Cats Vs 1.19??? i dont know who 1.19 is .. but they sure got some guts to war them... or .....is it a fake war?
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Cats Vs 1.19??? i dont know who 1.19 is .. but they sure got some guts to war them... or .....is it a fake war?
Clear FW in 1:19's favor. That chart shaping.
Who are these ghettos?
1:19 is sparta v2? or 1, idk there seem to be quite a few floating around now.
vs settlers.
Ofc we have sparta now demanding an unequal deal or they will hit into our war. #funtimeswithbart
So clear fake war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bond
They are very close in land and nw... I don't see the problem here? 25 vs 23... I fought those odds with my 22 homies 3x last age and won all 3. Same land/nw, but less players is pretty fair. Yes, less mana, stealth and generals on those 23, but also a higher average province size and more likely to be/get unbreakable.
And here I was just about to be nice and agree to your proposal. But you had to make this public. Feel sorry for yer KD.
You should applaude him for using the same tactics you do Bart.
The difference is that I actually have a stick, and I won't hesitate to use this. And no lol I've never been as stupid as this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
No? Getting permabanned for a year, getting caught cheating? etc.. Would classify as much more stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
7:2 could easily win this. That is chart shaping Bart!
So are hits being made in to the war?
We will see how it goes.
Not currently. Only threats so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
To be fair, I do see why he would want some compensation for our 9 hits, 8 successful(1 learn, 1 plunder, 1 fail), in order to give them button. They claimed war agreed, we misunderstood a reply from another kd on our island and thought they didn't have an agreed war, so fair game in our eyes(we moved on after those hits and didn't come back).
interfering in a war vs your B team would be chart shaping, they really should hurry up and take away that raze into war option already.
1) There is nothing wrong with chart shapingQuote:
Originally Posted by Madchess
2) There is nothing wrong with raze into war
3) Quit utopia and stop burdening the rest of us with your incessant whining
@ Elixer - Keep me posted! If Bart or his associates hit into your war, so will we.
So you can piss off people then run into war i think not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madchess
Rolf wth is this drama? Same NW KD fighting it out while button was given to 1:19. Seems like legit war.
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Originally Posted by Pillz
I'd rather not have 2 people hitting into our war for literally no reason.
If that is what you meant lol.
It's manufactured: not the war, the drama.Quote:
Originally Posted by swatkat
We have all learned from wrestling. Hopefully the war will be fun for the participants.
Choice isn't yours, justice needs to be had. If 2:2 hits in the war, someone as to hit 1:19Quote:
Originally Posted by elixer
Issues resolved.
@Korp war ends at some point, if you got the balls to fight that other kingdom that is when you can do it, if not well why would you mess with them in the first place when they are at war? it is not like most people would appriciate that and let that pass.
Your post doesn't address the issue he raised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madchess
Maybe he meant to address you(?) The statements are in the same orbit, just a difference of opinions on mechanics vs morals.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Razee and Razer perspectives.
What is this Drama?? This is a FW so chill out!!!
Outside of the forums have Spartans ever been top tier. I mean from the forums themselves I'd assume they quad crowned for 20 ages.
We've never won a crown. Did beat most of the top-KDs though 4 or 5 ages ago. After that I finished Uni which meant my activity went down like 90%, which meant Sparta also became less good. Did manage to compete for 2 more ages but mostly by being morally flexible as you could call it. But actually in our only 2 whoring ages I didn't even lead a single conflict nor was I able to micro anything anymore. Having fought and having seen other KDs fight, I'd say we were worse than CR/Emeriti, but about the same level warring-wise as BB have been over the last 5-6 ages. BB however was always way better at whoring than us. Sparta was built on the backs of people I recruited from ghetto's (out of top 50 ghetto's), trained, and who all became good players and are still improving. Never had the luxury to be able to rely on established top-whoring players (Octo being the ONE exception).Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblogs
Pandas if fully active/committed would probably beat us on equal grounds, but their meta management usually has been quite bad apart from last age, so I doubt in a competitive age we'd ever engage them on equal grounds.
well never razed into anyones war or feelt the need to do so, at one time on a kingdom I was with like 5-10 ages ago a kingdom we beat fair and square decided to tm into our next war, luckily they did not keep it up for long but the relations was there when we got out and we proceeded to beat them up for a second time as we had a button on them when the war finnished.
I've been in a few wars a couple of times where the opponent got razed into, and I must say that made me want to go after those who did it and drop all further goals for the age to do so, cause it violated a fair 1 vs 1 fight we had with that kingdom.
The majority of players which does not play by FSU, abusing mechanics and ghetto baiting would have somewhat similair experiences and points of view cause warring kingdoms are all about 1 vs 1 like 95% of the time if not more often, and the vast majority of players thus does not need the possibility to raze into others wars, there are other ways to follow up on a grudge if you are a decent player, and it would prevent hapless noobs from hitting into wars too.
The possibility needs to be there tho whether you like or want it . Without it you will have kds go back to suicide waves then jumping into " arranged wars" with the instant declare available to build the land .Before you say fake wars are against the rules. Fake wars are determined by whats seen and by whos looking. You can send out enough small attacks to make it work.
well maybe make it impossible if there is no meter points then
Thing about fake wars, they can still be reported and investigated. Not sure why a growth/war kd would want to chance that considering the competition up top is slim and it's very easy to pay attention to people. Id give an example of one this age, but it's not my business.
i mean... why do you even want to arrange a war with a smaller kingdom if you wanna crown? look at their size in terms of honor.. RLMAO
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Originally Posted by elixer
They're not trying to crown they're trying to chart shape. 2x KDs within the top 10 is a useful thing to have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bond
You're just lying here joeblogs, or you simply don't know and choose to reach your own conclusions.
Sparta is 1:19 and merged with Jesters last age after part of the KD wanted to play with me again. 2:2 is my KD. I ran 5 provinces last age, and had about 8 or 9 Spartans come back to me.
However, we got about 3-4 good randoms and like 6-7 more people asked to join because it's becoming increasingly evident that I run the greatest KDs with by far highest levels of playing experience. We now have players from like 7 or 8 different KDs (CoL, Jesters, TBB, War Monkeys, Sparta, Oldschool and a few more).
We narrowly lost our OOP war, then beat a warring tier KD. We then agreed a war with a 25-prov warring tier KD, fully expecting to lose really as we don't even have war leaders and everyone sorta does w/e he wants. However, our enemy made some errors and Dwarf/Mystic-heretic-rogue + barrier = OP, so surprisingly we won. We then wanted to relax some so got CFs and dumped pool. I signed non-compete with (nearly) the entire top. If me and Matija wanted to create a "block" at the top 1:19 simply would've dumped their pool as well and be our size.
Mansoor joined Mysery!
Now close this thread!
Come on. You're definitely trying to get 2x kds in the top 10. I'm not having a go at you for doing it, but it's obvious. And yeah you did mass merge, but that doesn't mean you aren't still trying to chart shape. And again it's not an insult, it's just what's happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
So please explain:Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblogs
1. If I wanted to have 2 KDs in the top 10 I'd have made it happen. Hell, they'd both be in top 5 (3-4 ages ago I even managed to get super duper ghetto Sanctus into #5 land). Why would I not make it happen given my great talents and the lack of competition? Why would Sparta be sitting on all that pool if Matija were just my pawn trying to grow?
2. How did we chart shape? Which competing KD took land off us, which targets did we prize away from them?
The only reason we dumped pool is because we wanted to chill some after doing 3 wars in the first 2.5 weeks and I'm unwilling to deal with low IQ trash-tier monarchs. Size = safety = slack (you can ask protector).
I'm not having a go at you personally, but it's obvious you're mistaken here.
We'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
super duper ghetto eh. i prefer the having fun warring term but to each their own i guess. also none of us really want to get much past top 30 dont want to deal with any of that BS up there lol
good luck with war.
Huh, you saying WWF is fake? I will be snitching you out to Santa for fibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle