Hahaha, a third topic on same subject ... Let the whining begin!
** The kingdom of TBB **
Total land exchanged: -15,087 (0/39)
How's that for added drama?
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Hahaha, a third topic on same subject ... Let the whining begin!
** The kingdom of TBB **
Total land exchanged: -15,087 (0/39)
How's that for added drama?
Less talk...... Moar pew pew.
Top 5 is so over dramatic. We just want to hug someone in this dire time of need.
This is the last one of these I'm allowing lol
Pew Pew Pew
With huggies for Palem
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It's not a real hostile when the other party is at war. Lets be serious. ****play gets ****played. Maybe TBB just wanna farm out to Bio. ?
I assume that Diabeticmoose is just trolling at this point, better to just ignore. If anyone has a serious question about the situation more than happy to chime in with the facts but I think everything has been stated at this point...
Let's make it more fun... bring in Glory and Rabbits!
Seems to me it would be in tbb's interest to war BIO. Go legit for a minute, war for real and then, win or lose, pump in eow. Eezy peezy lemon squeezy. The U gonna be on ya regardless, make it harder with war protection.
Eezy peezy lemon squeezy orange springy
I am TBB so not a troll.. Me and Erv tried to speak after this all got out of hand with Poh with no luck (happy to export entire chat here) Ive been way to busy for any sort of involvement other then filling boxes and clicking buttons but seems to me things got out of hand and i asked Poh (Previous Monarch) to leave.
If we were interested in war with u i wouldnt of reached out to Rob to negotiate a CF because at the end of the day we could war but we couldnt war in peace therefore i tried to speak CF terms to only get delayed and vague response at the end. I know the game im not stupid.. Erv from THE U has told me straight up in a chat which i also play Fantasy Football with so i have the entire chat if interested that there is no hope to reach terms between TBB and THE U therefore he said He have an ongoing hostile and mentioned BIO is technically hitting into his Hostile. SO sure we could of worked out war terms but Erv guaranteed me to crap play and continue hitting us hostile or not its hard to even have a fair fight at this point so i wanted resolved and moved on
So is this the real BiO or just someone who stole the name?
Maybe if you showed even an iota of humility for YOUR actions we could talk. I still haven't seen ANYTHING publicly from you or any other TBB member even acknowledging that you did anything wrong by waving into our conflict with Sparta. On top of that you had plenty of opportunities to end this with a CF but made insane demands all along the way (almost like you were coordinating with Ronin...., but you would NEVER do that would you?)
Why would we leave you alone under those circumstances?
The YOUR actions is pointed to Poh and Not me i had literally nothing to do with this until i reached out to Erv like 24 hrs ago but offered no real solution or any way this conflict can end all he could say was maybe work on relations next age which is obvious on ur motives. Im not going to admit any wrong doing in anything i was no a part of all i know is both KD's if you want to look at it from both sides BOTH did really crappy things either intentional dodging or hitting into hostile whatever crap. The insane demand u speak of was regaining our acres u took from a agreed B2B in return for a CF how is that insane?
? Are you saying that someone else in TBB was responsible for the actions of the kingdom? Do you have some sort of rotating dictator leadership structure?? Actually that sounds sorta cool, tell me more :)
Anyway -- A few points.
- The MAIN issue, and which has not been addressed, so the blatant wave into our hostile with Sparta.
- In previous posts I said that all of the other actions, on both sides, are not a big deal. Sure they probably didn't create a lot of goodwill on both sides but there are well within Utopian "norms" -- In that vein it is complete BS to try to put all that stuff under one basket and just say "BOTH sides did really crappy things". NO, that is NOT what happened. We both did some questionable diplo in the early age and then YOUR kingdom choose to blatantly wave into our hostile with Sparta. THEN we waved you directly after a questionable war, broke CF BEFORE any hits and hit you as soon as we could IN retaliation for your earlier 2v1. The fact that you still see this as a "both sides" thing is why we are not going to be able to come to any sorta of agreement.
- Asking for land back in the middle of our conflict IS insane... After all that happened you asked us to give you, I think it was 8k acres -- which on a side note was MORE than we were up at the time. We have a 100% legitimate reason to wave you and at any time you could have agreed to a normal CF or just manned up and pressed the button... Yea, you would have lost, but it would have been the honorable thing to do.
It's hilarious to hear you speak of fairness. So cute. If we truly believed you were in a legit "hostile," we would respect it. Allow me to demonstrate.
** Kingdom news report **
For the time from July 1 of YR7 till January 7 of YR8 - 31 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]
** Summary **
Total attacks made: 0 (0 acres)
Total attacks suffered: 49 (16,195 acres)
-- Traditional march: 47 (16,195 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (288 acres)
-- Plunder: 1
-- Uniques: 19
Phew, some Intense hostilities right there. We had more hostile action in prosperous.
You don't get to tag hostile at a whim. You can't even technically BE hostile with the U, since it's negated in war. So, actually, you are just a bunch of **** playing cowards hiding under a fake hostile tag since May24YR7.
Going back to my original point. A war benefits TBB. It continues to negate hostile ops from the U, gains on any land attacks greatly reduced AND an EOW pump, win or lose. Seems to me the only thing keeping you from the button is cowardice
[Insert Obama mic drop here]
As i previously mentioned I was too busy and had to step away from any sort of major involvement when i returned to TBB after other adventures i had in other kds. When i saw how out of control this situation got i decided to remove Poh the guy who diplo with u early on and im sure during spartan conflict stuff and is NO LONGER IN THE KINGDOM due to the actions that causes these consequences. SO on TBB behalf i will apologize to TBB for the way the age has shaped for them and Apologies to THE U for how things turned up side down but im not going to sit here and apologize anything further then that because we are both at fault and when i tried to extend good faith i was told to basically F off which im not even mad i get it. TO you point Ronin also had a legitimate reason to wave. All TBB did was war ronin and secured a B2B because how the conflict ended. Even though we had won on the books but we came out smaller on land and honor so we wanted a rematch while we had the benefit of better economy and our TMS were still in better shape then theirs were. Once EOWCF we waved and low and behold you guy hit into a conflict and called it fake and continued and continued and continued which ruined what Ronins wanted was a rematch and you ruined it therefore there wasnt no collaboration of HEY RONIN HIT THE U BECAUSE WE GOT ****PLAYED.. IF anything Ronin got ****played by THE U in this case.
Regardless of the matter now im looking to end relations and move on but its quite obvious it isnt going to happen. the 7 or 8k acres you took from us in an agreed conflict was all we wanted back and we would resume our war instead u decided to chartshape to Ronin. I think u guys knew heads up u couldnt win a war against us and if u wanted a fair 1vs1 we would of gave but this happened instead.. Doesnt matter now there was better ways for BOTH sides to handle this and instead BOTH sides handled it like yall were in PRE K
So much crying.
gotta restock popcorn, selling out fast !!
I was gung-ho to wave your ass before **** even went down with the U. Let me assure you, I maintain the same level of badass, always
We never intentionally dodged you out of an agreed war, we got waved into our prep.
While we were 36k acres in war, you then proceeded to explore to 85k acres and demand that we honor the war agreement that we got waved into, despite having been half your size and in a war.
Does that really come across as a KD that is actually negotiating for war in good faith?
So your KD can stop planting that seed every chance it gets TYVM.
We did nothing crappy to you.
We simply responded to your ****play.
Nevermind that your KD and Sparta were already gangbanged once for coordinating your ****play together, the two of you proceeded to coordinate interference in the other one's hostile AGAIN.
You mean like you waited almost a week into our hostile with Sparta to 2v1 into it?
You mean like you coordinated with Ronins to wait like 4 days into our hostile to wave us with bounces, hoping to declare and beat us, not expecting them to give us a button with those bounces and have us declare them instead?
Needs more cowbell....
Also, let's stay on track. Head to the other thread to bicker. This thread is to discuss TBB cowardice.
We just got into war range bro. BTW Pestilence, my friend, we miss your visits keeping us lean. What happened to your KD? Get deleted for multi? Kisses
Probably because much like when we were getting ready to explore in range of TBB to fight them and got waved, TBB conveniently decided to explore up and away and out of range, and then expect us to on short turnaround explore another 25k and fight their TM heavy setup with no wpa, having just come out of a war.
Hint: Stop trying to position yourself for hilariously lopsided wars and people might war you without you having to ****play them.