NTSH v. NOOBS

Probably the best War I've had in Ages, Congratz Noobs! <3



* Kingdom news report **
For the time from January 24 of YR4 till March 4 of YR6 - 365 hours

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 2,150 (44,644 acres)
-- Traditional march: 1,700 (41,338 acres)
-- Ambush: 97 (3,147 acres)
-- Conquest: 9 (159 acres)
-- Raze: 34 (0 acres)
-- Massacre: 113 (135,266 population)
-- Abduct: 146
-- Failed: 51 (2.5% failure)
-- Uniques: 654
Total attacks suffered: 2,081 (53,082 acres)
-- Traditional march: 1,340 (51,346 acres)
-- Ambush: 49 (1,736 acres)
-- Raze: 106 (0 acres)
-- Massacre: 407 (108,008 population)
-- Abduct: 45
-- Failed: 134 (6.6% failure)
-- Uniques: 624

** The kingdom of NOOBS **
Total land exchanged: -8,438 (2150/2081)
+878 An unknown province (15/0)
+355 WeeWeeJunky (85/22)
+300 Hype (89/33)
+198 Hyperion (67/1)
+114 Blixten (55/0)
+62 Hellforge (43/0)
+29 Glitters Sparkles and Rainbows (93/37)
-41 Splitfire (112/34)
-138 Prepare for trouble (77/11)
-156 Clyde (9/56)
-365 Dark rose (104/99)
-368 Raptor (83/113)
-378 Muumimaa (105/97)
-401 White Rose (112/147)
-546 Ducks (122/109)
-598 SilentBlizzardsRagingAllaround (117/98)
-638 Chocolate Keebler (91/166)
-693 Parody (103/125)
-724 Scaly things (111/183)
-734 Make it double (110/145)
-767 A Dark Elf Princess (122/162)
-775 Hamsterfication (107/99)
-780 Mountain (108/125)
-888 GlitterFarts (91/114)
-1,384 Homo-sapien (19/105)


** The kingdom of NTSH **
Total land exchanged: +8,438 (2079/2150)
+6,809 An unknown province (99/0)
+1,711 Moccasin Manhunter (102/4)
+1,684 Dank Virtues (60/14)
+1,253 Panther (61/4)
+1,120 Argon (73/19)
+857 Valor (40/5)
+754 nastyland (13/0)
+589 CrazyDarkElfLord (98/9)
+512 Walking Dead (31/21)
+490 Evolution500 (73/5)
+474 Blitz III (75/1)
+391 Cube (94/14)
+239 Aykii the Mawsy (85/6)
+116 Pandora (63/7)
+77 Cryosis (36/4)
+59 Changeling (104/7)
-271 Not A Sex Innuendo (54/54)
-374 Plamen (110/125)
-458 DeadManAttacking (123/149)
-609 Dryadsarepeopletoo (97/350)
-729 Royal Flush (109/360)
-740 So Many Draugrs (102/219)
-864 x4rced (98/123)
-926 KangKungUtd (108/226)
-1,827 Remember 1-14 Of Age 72 (80/126)
-1,899 Gooch town (91/298)

** Uniques for NOOBS **
White Rose - 34
Ducks - 33
A Dark Elf Princess - 33
Parody - 32
Hamsterfication - 32
Mountain - 32
WeeWeeJunky - 31
SilentBlizzardsRagingAllaround - 31
Make it double - 31
Scaly things - 31
GlitterFarts - 30
Chocolate Keebler - 30
Muumimaa - 30
Raptor - 30
Hype - 30
Splitfire - 30
Glitters Sparkles and Rainbows - 29
Dark rose - 29
Prepare for trouble - 25
Blixten - 23
Hyperion - 22
Hellforge - 17
Homo-sapien - 6
Clyde - 3

** Uniques for NTSH **
DeadManAttacking - 33
CrazyDarkElfLord - 30
x4rced - 29
Dryadsarepeopletoo - 29
Gooch town - 29
Royal Flush - 29
So Many Draugrs - 29
Moccasin Manhunter - 28
Remember 1-14 Of Age 72 - 28
Plamen - 28
Dank Virtues - 28
KangKungUtd - 28
Argon - 28
Changeling - 27
Cube - 25
Panther - 25
Aykii the Mawsy - 24
Walking Dead - 24
Blitz III - 23
Not A Sex Innuendo - 23
Evolution500 - 21
Valor - 19
Pandora - 17
Cryosis - 15
nastyland - 5


Dragon sent to 6:9 on April 22 of YR4
January 24 of YR4 - War declared by NTSH
March 4 of YR6 - NTSH withdrew from war


-DM <3

Hmm. 15-day ghetto war. Losing kingdom withdraws up acres because, I mean really, who wants to spend 2 weeks in some lame ghetto war?

should have gone avian, top uniques is barely 2 a day for both kingdoms

Will there be a b2b?

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Originally Posted by Madchess

should have gone avian, top uniques is barely 2 a day for both kingdoms

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Dark elf is the shiny new thing this age, so we want to play with it. Gotta try new things every now and then. We had fast attackers last age, so hybrids it is for this one.

2 weeks of no sleep... coffee and redbull is my best friend :) And dont hate on Dark elfs, they are fun :)

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Originally Posted by realm of ding dong

Losing kingdom withdraws up acres because, I mean really, who wants to spend 2 weeks in some lame ghetto war?

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Winners

Game mechanics have made it almost impossible to create a massive nw advantage. So wars are dragging a week if both kingdoms are equal at start of the war. I am curious if ntsh wd out of the fact there was nothing left to gain and they knew the noobs would just drag forever. Or was it the fact that noobs created unbreakables? Ghetto I am playing in this age just had a long war and the other kingdom dragged hoping we would get sloppy. Which we did seeing we are a ghetto and they ended up winning. But with opts being so easy and hitting up so rediculus it's really hard to ever create massive nw advantage if both kingdoms are equal pre war.

Noobs had 6 unbreakables that massacred the opposing t/ms to bits. NTSH had almost no peasants, thieves or wizards left in their kd and didnt even have the offense to conquest those faeries anymore while we were simply controlling everything with fb, ns and ms. Our next step would've been to push those 6 fae to 2k acres and with that econ aid up the dark elves. From that position, it wouldnt take long before we'd be able to go for a nw win. Like I said before, we dont drag wars, but we continue until either we won or our opponents took away our ability to win.

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Originally Posted by Uhm hoi

Noobs had 6 unbreakables that massacred the opposing t/ms to bits. NTSH had almost no peasants, thieves or wizards left in their kd and didnt even have the offense to conquest those faeries anymore while we were simply controlling everything with fb, ns and ms. Our next step would've been to push those 6 fae to 2k acres and with that econ aid up the dark elves. From that position, it wouldnt take long before we'd be able to go for a nw win. Like I said before, we dont drag wars, but we continue until either we won or our opponents took away our ability to win.

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You missed the point of my post. At what point did you create unbreakables. See most ghettos have a 72 tick window to keep people engaged and army in and out. After that people slack, stop caring etc. Now I am not saying this is the case but in my experience keeping people engaged for week long wars is like pulling teeth. Hence when I say you dragged the war long enough to over come a war that you where losing. I am interested in game mechanics and effect of them, then the actual outcome of your ghetto war. ;)

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Originally Posted by Coldhearted

You missed the point of my post. At what point did you create unbreakables. See most ghettos have a 72 tick window to keep people engaged and army in and out. After that people slack, stop caring etc. Now I am not saying this is the case but in my experience keeping people engaged for week long wars is like pulling teeth. Hence when I say you dragged the war long enough to over come a war that you where losing. I am interested in game mechanics and effect of them, then the actual outcome of your ghetto war. ;)

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I still don't get the point I think. You have players in your kingdom that want to war, but 3 days in they change their mind about liking wars or something? Seems strange to me. This was not an issue in this war for either kingdom. Activity was good throughout the entire war for both kingdoms, which is normal for the kd's we usually war. Of course some stuff can come up irl, but we just set sitter when needed. At no point we were clearly losing and again, we don't drag wars.

I personally like the longer wars. The most memorable ones are those that are very close for a long time and both kd's have to try a variety of tactics to gain the upperhand. This was one of those wars.

And the faeries started out with high defense of course, and only a few in NTSH could break them. We chained or NS'ed those that could, but I don't remember exctly how long that took (that occured at the start of the war, 2,5 weeks ago, don't judge). We did train around 60k offense per faery during war though, which was what was needed to hit their highest def t/m's.

1) How are we Ghetto? Both Teams had great activity, and followed their strats for better or worse.
2) Like honestly, if you have nothing nice to say, please don't say anything at all, I posted this so ppl could see the stats.

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Originally Posted by realm of ding dong

Hmm. 15-day ghetto war. Losing kingdom withdraws up acres because, I mean really, who wants to spend 2 weeks in some lame ghetto war?

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Originally Posted by Coldhearted

I am interested in game mechanics and effect of them, then the actual outcome of your ghetto war. ;)

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"His Jest shall savour but shallow wit, when thousands more weep than did laugh it"

-DM <3

Trolls call all kingdoms ghettos nowadays. It has changed the word to have no meaning anymore. Just ignore them. Don't feed the trolls

Stop being so sensitive, jeez.

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Originally Posted by LuckySports

Trolls call all kingdoms ghettos nowadays. It has changed the word to have no meaning anymore. Just ignore them. Don't feed the trolls

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That's ghetto logic

What's wrong with being a ghetto? No pressure to have to win any crowns so you can have fun in wars like these is the most fun way to play this game.

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Originally Posted by Coldhearted

Stop being so sensitive, jeez.

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Hardly sensitive, just sad that some posters have nothing positive to say and instead of being decent ppl, write something only they find funny. I guess I just expect too much from humanity.

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Originally Posted by Palem

That's ghetto logic

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More like the common sense of a mature adult.

-DM <3

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Originally Posted by Zombies are people too

More like the common sense of a mature adult.

-DM <3

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See how you inferred a negative impression? That means ghetto isn't a meaningless word :)

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Originally Posted by Palem

See how you inferred a negative impression? That means ghetto isn't a meaningless word :)

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Originally Posted by LuckySports

Just ignore them. Don't feed the trolls

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Sorry, I should've been more clear I was referring to this^

I don't think Ghetto is negative; to me it refers to Non-War, Non-Growth KDs where individualism flourishes and people do what they want. Some people enjoy solo play, and I wish them the best of fun :D

Calling our war a lame ghetto is pretty much belittling the effort these 50 players put into a good, clean and most enjoyable war. I'd just prefer the hosers keep the lame jokes to themselves and stop dirtying up our thread.

-DM <3

I guess there are different definitions of what is a ghetto... To me, a ghetto is any kd not currently in a crown race. Those having a chance to win land/nw are the top kds, those having a chance to win war/honour crowns are the warkd's, the rest are ghetto's. Which isn't a bad thing, I enjoy good wars without having to worry about anything else in game in the meantime.

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Originally Posted by realm of ding dong

Hmm. 15-day ghetto war. Losing kingdom withdraws up acres because, I mean really, who wants to spend 2 weeks in some lame ghetto war?

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Its not the word GHETTO that's offensive, its the word "lame".

I am sure Mom has told you ad nauseam, the world does not revolve around you. and.. If you cant say something nice, say nothing at all.
Starburst *** Fun is had at all levels. bottom to top. Ignore the griefers, salute the constructs.

@Palm: "That's ghetto logic". As a Mod you should be above the grief.

To quote the immortal WAR, The world is a ghetto. What did you hear your Mama say?

You're pleasantly unassuming.

I'm not fond of organized kingdoms because of the restrictive environment, particularly in war and out of war :)
There's really not much difference between organized and unorganized kingdoms insofar as potential. A few leadership tweaks and the willingness to say no to most bottom feeders and you're operationally almost there.

let me add my thougths on the matter too, to me a ghetto is a kingdom where no one follow orders or do random stupid stuff, activity is low and you can't perform the same like a similair sized kingdom except if you go up against another ghetto.

I've lead some in the past, and can say I much prefer a smaller number of players if they know what they are doing over a 22 or 25 man ghetto.

Oh yes whenever someone think their kingdom is all great and go on a "we are so superior" kind of rant I'll call them ghettos too if I disagree with that view which I mostly does, or when someone comes thretening to FSU.

I see both kingdoms in this conflict dropped one player each, had they been true ghettos arround 15 or so would have remained on the losing side for such a long war and it could in truth have been scorned as a ghetto slugfest. I've seen that happen and had that happen several times in the past for much shorter wars because there are no sense of the team in ghettos. My suggestion would to get growing, there is little value in picking a fight 24 vs 22 so get in range of other kingdoms on +22 should be a priority.

ghet·to
/ˈɡedō/

noun: ghetto; plural noun: ghettoes; plural noun: ghettos

1. any utopian kingdom that cannot be accurately described as a super-kingdom. after age 50 this encompassed all known kingdoms.
"I wish there were somewhere better than this ghetto."
synonyms: slum

adjective: ghetto

1. pertaining to or having characteristics of a ghetto
2. noting something that is considered to be unrefined, low-class, cheap, or inferior to a super-kingdom.
"Simians is seriously ghetto. I mean so are we, but jesus."

Looks a good war.

Fae and DE must be fun to play.

Always nice to see Faes enter god mode and kill other TM's =)

Just wanted to note a few things:

Uniques per prov were lowered since anon attackers were used extensively in parts of the war.

We were up 10k acres for pretty much 75% of the war, but on no account did Noobs ever "draw out" the war, they had a strat that took 1.5 weeks to really start playing out - and we withdrew once it became clear that we would not be able to counter it. Noobs ended up with unbreakables we could not take down, and really, with more faeries than us we were doomed from the start =P

I'll freely admit to being ghetto =P But Noobs were top notch =P And I thank them for a fun, well-played war.

That's Ghetto Gospel

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That's Ghetto Gospel

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Next time try alliteration

Great Ghetto Gospel

Don't tell me how to live my life

To those who wish to be a part of awesome wars like this; noobs is recruiting!

NTSH has more nice ppl, join them. Noobs appears to be... NOOBISH

ahh its a month from my Forum birthgay