Should the big bang theory be taught in schools to children as 'fact'?
Should creationism be taught in schools to children as 'fact'?
Which do you personally believe in?
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Should the big bang theory be taught in schools to children as 'fact'?
Should creationism be taught in schools to children as 'fact'?
Which do you personally believe in?
Religion has no place in any school system
Science flies you to the moon, religion flies you into buildings.
nuff said.
Nice.
If they teach theories in schools, I don't see why they should discriminate between, say, evolution and creationalism. Religion is what made science, so they could better understand the world God gave them.
Given that, religion seems to have been a motivator to bring people to the moon.
Religions have a history of hindering science. For example, Galileo was brought to trial for saying that the earth revolved around the sun instead of the biblical view of the sun revolving around the earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_affair
As for flying people to the moon; religion didn't have a lot to do with that. Cold war rivalry was the main motivator
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_race
Science teaches us about the natural world.
Religion "teaches" us about the supernatural world.
There's already a natural division in the two categories.
Edit:
Also, if science has taught us anything, next to nothing should be taught as "Fact"
Religion did not create science, humans created science.
Science and religion are idem. You'll see.
A genocide of the religious would solve every problem we currently face. Global warming, poverty through wealth redistribution, food/water shortages, the GOP. I bet that cruise ship wouldn't had crashed If those dead weight old christian couples weren't on board.
I simply ask people, people being christians, if they believe in God. If they answer yes i ask them if they still believe in Santa Clause too.
If they are particularly defensive about Holy Crap, i ask them how old they believe the earth is... for some reason Christian belief allows for a selective proccess when it comes to its own literature. Most western Davidian's, Christian's and for some reason McDonalds Managers("our food is healthy") all selectively believe. basically when its convenient.
If you are a true Catholic/Christian you know the earth to be no more than 7000 years old. if you believe otherwise you will burn in Hell for being a complete suchNsuch. Perhaps people will have their own opinions one day instead of reciting others notions with little to KNOW understanding of what they have the opinion about.
octobrev lol!! Global warming isn't a problem its the newest big bu$ine$$!!
I am spiritual, i beleive there is more to life than what we see. Yet i do not prescribe to any major religion.
I agree that children should be able to see both sides of the arguement for what they are and then make their own decisions.
exhibit nr. 1
exhibit nr. 2
Not the examples I had in mind but ok. Do you hear a priest or a professor reasoning? I can't tell.
I feel a vice versa coming up.
In school you teach science. If you want religion you go to church. I see no scientific data to support creationism, therefore it should not be taught in science class. While we may not know all there is to know about macro evolution, not having been around long enough to witness it, massive amounts of scientific evidence (not to mention common sense) point to it being fact.
As far as the 7000 year thing goes, I have no proof that it's not true, but I don't need to believe that in order to believe in the Bible.
They both require a lot of faith methinks. lol
I'm a teacher(not in religion) and think evolutionism/big bang should be taught, but the pupils should also be made aware of the Christian theory. I teach my students that the Big Bang happened billions of years ago, but that it's a theory we believe in atm and it might change.
The Earth is NOT 6000 years old, it's much older. Btw, the guy who first came up with that(the guy was a priest in the uk) was banned by the Pope and condemned by Christianity of his day.
Btw, evolutionism is no theory, it is fact. Big Bang is a theory.
Agree. Scorpio, when you said that students should be taught both sides, why would we do that? If we teach a religious belief in school why are we only teaching one? If by both sides you meant all religious beliefs then that's just insane and we have no time to teach all that in school anyway. We don't even have enough time to teach what's really important.
I said children should be able to see both sides and make their own decisions. I did not mention what they should be taught. That question is open.
Why not also make pupils aware of the Aboriginal Theory that a giant rainbow snake flew down from the sky and created the world? as that is 'another side of the arguement' (the arguement being what is life and how did it/us/earth/everything originate)
It is a difficult question, as i have no kids of my own i don't have to be bothered by the stress of what they are being taught at school.
Do you mean lines such as 'God works in mysterious ways' ?
They irk me also.
That's a rather silly question. Aboriginal religion is not one of the big world religions in the world today, those are Christianity, Judaism, Buddaism, Islam and Hinduism. The big 5. All humans ought to know something about the big 5 in order to understand other people's culture better. I'm not saying it should be taught as a possible theory, I'm saying it should be taught as "This is what these guys believe happened".
Since most here come from "Christian" countries with a Christian cultural legacy, it is only natural that we learn more about Christianity than Hinduism.
Knowledge is power, knowledge promotes equality and works against prejudice. If you know your neighbour, you will treat him better and think better of him(unless he's an arse ofc).
And no, I am not a Christian.
It wasn't a serious suggestion, i posted about the rainbow serpent in a comparison to teaching christianity.
I suppose it is a conversation about both.
This kind of reminds me of that south park episode about the true thanksgiving... i mean, there's certainly no proof that aliens weren't at the first thanksgiving...
I have not seen that episode of South Park.
How does this thread remind you of it?
Would people please stop abusing the term "Theory". An idea with no factual backing is not a theory.
@lastunicorn - Religious discussions are still subject to logic. Things can not be "created old". If something is created today, by that very fact, it can not be 10,000 years old. It breaks logical laws which is something that most agree even God can not do.
Unfortunately the vast majority of religous people do not particularly care about what is logical.
That's just untrue. There's just as many illogical athiests out there.
Slight difference between not caring to be logical and being illogical, the later one can just be a sign of stupidity
That is the very definition of a theory, Palem.... A theory is something you can't prove with facts, it can't be proven, yet.
The Big Bang Theory though, has some proof showing the Universe is expanding from a centre where it all started expanding billions of years ago.
@Palem It is not untrue, yet i agree - there are many illogical humans of all descriptions, including both religious and non religious people.