despite emeriti WS and having 0 incoming and being able to 4x them all
Given I haven't done more than watch for like 8 ages, its fun to see how not insta declaring doesn't make sense with some sorta super ops play.
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despite emeriti WS and having 0 incoming and being able to 4x them all
Given I haven't done more than watch for like 8 ages, its fun to see how not insta declaring doesn't make sense with some sorta super ops play.
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thumbs up for their setup, always fresh and creative.
dryad hybrids ftw
Indeed, I'd like to see. Last age I noticed some strat anomalies in a few dryad, so there may've been some preliminary experiments in the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by ahtoad
Edit: ok, that was off topic.
Emeriti are built like a classic BeastBlood strat for the last couple ages; at least from the kingdom page.
I'm dedicated to noninterference so I don't take intel from kingdoms in conflict( I don't want to burn their shadow light and thus runes/mana )
The gaudy offense of dryad offers alternative build ventures. You can tone down to orc level and backfill with whatever you deem strategically groovy. I'm sure there's some net worth slide puzzle tricks you can do with prisoner/merc/horse efficiencies.
Locations? Also who are these ghettos?
Somewhere in the top 50. Emeriti is in the drivers seat for the bushels crown.Quote:
Originally Posted by Swagger
random who you think it is, if their king complain and threten your king it is them.
Well, it went to war.
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Originally Posted by Pestilence
Waving a kd at 32000 acres when your kd is 18000 is showing some big balls. I also heard 6:4 had nearly 100000 troop advantage. Will be a fun war to follow
6:4 player should rename to "I eat three waves"
Proof or it didnt happen!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spice
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Originally Posted by Spice
They should empty them!
Unleash the orc smash
heheheheQuote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Orc smash does not work when it is dwarf vs dryad, starvation gives no chance for the dwarf side thougth.
4 vs 4 on faery count.
Dips on the "tactical withdrawal" result, I'd still call that a loss no matter what the withdrawing side use as the excuse, and no matter who withdraws.
Looks like an easy win for Em to me - admittedly I haven't taken intel.
Emeriti had a 100k troop disadvantage. Not sure how big the gap is now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris121
What do we have for personalities? Who is 6:4? Speaking of who is 5:20?
I'd be interested to know how that translate(s)/(d) in terms of off/def points difference though, bearing in mind the different race choices. I'm thinking dryad would overcome most of that just through the elite values.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spice
It was a 90k troop advantage for them when we waved. The initial wave(s) killed a lot. Though they had 200k more peasants at that time so they got to train a lot more.
6:4 is warriors on most of the dwarves. One rogue (?) and a couple war heroes (cows?). Bocans are mystics and faeries are rogues.
FWIW, I'm pretty sure dwarf and bocan are both terrible. They could certainly have not quadded us on declare even though we had ~no defense and they had that 60k military advantage. They could have converted and declared just before we got home, but tried to train up the cow to get him unbreakable (completely unsuccessfully since he got ns'd in the first hours of war).
Also, having land is a huge disadvantage in any fight. If they'd declared without farming out to us some first then they'd really crush their chances of having a good war. This is almost purely because of the -33% gains penalty for hitting someone smaller.
Expected thread to be 10-15 pages by now. Disappointment.
Nobody has called it a fake war or intentional farmout yet, so there isn't much to argue about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avenger
What was the attack time with your 119% Godspeed?Quote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
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Originally Posted by Judge
we're dryads. it was longer than their attack time as dwarves.
it was a 127% godspeed at the start, I believe. Shoulda saved it for war.
From the look of the paper, the person in emeriti with the highest amount of incoming land is "sommerfeld" He is now 229 acres after being chained. Lets hope they bush those hits, because emeriti seems to be going with the strategy of chaining the person with the least amount of acres incoming.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence
I know its been awhile since I've played, but I like emeriti's strategy better.
So from what jdorje said it sounds like there wasn't a huge difference in military points despite the 90k difference in troops, which is as expected because it's dryad v dwarf. 6:4's pers set up sounds odd, to say the least.
What pers do Emeriti have?
I still think it looks like an easy win for Em. Just need to take down 5 or 6 dwarfs before losing 12 dryads. Should be easy.
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21 dryad heretics 2 fae warriors 1 fae wh 1 fae paladinQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris121
OMG! You can't cast MS! You will DIE YOU FOOL! DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Binar
ok?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
well, it is understood to be unquestionably true that you can't survive without MS ability. I mean it is the singularly most important ability in the game...
I mean, everyone says it so it must be true.
Confirmed, no crown for Emeriti.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
Thanks Binar
3-4 dwarfs left over 1k v 11 dryads. Surely a min time victory.
I would be more concerned about less loses for opponents on attack and defence than the lack of meteors since that setup does not have any loss reducing personalities but they probably count on ns with those heretics to level that disadvantage, the longer attack times can also come into play if they go up against a tactician core at some point, but +15% is only a minor problem when you got access to QF.
the point of the setup is it can 4x everything so it doesn't need to slowly wear down someone's defense.
All you need is someone 8 islands away to just agree to war you OOP while sitting pumped on #1 in NW, and you're all set.
Weren't Emeriti were like 70% less land (and apparently 90k less troops) than the kingdom that they are currently warring? That kingdom also had a war win (a bit earlier than Emeriti too I believe?)
Your post might as well say, "all BB needed was a war against their old buddy Ervgotti and they're all set."
Your options are much easier when you agree to war people before the age even starts, which is clearly what happened w/ 8:6. I'm just confused as to what kingdom would agree to war emeriti #1 OOP. Seems odd. This war was clearly just outplaying 6:4, I'd agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Regarding ervgotti, BB's relative NW was a similar 109% to them. They gained no land outside of the WW bonus given they had 8 unbreakable faeries, and I can assure you emeriti has gotten more land from the U than BB ever has. Its also nice that people know who it is everyone is fighting, it's a small game, everyone pretty much knows everyone, and there are only so many 25 person kingdoms. If some random WW kd wants to try their luck vs emeriti OOP, nothing wrong with that. Just odd no one ever seems to know who emeriti wars OOP most ages. Especially considering this particular setup cannot function without an EoW pump, so having one lined up pre-age warrants suspicion.
You know jack sh1t as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Last age we warred AVarice oop, this age some other warring kd that wanted a war.
Give us props for doing awesome stuff instead of just picking Dorfs and dumping pool.
Emeriti messaged every kingdom in range asking for war. Is it that surprising that a kingdom equal nw to Emeriti named "The Company Seeking War (6:8)" agreed to war them? I don't think they were known to be Emeriti at the time despite their Arnold theme.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
And Emeriti's gotten more land from BB than they have from the U, but I don't think either of those points are relevant. Ervgotti has been open about BB being the one kingdom he has loyalty to and would automatically EOA cf every age if BB would want that. Instead, BB and Erv war early age while BB complains about Emeriti getting a war with an equal nw kingdom that they don't know. Umm, ok...Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
I think Emeriti's setup can function without an EoW pump, hense how they won their first war vs an equal sized kingdom. There are multiple ways to play oop. You can use your pool and then use your size to pump with a ritual or you can go smaller and hope to secure a war and get the win. The second option is probably better if you are successful in those two things, but Emeriti has been successful in exploring and pumping oop also.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Sat around for 15 ticks hoping someone would say yes to warring the #1 NW kd on the server as an island opened up? Strange. Surely there's a screenshot of an in-game message showing this. Rather fortunate someone said yes, might still be 400 acres otherwise.
yes we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger
Not that we have to prove anything at all to you. Just because you and yours play shady doesnt mean we do.
Surely a screen shot of the in-game message could easily be taken. How about your arrangement with Ervgotti?