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And again no links/proof/facts, merely attacks on my person in an attempt so silence me.
Should you expect me to respond to you, start doing the things you demand others to do instead of those discussion technics which are meant to silence me and make me look bad.
ps.
I'm not scorpio86, so i won't be repeating this for 10 more times merely cuz you entered a loop.
Silence you would defeat the purpopse ;)Quote:
And again no links/proof/facts, merely attacks on my person in an attempt so silence me.
I provided links where its been necessary but there is no need to provide any links when you cant even se the difference between appearing unconisicious and unconscious. But you havent really attacked any of my arguments you just complaing about my technics which you done for the last 3 posts now, that is pretty much like scorpio86, repeat one thing over and over again.Quote:
Should you expect me to respond to you, start doing the things you demand others to do instead of those discussion technics which are meant to silence me and make me look bad.
Have fun in your loop.
Might as well been for the best since you obviously dont have anything new to come with and your "Your techniques are so bad" was getting boring already after the first time you posted it :(
Opening a topic for debate and then refusing to debate is not something that we support.Quote:
Originally Posted by scorpio86
Whaling is not something that i support, each to their own, i have already said my opinions on this matter.
yes, i get that you dont support it - but these are discussion forums so you are going to see that people want to discuss topics.
Korp, I wrote a long responce earlier, but it disappeared when I clicked submit.
I've proven in this thread that 9 out of 10 Norwegian whales die on impact, or at least don't feel pain. This is proven with documentation from solid sources in this very thread. Since you jumped into the discussion late, it is not my fault that you challenge already established information without bothering to read up.
Your propaganda site does not mention whales being chopped up while still alive, it mainly focuses on the stress of the whales, that they are drowned before lifted up in the boat to be chopped up etc. (I wonder how cows feel when they are waiting to be killed at a slaughter house) Other sites say nothing about whales being chopped up alive. This Myth is BUSTED.
So, two things are established. 9 out of 10 Norwegian whales die on impact and Japanese whales are not chopped up while being alive, unless you or Scorpio86 have found a good source somewhere that they are being chopped up while alive.
Also, whale hunting in most countries today(with some exceptions like the Farao Islands where they herd the whales on land) is carried out with grenade-tipped harpoons, the same way as Norway does it. If you do a quick search, you will quickly find out that the Japanese also use this method.
So, we've established that Norway kills 9 out 10 whales on impact and Japan uses the same killing method as Norway.... What oh what can that mean? I'll tell you, it means that the Japanese also kill the majority of the whales on impact, but I'm sure Norwegians are better as we are always best in whatever we do according to the media up here.
There is NO documention supporting that whales are being chopped up by the Japanese while still alive. Nothing whatsoever supports this claim. NOTHING!
So, basing an opinion on that would be idiocy and self-inflicted ignorance. This is why it's so important with education so that we have open minds and don't do the same mistakes over and over again. I can't respect an opinion which is solely based on ignorance and neither should you. Let facts rule the world and let's base our opinions on just that. Someone can still think whaling is wrong while basing his opinions on facts, but most don't in this matter.
If you dont bother read what I write, dont write anything at all then cause you will look utterly retarded if you do, let me paste this for you so might comprehend it this time, maybe i should write it in caps as well. Read this again and again and againQuote:
Ive proven in this thread that 9 out of 10 Norwegian whales die on impact, or at least don't feel pain. This is proven with documentation from solid sources in this very thread. Since you jumped into the discussion late, it is not my fault that you challenge already established information without bothering to read up.
"I did read your links that you provided, and if you cant point exactly where in the text i cant see any evidence that support your statements like 9/10 whales dies right away. "
Okey, now thats finished.
You are are lousy at arguing, I have never claimed that they chop them up when they are still alive what ive said is that its inhumane dont mix other peoples opinions please.Quote:
Your propaganda site does not mention whales being chopped up while still alive, it mainly focuses on the stress of the whales, that they are drowned before lifted up in the boat to be chopped up etc. (I wonder how cows feel when they are waiting to be killed at a slaughter house) Other sites say nothing about whales being chopped up alive. This Myth is BUSTED.
As said I didnt find these statistical facts when i checked your links, you could point it out to me thou cause i might have missed it, now you can read it two times maybe you manage to comprehend the information this time?Quote:
So, two things are established. 9 out of 10 Norwegian whales die on impact and Japanese whales are not chopped up while being alive, unless you or Scorpio86 have found a good source somewhere that they are being chopped up while alive.
Nobody has denied that fact either.Quote:
Also, whale hunting in most countries today(with some exceptions like the Farao Islands where they herd the whales on land) is carried out with grenade-tipped harpoons, the same way as Norway does it. If you do a quick search, you will quickly find out that the Japanese also use this method.
So far as you cant read properly you havent proven anything cause I cant find the information as i already pointed out in my previous post, maybe you manage to get it the third time? What kind of retarded logic is that? It depends on several different factors, you propbably understand this as well, just cause you have one weapon doesnt mean you can handle it perfectly..Quote:
So, we've established that Norway kills 9 out 10 whales on impact and Japan uses the same killing method as Norway.... What oh what can that mean? I'll tell you, it means that the Japanese also kill the majority of the whales on impact, but I'm sure Norwegians are better as we are always best in whatever we do according to the media up here.
Yet again, never claimed that but at this point it seems rather obvious that you dont bother reading what people write so it all seems rather hopeless.Quote:
There is NO documention supporting that whales are being chopped up by the Japanese while still alive. Nothing whatsoever supports this claim. NOTHING!
Ironic that you talk about education since you seem to fail in one of the most important skills needed when you take in information, reading comprehension.Quote:
This is why it's so important with education so that we have open minds and don't do the same mistakes over and over again.
If YOU would remember what you wrote only few days ago, you would quickly see that you claimed I could not prove the Japanese use grenade harpoons.... Here's something to refresh your memory:Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
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Originally Posted by Korp
Also, if you take a look at page 6, you will quickly see that 9 out of 10 whales are killed immediately in Norway. Japan use the same technique....
So, is there anything I should read again or might it be that you should read more properly?
Also, you claimed I have no proof that whales are not being chopped up alive.... And now you say you don't claim it, but put the blame on me. A weird way of saying you were wrong.
Even the whale fanatics don't claim whales are being chopped up while still being alive and I have yet to see anything mentioning it, except for Scorpio86 who lives in denial.
Perhaps instead of blaming me, you should look closer in the text and admit you were wrong? It's not my fault you don't read everything and won't admit you were wrong.
9/10 whales, no chopping up alive whales, grenade harpoons. All which you and Scorpio86 have denied, all true.
Btw, did you see the latest Sea Sheperd lie? They accused a Japanese wessel of attacking them with spear hooks today, posting a video. Only one thing, the Japanese also filmed the incident and it clearly shows the Sea Sheperd attacking the Japanese whaler throwing items at the crew. The Japanese crew responded by flushing them away with water.
Paul Watson is a big, fat liar.
There is skullduggery in the southern seas me hearteys.
Greenpeace are acting like idiots, yet they are just human like the rest of us. I think it is good they are standing up for what they beleive in but they must be ready to suffer the consequences of boarding foreign boats.
At least they are being active about what they beleive in. Give them Ak-47's i say.
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Originally Posted by scorpio86
Agreed! However, no human has the right to harass others.
I guess you cant read or you cant think or you are just plain stupid. What you are quoting is my reply to you claiming Norwegians does so japanese people must do so as well!Quote:
If YOU would remember what you wrote only few days ago, you would quickly see that you claimed I could not prove the Japanese use grenade harpoons.... Here's something to refresh your memory:
Seriously, are you just trolling now are you that stupid for real? Ive asked where it says that in four posts now and yet you keep repeating the same sentence again and again.Quote:
Also, if you take a look at page 6, you will quickly see that 9 out of 10 whales are killed immediately in Norway. Japan use the same technique....
So, is there anything I should read again or might it be that you should read more properly?
Quote me where I said that, the only thing ive said is that its inhumane killing.Quote:
Also, you claimed I have no proof that whales are not being chopped up alive.... And now you say you don't claim it, but put the blame on me. A weird way of saying you were wrong.
Even the whale fanatics don't claim whales are being chopped up while still being alive and I have yet to see anything mentioning it, except for Scorpio86 who lives in denial.
Ive asked in several posts where it says that yet you cant be arsed to explain that which leads me to think that you dont have any proof of it. Otherwise you could have ended this discussion one post after my question yet you havent, you just keep writing same **** over and over again, much alike what scorpio86 does.Quote:
9/10 whales, no chopping up alive whales, grenade harpoons. All which you and Scorpio86 have denied, all true.
tone it down please.
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