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You know the rules and so do I
A full commitment's what I'm thinking of
You wouldn't get this from any other guy
I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
Gotta make you understand
Never gonna give you up
Never gonna let you down
Never gonna run around and desert you
Never gonna make you cry
Never gonna say goodbye
Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
flame thread, close.
they might as well war! rage perhaps has to much advantage but still last two weeks are going to be boring since simians flopped then intentionally farmed out
ye this will become a flame thread
but tells more on goodz if he feel allies should be wared if they are ahead of u winning.
+1 Darklove
On another note. I find it really funny that goodz still thinks that Simians intended to farm out
Orc rulezzzz!!!
realistically they should have lost 30-40k acres, their build sucks. Activity was downer. They have stayed in war long past min time, their bank released troops etc. So the did after realising they were going to lose give hoh enough free land that there is no question who will take the land chart.Quote:
Originally Posted by wartague
They waved us with an empty bank and 1 inactive prov. Hardly our fault. Activity for them was 90% army in/out, until they realized they underestimated us. They should have wd, yes. But they didn't. But we won the war. The age win will always be questioned, but would anyone else in the top have wd, giving up an earned war win with bonuses, if the shoes were on the other feet? I don't think so...
We've played clean, fair, and honorable all age. Simians chose to tarnish our win by not wd'ing, Someone wants to farm us and vows we'll never crown again.
The ironic thing is, we never set out with our sights on the crown. We had 2 goals this age. To war BiO and Simians both, and to show them we aren't the HoH of last age. We accomplished both. BiO won, kudos to them. I was terrified in that war, because I know what Baka and BiO are capable of. But we held our own and we had awesome activity.
The war with Simians, we won it, even by min time. And our activity is still maxed.
So yes, we deserve this win, regardless of the mud that gets slung our way. :-)
Long Live HaLL of Heroes... the most awesome group of people in Utopia, in my opinion. We admit when we fail, we take our losses with dignity, we learn from our mistakes, and we come back stronger than before.
First of all their bank did not release any troops. He was starved and NS'edQuote:
Originally Posted by goodz
With regards to land crown and what not. By the time Simians waved us we were around 6-8k acres behind Rage
The min time statistics follow below and are fairly accurate as only on tay 3 of the war their LL started to be effective once we had grown a great deal. So I would say that the crown was definitely in play and by no means secured by Rage.
** Kingdom news report **
For the time from March 1 of YR10 till May 3 of YR10 - 51 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]
** Summary **
Total attacks made: 299 (130,310 acres)
-- Traditional march: 275 (126,063 acres)
-- Ambush: 15 (4,108 acres)
-- Conquest: 1 (139 acres)
-- Failed: 8 (2.7% failure)
-- Uniques: 54
Total attacks suffered: 195 (67,003 acres)
-- Traditional march: 175 (64,534 acres)
-- Ambush: 8 (2,469 acres)
-- Raze: 1 (210 acres)
-- Learn: 1
-- Failed: 10 (5.1% failure)
-- Uniques: 51
** The kingdom of ##:## **
Total land exchanged: +63,307 (299/195)
We declared on 3rd.
Rage are not even close to what we would have come out with at min time. That being said why on earth would Simians WD from a war against us just to come out and be vultured by Rage or Sanc or both for that matter?
Holy crap wartague! LOL Defend us a bit...
Of those 8 fails, 5 of them were on me... to drop anon that was precast! LOL
And as Proteus and I are 'discussing', had Simians wd, the race for top spot would still be on... It would have been a race to the last hour. Dice, random, pray, explore, dice, random, pray, explore... :D
I am not taking a shot at HoH. I am just saying simians should have controlled losses better. you shhould have imo only taken 40k acres + explore pool. The fact that the bank starved? It just further indicates how terrible they have done.
It is clear you would have won regardless but imo simians has intentionally made the win from 40-50k acres to 100k acres.
Just my opinion. That as you say if simians played remotely decently it wouldn't be enough gain for an automatic crown. But at this point its yours :) So sanctuary and rage can give up on gunning for it and war each other for fun times.
They did try to control losses initially in the war. Your off by 27k acres , guess you don't read so well.
Total attacks suffered: 195 (67,003 acres)
I believe there was a lot of give up before that? You mentioned an empty bank for example. And probably ~5k was explore pool? Not sure unless both did manage to empty first but doesn't sound like it. So if they had only lost say even 60k acres it would still be a tight battle for crown. But the main point is not acres your totally missing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crazy Pete
The point is HoH has won the age.
Now sanctuary and rage are free to fight as they are out of the race!
Can this really happen?
Isn't that what Abs always does?Quote:
Originally Posted by KyGal
WD with acres gained and then claim they won the war despite WD due to the gains.
Guess now suddenly one needs an enemy to WD to actually win a war.
Really then by your logic all abs kds should have 0 war wins in utopia.Also tell me one instance where an abs kd has wd at mintime with acres and claimed they have wonQuote:
Originally Posted by Wolfshound
Withdrawing up acres is a draw if the other kingdom would have taken the acres back in a longer war. It promotes the ultimate goal at the expense of the war.
Replace "Bio" with "Abs" last age and you got a winner winner chicken dinner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfshound
Maybe you should rethink your allegiance to said person =)Quote:
Originally Posted by KyGal
I heard that the bank ragequit when he got doubledQuote:
Originally Posted by goodz
@HoH - had Simians somewhat played organized they'd have had better damage control. Suppose I can understand their reasons for not caring anymore.
Gg anyway :)
Bio didn't try to win a war, they just wanted to crown, which they did. Mission seems accomplished to me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
What did you do for yours? Oh wait.. that's right.. charity! :P
I am more then sure with out sanc dubbel and with the war plan we hade for hoh we whuld not lose the war and we whuld take land of hoh how much i dont know but i say 25-30k land at least , mabe we can war 1 vs 1 next age if sanc not there to BS it agin-
Whys everybody arguing with essays?
Hoh won.
looking at your aweful provinces i would be surprised if u had managed to break even at mintime forget taking land.Same goes for your ****ty bank.Quote:
Originally Posted by calle
Says the guy with 0 crowns and 0 warwins. Give it a rest you are irrelevant in the top kd landscape and so is your kingdom.Quote:
Originally Posted by prot
All your posts just prove that you are a bio lapdog, quit riding on other peoples results and go achieve something yourself..try winning a war for starters.
Yeah thats why you ask me, a nobody, for cow strats lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Not sure who your source is but I got my crown long ago already and I can't say I care much about it either. The only person from the 2 of us who seems to care about crowns is you. But hey, a charity crown is a crown anyway!
prot don't you have a hostile to focus on?
No, why?Quote:
Originally Posted by goodz
why's everybody mad?
hoh won.
The only war wins that matter in the top are the wins where you get the win and the acres. No one in the top 5 dices for 3 months to get war wins.
The dicing didn't go so well this age huh? No charity crowns for you this age so your'e going to drink beers and hang in the forums instead? Watch what you say this time and don't go off deleting posts!Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
coulda...shoulda...woulda....didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by calle
says the guy whose cow i farmed 3 times in 3 distinct ages, try deleting that one off your record. only one who got a charity crown was you because rage opted to war instead of crown last age. you will never crown (or cow without being farmed) again man, back to business as usual.Quote:
Originally Posted by baka
Proteus is the new anri? I'm guessing he will be farmed so bad by BiO next age that he'll cry to his momma
You couldn't get your charity crown this age either.. even though you apparently "tried". Manning up to fight would've bode you well but obviously you prefer charity instead. Nothing wrong with that.. beggars can't be choosers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
I dont see how farming out you and your allies means not fighting. I prefer to try and fall short rather lose and live in denial like you do. Who did you end up blaming for your cow failure past 3 ages as I've been told you never accept responsibility and find fault with someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by baka
Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
So are you only trying when your friends win?Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
sims farmed out to another kd? didnt everyone predict it? lawlz.
Sanctuary ftw.
Proteus lives in the past :)