Did Sanct and Mother Advice notice?

I will gladly hold your money in escrow. Money doesnt matter to me, so you know you can trust me with it.

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Originally Posted by Realest

I will gladly hold your money in escrow. Money doesnt matter to me, so you know you can trust me with it.

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Proteus:
Its the remix
im the ****
im fresh up in this b****

Realest:
Proteus in this b****
Realest up in this b****
We done told you mothaf*****
Now you know who is da s**t!

Proteus:
I got them diamonds on my neck
got patron in my cup
shawty if you want it come and get it
cause i dont give a f#**

Realest:
Yay is the building let everybody know
I got the world in my hand
And I aint gonna let it go

Kuhan:
Proteus in this b##*#
Realest in this b#***
We done told you mothaf*****
Now you know who the s**t

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Actually I was quiet the entire time as I was not leading that age as I was working a lot that summer which is common knowledge if you ask around, I came back to actively leading at beginning of freeze last age. Obviously if I do not have enough time to even lead why would I have time for forums.

Encouraging people to rob those who are holding gc to "punish" them is basically what you are doing. If smaller kds want to rob bigger kds they can do so on their own, they do not need someone coordinating/instructing them, etc. Same way that group of cows with kuhan/veritas etc did not need someone like flogger to coordinate their actions, it was none of his business. Generally people who do that kinda thing are just desperate to win at all costs.

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I think it is just becoming common knowledge now that the top pump at 20% draft with barely no Tpa and nothing but a cf will come at the end of it due to the top not wanting to waste growth time retaliating.

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Originally Posted by goodz

It costs me like 20m to retrain to 2TPA say. It also reduces daily income by say 5m. So I presume you can understand why i felt it was worth risk of leaving tpa at 0. I had planned to leave it there for a few more days even after I released to let a guy rob. In end I lost about 25m gc on my prov. But I have released a few others times during the age when we needed the TB to put up a bank easily. It is what it is like I said.

I just wish a KD would not leak me doing it to the entire world without any provocation from my kd.

They were given an advantage in that fortified didn't work as intended by devs and they were able to steal a couple hundred million gc in it. I don't think anyone was saying they abused mechanics...

anyway meh this whole thing is stupid I just want my monies back!

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Running 0 thieves is fine, but it does have some risks. One of the risks is the taunt banner you have received (which I find very appropriate).

I wish those kind of banners were posted more often. I also wish people all around the game realized that they shouldn't give topKD's free gold (by letting them get away with such a thing).

Isn't stealing and resending runes the most effetive for TB fixing btw?

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Originally Posted by csarmi

Running 0 thieves is fine, but it does have some risks. One of the risks is the taunt banner you have received (which I find very appropriate).

I wish those kind of banners were posted more often. I also wish people all around the game realized that they shouldn't give topKD's free gold (by letting them get away with such a thing).

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multiple kingdoms starting opping us within 15 minutes of elits post on here. That is why i complained about being target shared in forum. The banner came 2h and 15m after dorje posting our intel in here.

But yes csarmi i understand the risks. The entire top is stupid. Someone should just come farm us all.

Main problem top to be stupid is ABS politic for recruit any one. Back in age 50 we had many kds compete and maybe record for number cows in server. What we have now. WB from SG joined rage, Hesus from Fratzia joined Rage, Coss from sleepy joined Rage. Its leaders/co from 3 good non abs kds now joined in abs. Soon almost every ex non abs leader will join abs kd. Why? Because its very hard to compete alone vs 3-4 kds. They can play lazy and spend minimal time but you cant. Run cows with 0 thieves for week and provs wiith 10 dpa is good example. You cant play like this on midle/low rank size and when few kds pump on 20-30 draft and 1 kd need to play proper its remind me David vs Goliath battle. There need few more kds and its cant be done from new ppl/leaders so easy. Its why ppl should stop join abs kds and spend 1-2 ages for build his kds. Its time for hoh to grow and leave abs too. If you don't compete with strong kds your chart don't have any value and atm abs+hoh have max 1 kd per age for compete. Complete wasted ages and zero chart value from win for abs/hoh.

Well, if it helps goodz, I've found you by chance.

I was taking my usual look at the topKD'd, saw the banners and got some sots/infis going.

*so bored i'm making banners*

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Originally Posted by csarmi

Running 0 thieves is fine, but it does have some risks. One of the risks is the taunt banner you have received (which I find very appropriate).

I wish those kind of banners were posted more often. I also wish people all around the game realized that they shouldn't give topKD's free gold (by letting them get away with such a thing).

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I totaly agree with this.

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Originally Posted by jdorje

One reason it's more effective now is that cows have silly income. Typically you will have +1m hourly income (with tog) on extreme science...what are you going to do with that money? Running 50k thieves lowers your hourly income by like 300k (7m a day). Even if some ghetto does rob all your cash, you're still going to have 200m spare after pumping come wartime. But better to let your own kingdom take it.

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I don't see why goodz is complaining then. I'd support taunting kingdoms who run 0 thieves on their cows or any other province who has resources in overflow.

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Originally Posted by goodz

It costs me like 20m to retrain to 2TPA say. It also reduces daily income by say 5m. So I presume you can understand why i felt it was worth risk of leaving tpa at 0. I had planned to leave it there for a few more days even after I released to let a guy rob. In end I lost about 25m gc on my prov. But I have released a few others times during the age when we needed the TB to put up a bank easily. It is what it is like I said.

I just wish a KD would not leak me doing it to the entire world without any provocation from my kd.

They were given an advantage in that fortified didn't work as intended by devs and they were able to steal a couple hundred million gc in it. I don't think anyone was saying they abused mechanics...

anyway meh this whole thing is stupid I just want my monies back!

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A kingdom? You mean one of the many that are aware of it? I hardly play atm and I'm aware of it. I'm sure many others are. Easy to blame Elit but better to blame yourself for it. You take the risk with your 0 thieves, if you then end up loosing gold it's only yourself to blame. If you'd just spend those 20mil, you'd probably loose less in the long run.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Actually I was quiet the entire time as I was not leading that age as I was working a lot that summer which is common knowledge if you ask around, I came back to actively leading at beginning of freeze last age. Obviously if I do not have enough time to even lead why would I have time for forums.

Encouraging people to rob those who are holding gc to "punish" them is basically what you are doing. If smaller kds want to rob bigger kds they can do so on their own, they do not need someone coordinating/instructing them, etc. Same way that group of cows with kuhan/veritas etc did not need someone like flogger to coordinate their actions, it was none of his business. Generally people who do that kinda thing are just desperate to win at all costs.

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Why is it wrong? I thought it was fair to just pump on low draft, but when ya think about it; it's just plain wrong :p

Since when is coordinating things something Abs doesn't like? Is this another privilege purely reserved for Abs? Lol. It's really getting into your head is it? :p

How many times has Abs sent kingdoms like DoA, Fury/Trinity at others to protect your flagships and stall your competition?

The day coordinating stops, alliances are gone. It would be good for competition, but you know it aint going to happen!

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Originally Posted by Cello

At the time Elit mentioned it in this thread it was already common knowledge amongst players that it was happening. The fact that Elit broke his own code of ethics is probably because he was getting more and more pissed off at dorje accusing us of abusing a game mechanic, when we weren't. Not a good reason, I guess, but people do strange things when they get pissed off at being falsely accused.

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Then I guess by ABS should break their code of ethics to prove all the accusations Elit has done over the past ages. What a lame excuse.

A bad apple hiding under a pretend code of ethics doesn't need to break anything, just be true to yourself Elit! Cheat and be lame as much as you want, you'll feel much better!! :)

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Originally Posted by tak3shi

Then I guess by ABS should break their code of ethics to prove all the accusations Elit has done over the past ages. What a lame excuse.

A bad apple hiding under a pretend code of ethics doesn't need to break anything, just be true to yourself Elit! Cheat and be lame as much as you want, you'll feel much better!! :)

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So honestly, what did they do to you? Did they steal your candy? Cause you seem to have a personal vendetta against them.

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Originally Posted by korp

so honestly, what did they do to you? Did they steal your candy? Cause you seem to have a personal vendetta against them.

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tak3shi smash!

they gotta work the crowd so they get a reason to powerplay before all of this is over

:)

A feeling of gayness is starting to rush over this thread, someone noticed someone, but that someone has no balls to give button.

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Originally Posted by Korp

So honestly, what did they do to you? Did they steal your candy? Cause you seem to have a personal vendetta against them.

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Haters gonna hate Korp:)
I think he is funny :)

I also think Rage should recruit him. They are building a sort of "all star" team there;)

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Originally Posted by Korp

So honestly, what did they do to you? Did they steal your candy? Cause you seem to have a personal vendetta against them.

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I've this urge incredible to call out people for what they are. As for personal nah, only when time permits Life is taking a toll man.

More like I stole your candy ;)

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Originally Posted by ZodZilla

tak3shi smash!

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slam bam thank you ma'am!!

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

Havoc have 2 from his cows with 0 thives. Make sure sanctuary and havoc have in game CF or its not hard to accuse you in intra alliance farming gold...

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Isn't this a clear blatant target sharing? Where's the ban or suspension?

King of low blow moves: Elit
King of hypocrisy: Elit: "What I blame abs for doing, no one else can do except me"

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Originally Posted by tak3shi

Isn't this a clear blatant target sharing? Where's the ban or suspension?

King of low blow moves: Elit
King of hypocrisy: Elit: "What I blame abs for doing, no one else can do except me"

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Not really, no one reported it anyway so its a moot point at this stage.

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Originally Posted by prot

Why is it wrong? I thought it was fair to just pump on low draft, but when ya think about it; it's just plain wrong :p

Since when is coordinating things something Abs doesn't like? Is this another privilege purely reserved for Abs? Lol. It's really getting into your head is it? :p

How many times has Abs sent kingdoms like DoA, Fury/Trinity at others to protect your flagships and stall your competition?

The day coordinating stops, alliances are gone. It would be good for competition, but you know it aint going to happen!

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Imho, I don't think sending Trinity/DOA/Fury is helping abs stall lol, especially when they lose 30-50k.

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Originally Posted by tak3shi

Imho, I don't think sending Trinity/DOA/Fury is helping abs stall lol, especially when they lose 30-50k.

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The man's got a point.

I love me a Trinity countergank.

I like a hard counter gank from Amumu myself.

when will they start warar? What are the meters at? and why is sanct losing so much nw? Tell us something!

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Originally Posted by munk

when will they start warar? What are the meters at? and why is sanct losing so much nw? Tell us something!

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God knows when. 0-0. Killing our dragons. Something.

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Originally Posted by csarmi

Isn't stealing and resending runes the most effetive for TB fixing btw?

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Yes it is

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Originally Posted by jdorje

Except we have in-game ceasefires with them, and absalom (unlike our opponents) has no history whatsoever of farming gold, ever.

Oh except we have no in-game ceasefire with havoc now. Lol.



You still think we were farming gc through an in-game ceasefire? Is that why our gc stocks constantly dropped?

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June 6 of YR6 We have proposed a ceasefire offer to Lima Alpha Golf (X:X).
June 6 of YR6 We have withdrawn our ceasefire proposal to Lima Alpha Golf (X:X).
June 18 of YR6 Havoc of Absalom (X:X) has broken their ceasefire agreement with us!
July 4 of YR6 We have entered into a formal ceasefire with Havoc of Absalom (X:X).

Makes you wonder if any gc changed hands during that time.. and why would you need to drop CF with Havoc for 10 hrs? Looks suspicious to me. Shrug... And you're just constantly sending dragons.. no hits or nothing? wtf...

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Originally Posted by munk

June 6 of YR6 We have proposed a ceasefire offer to Lima Alpha Golf (X:X).
June 6 of YR6 We have withdrawn our ceasefire proposal to Lima Alpha Golf (X:X).
June 18 of YR6 Havoc of Absalom (X:X) has broken their ceasefire agreement with us!
July 4 of YR6 We have entered into a formal ceasefire with Havoc of Absalom (X:X).

Makes you wonder if any gc changed hands during that time.. and why would you need to drop CF with Havoc for 10 hrs? Looks suspicious to me. Shrug... And you're just constantly sending dragons.. no hits or nothing? wtf...

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Why of course, actually GC for CF around here! Don't you know.

As for reasons to drop cf, because we are accused for taking gc from our counterpart during our one hit wonder staring contest. In order to proves their innocence, they reluctantly broke their CF with us. So Sanctuary was reluctantly ask for 100 mill gc from each kingdom to re-ally back up. Nothing personal, it's all serious business up here. =D

odd =D

Good staring contest <.><.>

The kingdom that serves notice should have the balls to initiate attacks. We full waved Simians once our agreement time was up of no hostilities. We didn't mess around with a limited amount of hits because we wanted war.

Send a few hits in Sanctuary or something already.....Oh that's right you would get punished in an opp war, and don't want to give up the button vs a pro kd that can fight back. Earn the crown and let the best kd win.

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Originally Posted by Crazy Pete

Good staring contest <.><.>

The kingdom that serves notice should have the balls to initiate attacks. We full waved Simians once our agreement time was up of no hostilities. We didn't mess around with a limited amount of hits because we wanted war.

Send a few hits in Sanctuary or something already.....Oh that's right you would get punished in an opp war, and don't want to give up the button vs a pro kd that can fight back. Earn the crown and let the best kd win.

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If they beat sanc they got to beat 3 more... Least sanc could do is give button.

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Originally Posted by American Badass

If they beat sanc they got to beat 3 more... Least sanc could do is give button.

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but but but .... the art of war taught us that button control is the way of winning

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Originally Posted by Bishop

Not really, no one reported it anyway so its a moot point at this stage.

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I reported it immediatly upon seeing my KD and intel posted in forums. Perhaps your report system is broke!

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Originally Posted by Crazy Pete

The kingdom that serves notice should have the balls to initiate attacks.

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Our ability to initiate (at least in the short term) was lost along with the 200m gc that was stolen through double-fortified. This isn't to whine about the bug (which is over) but to explain why we are now 2.5m nw less and at a moderate disadvantage. If mom wants to initiate (or propose a re-ceasefire) they are of course free to do so.

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Originally Posted by Crazy Pete

Good staring contest <.><.>

The kingdom that serves notice should have the balls to initiate attacks. We full waved Simians once our agreement time was up of no hostilities. We didn't mess around with a limited amount of hits because we wanted war.

Send a few hits in Sanctuary or something already.....Oh that's right you would get punished in an opp war, and don't want to give up the button vs a pro kd that can fight back. Earn the crown and let the best kd win.

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You do realize you're contradicting yourself there, right? Sanctuary noticed us and we're the ones that should initiate hits? :P

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Originally Posted by American Badass

If they beat sanc they got to beat 3 more... Least sanc could do is give button.

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2 more, rage wont be able to fight them. unless MA losses, in which case rage wont fight anyway as Mercy/HoH will just vulture. Thing is Sanc has everything to lose this fight, if they win nicely they effectivly win the age. Theres simply no other "top" kds to farm assuming PewPew doesnt hand the win to a given kd. MA has to have good CF's in place and more than likely win big to counter a homes swap for war #2 (they'll be down in gold). We'll see though, i have no clue how the CF's in MA work nor do i know if abs+hoh want to just win as any of them or if each kd will play for themselves. (if abs wanted to win they chain the undeads in MA, ignor the fearis/banks and force fight #2 w/Ma on 1000 acre undeads.)

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Originally Posted by Persain

2 more, rage wont be able to fight them. unless MA losses, in which case rage wont fight anyway as Mercy/HoH will just vulture. Thing is Sanc has everything to lose this fight, if they win nicely they effectivly win the age. Theres simply no other "top" kds to farm assuming PewPew doesnt hand the win to a given kd. MA has to have good CF's in place and more than likely win big to counter a homes swap for war #2 (they'll be down in gold). We'll see though, i have no clue how the CF's in MA work nor do i know if abs+hoh want to just win as any of them or if each kd will play for themselves. (if abs wanted to win they chain the undeads in MA, ignor the fearis/banks and force fight #2 w/Ma on 1000 acre undeads.)

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or we can stare at each other and keep eye ****in each other ... =D ... odd

There should be some systems in place whereby kd that GIVEs the button, if they win the war the bonuses from it are increased. IE 15% Lan/honor and a modifier to science/credits won. That'd cause kingdoms to give the button!