from, octo. I thought you did drugs.
I save what little memory I have for the important things in life!