Interesting Top Race Charts

Avians:
Nevermind

Dwarfs:
Mostly Simians

Elves:
Mostly Bring it On

Faery:
WAS Mostly the Faery Circle but we all know how that is working out.

Halfling:
Bring it On has the top 3 Halflings, rest is mixed.

Orc:
Mostly The Poet.

Undead:
Mostly Whispers.

Are the top charts always dominated by race like this, or is it unique? Which of these kingdom setups is going to really win? How come more top kingdoms didn't pick the same kingdom setup? Did some kingdoms pick their setup primarily to be different than other kingdom's setups?

Which one do you think will win by the age's end?

To answer this question there's alot more to it than just how one race is individually.

For the past 3-4 ages or so, abs has traditionally picked the fastest race that starts out of the gate. This means the race that has tog this age (human) or free build costs in prior age (dwarf), both of which aren't necessarily the best races for an independent kingdom, but if you get 3-4 kingdoms all using the same strategy can beat down all the other "better" choices early because of their economic/speed advnatage that it becomes the best race when used in unison.

The non-abs kds have either not figured out the best racechoices or not picked racechoices that work in harmony quite like abs does for the past few ages.

What nothing about the humans in trollfaqs vs trollking. Lol ;-)

flogger, great post. That makes a lot of sense.

Shiv, pretty simple. Trollfags don't own the top of the Human charts.

Implying that race charts matter.

As always whatever race the top kds choose end up making them win THAT race chart. ie top kds races=race chart win.

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Originally Posted by flogger

The non-abs kds have either not figured out the best racechoices or not picked racechoices that work in harmony quite like abs does for the past few ages.

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But this age abs lost fury, so abs isnt really the powerhouse up to. Sure they have 2 kds but its not like controlling 1/2 the top that they used to.

Its all about your expected activity Vs independent power. For example compare orc v dwarf v elf cores

Elf core WILL use NM heavily so IF their kd can match up attack times/waves via supurb activity they have a strong advantage.
Dwarf core should have started nicely gotten a good lead and kept it all age with the ability to tank though any small issues.
Orc core hits hard, big gains lasts long in war, should be able to out gain all other kds via land hits, but cant rely on dicing/expects wars.


Each kd picks the setup they think they have activity for....bio's SHOULD be the strongest, as perfect NM chaining is insane, most kds wont try that though.

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Implying that race charts matter.

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Did someone say that they did?

****ing Proteus.

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****ing Proteus.

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Why do you say that Kuhan?

Absalom = Sanctuary + Hall of Heroes + Rage
One could say they control 100% of the top three.

Elves Mystics in BiO or Sage?

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Originally Posted by American Badass

Elves Mystics in BiO or Sage?

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Rogues with a few mystics

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Absalom = Sanctuary + Hall of Heroes + Rage
One could say they control 100% of the top three.

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Holdon...I thought HoH was HaLL?? HaLL and Absalom are allied? What the heck?

What's going on with Simians shows a kingdom can drop out of the top 3 real real quick.

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Originally Posted by Persain

Each kd picks the setup they think they have activity for....bio's SHOULD be the strongest, as perfect NM chaining is insane, most kds wont try that though.

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F*ck NM dude... Amnesia ftw!

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Originally Posted by Persain

Its all about your expected activity Vs independent power. For example compare orc v dwarf v elf cores

Elf core WILL use NM heavily so IF their kd can match up attack times/waves via supurb activity they have a strong advantage.

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This was our thought with choosing elf, however abs has neutralized it a bit going with human which is more NM/NS resiliant.

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Originally Posted by flogger

This was our thought with choosing elf, however abs has neutralized it a bit going with human which is more NM/NS resiliant.

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Yea i saw that, just means baka's comment about Amnesia is more important :D

I thought NM worked as well on elites as it did on dspecs, so wouldn't it still work well on humans?

Elites are more resistant to ops than specs so humans wth a 5/5 elite will take less losses from nm

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Originally Posted by boz

I thought NM worked as well on elites as it did on dspecs, so wouldn't it still work well on humans?

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NS is about half as effective on elites. NM is practically useless against elites.

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Originally Posted by flogger

NS is about half as effective on elites. NM is practically useless against elites.

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you'd only use NM against a full leet player to make them go unbreakable=>breakable. Where often times NM chains involve taking someone down to triple/quad taps instantly.

F*ck NM. Amnesia FTW.

huh interesting....