Happiness level

Bring back the happiness level. A ruler should be governed by his people. It will make it so that province that are runned well will gain extra perks. So people do not want to war and a Happiness level make the game more fun for the people just want to see how well they can run their province. And make it more comprehensive. In other words make it very hard for province to reach the top happiness level but if they do their kingdom will begin to gain honor along with any other bonuses that may come along with having a utopia.

booooo

why make waging war a negative thing? War is the whole point to playing Utopia!


horrible suggestion Vines!

lol

vines entertainment value is quite high today

Luth, if you want entertainment, I'll order you a stripper.

vines is back to amuse us again
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Utilization ftw!

Happyness and Utilization **** I hated both of them.

Once plaza's and miners mystic was removed from the game it started going down hill .......... o.O

No one said anything about making war a bad thing. I'm just asking for another way to gain honor. Ofcourse the happiness level path will be much more harder to do than warring, however, it is a way for kingdoms that do not want to war to be able to gain honor.

Correct me if wrong but in the old happiness system, your people grew bored if you didn't war and tired if you warred too long. War was definately a part of the happiness system.

Being ecstatic was fairly easy and the bonuses were nice enough. But it did require a lot of micro management and switching all the time.
Too much war bad, no war bad as well. Attack bigger people good, bottom feeding your not honorable, etc. etc.

Personally I thought the happiness system was funny and I don't mind it coming back. But getting honor for it? No way!

Vines for president.

happiness was the worst thing ever, it would just be like stickin the final knife in to bring that crap back

if you took 4~ spells, of any kind, you had a negative magic penalty for at least 3-4 human days, thievery too

attackers had it terrible, they were stuck in rioting\rebellious all age, once you made rioting\rebellious, there was no coming back, for the entire age, till martial law came about, but even then that was beyond awful

25% BE, 50% militery effiency, try and it see the fun of needing 40% farms to just not starve

Hmm funny my attacker was ecstatic most of the time.

Anyway, although I enjoyed it as I thought the thing was funny. I don't think it would be a good thing to bring back to Utopia. For one thing it requires too much micro management and attention.

It was 'interesting,' but not 'funny,' 'fun,' or 'neat.'
Just a raw experiment on Mehul's part, that he most likely kept going for as long as possible as a cruel joke.

I'm well aware most people didn't like it. I didn't claim it was funny as in that's the community census, just that it gave me a few laughs. I guess I got a sadistic streak and love psychological pain :)

lol happiness.

I reached both end of the spectrum I think, euphoria and rebellious? I think i had to use martial law...

Happiness was okay, a little frustrating due to the the system being too sensitive and too insensitive at times

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Originally Posted by VT2

Vines for president.

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Vines is like the utopian version of GW Bush

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Originally Posted by Yoda

lol happiness.

I reached both end of the spectrum I think, euphoria and rebellious? I think i had to use martial law...

Happiness was okay, a little frustrating due to the the system being too sensitive and too insensitive at times

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Happiness theif targets to keep your people smiling during Fake Wars ......


Happiness another moofool idiotic idea to see if his test bunnys would suck up more ****.

happiness only emphasis was on bad things, there was at least 3-4x as many penalties as bonuses, and WAY easier to sit in the negative end all age with no way to get back up

25% BE, i dare anybody to play with that in this day an age, and 50% ME or under, and whatever income penalties and crap it had

there was no martial law for many ages, so once you got op'd by t\ms in 1 war, it was game over for the rest of the age, you werent getting back above rioting\unhappy

Honor from happiness?

How on earth do you get honorable by staying happy?

You gain honor and fame by proving your skill on the battlefield, or other things you actually Do, you dont get honor by staying happy. Gosh.

I always had my province in a state of Euphoric. Back then things were simpler you did have to worry about ME and BE and sciences added to ME. Also the science were more powerful. I am not going to tell you how to get to euphoric state and it only takes loging in once every day. I am not going to say just in case they bring it back :D Now if they brought it back it would be more complex. Because the level of play is far higher than it was back than.

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Originally Posted by flutterby

Vines is like the utopian version of GW Bush

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I lol'ed hard

If you all remember the last few ages of happyness,if your people were unhappy you got an offence bonus.I loved it.Ran the pants off of the avian.
But Do you realy want these game masters to try this?
May be better to let the sleeping dog lay!

this is just beyond absurd, happiness was truly the worst thing EVER

4 ops\spells trashed you for an entire age pretty much in its early days, it was the cycle of death, once you started the downward spiral, of taking a few ops\spells\hits, that was it, you could basicly give up for the age

nobody can manage to avoid getting 4 spells or ops cast on them all age, and if you did, your BE and ME went to hell, which meant you took hits, which meant lower happiness, which meant lower BE\ME levels and more beating on you because your province is fubared

25% building effiency, 50% militery effiency, 40%+ farms to just not starve, with no way of doing anything to get your happiness back up, i honestly dont think you played at that time vines,

im sick of these bull**** threads sitting up the top, whilst proper suggestions fall off and down the board, omac werent around then, they dont know how terrible it was, and either you werent around either vines or your memory is extremely biased towards ****e

happiness was totally orientated towards giving people who are already having a hard time of it, eg getting hit\op'd, massive massive penalties, it was like beating and kicking somebody on the ground, and nailing them down so they are stuck there with no way to stand back up

once again, why punish the people that need it least? they need recovery BONUSES, not extra uber penalties for things they cant influence, like having ops\spells and attacks on you

Utilization was a lot easier than happiness.

it was easier .... but it still sucked **** tho .....

Think Cortez got it pretty much right Vines once again has no idea what s/he's talking about and wants to reserect one of the most hated utopian modifications ........

It worked well for me. People don't like it because they can't run their cities the way I can.

Who let you out of the box, vines?

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Originally Posted by vines

It worked well for me. People don't like it because they can't run their cities the way I can.

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Running a crappy strat and getting destroyed by people who are better than you, works for you too.... doesn't mean its ok for the rest of us.

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Originally Posted by vines

It worked well for me. People don't like it because they can't run their cities the way I can.

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well there we see the problem, Vines has cities while everyone else has a province.

Thank you dear lord I'll take that one. I saw someone else took the 1/92 but this is mine!! :D