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Looks like Honor has just spend the age pumping and they got declared on my a kd 75% their size. Should be interesting
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Looks like Honor has just spend the age pumping and they got declared on my a kd 75% their size. Should be interesting
at hostile we were 70% their size.. :-D... things you do to get wars!!!
hard to win a war when your so much smaller, unless the kd your fighting has terrible numbers. Should be interesting to watch
The danger is in alignment shaping. Small kingdoms with a few knowledgable players can flip your alignment. This happened to us in HRS a few ages ago against Miracle Illusion. These effects followed us for 2 wars because they were compounded by the next opponent.
EA is really good.. they sEeKerz WaR back and fort :P
http://tf.umunk.net/#war=2&id1=185&id2=404
Is Honor even trying?
So EA = wSk? Who is this Honor kd they are warring?
Who are they?
Our name rhymes with a state bird. It's not that hard.
this honor kd is dishonor from last age... so honor/dishonor...
so little background... they waved us expecting "free acres"... it seems they are just the wrong kd up there with acres... A kd that has just unknowingly gained and riding with the top pack... that is until they are noticed or they make a bad move.
Activity for honor is on the low compared to EA... but most importantly this being a surprise declare - and with lack of gc and militaryly and building wise not being in war mode... We surprised them with the war and quickly went at controlling their ability to break on provinces.
I kinda feel bad about Honor - I wish them the best... I normally joke around so do not take the jokes in a negative way... but the surprise war and destroying their econ they really have nothing left. That being said - this is a perfect learning experience for them - I hope they stay united and we offer complete support in terms of advising them of playing this and whats best for them based on their activity and knowledge.
** Summary **
Total attacks made: 127 (8,355 acres)
-- Traditional march: 116 (8,127 acres)
-- Ambush: 4 (169 acres)
-- Conquest: 2 (59 acres)
-- Massacre: 4 (15,208 population)
-- Failed: 1 (0.8% failure)
-- Uniques: 48
Total attacks suffered: 68 (3,197 acres)
-- Traditional march: 62 (3,152 acres)
-- Ambush: 1 (45 acres)
-- Massacre: 3 (5,963 population)
-- Learn: 2
-- Uniques: 33
** The kingdom of **:**
Total land exchanged: +5,158 (127/68)
+628 Brazil is Back (9/0)
+571 Asset Specificity (6/0)
+563 Bean (11/3)
+549 a Mama Dragon (8/3)
+547 Queen By Association (8/0)
+511 BooZe (7/1)
+446 Skannatati (12/0)
+410 Sectumsempra (6/0)
+339 M00seFr3ak (6/6)
+319 Orc Mania (6/1)
+314 FeelingItOhManThePain (9/1)
+292 Gimli (5/1)
+188 An unknown province (2/0)
+151 Shangrila (4/0)
-189 Forbidden Planet (10/10)
-211 Waffle Dancing (12/26)
-270 Lonely Mountain (6/16)
** The kingdom of *:**
Total land exchanged: -5,158 (68/127)
+320 The Ghost Of Fat Bastard (4/0)
+238 Ghost of Unique (4/0)
+227 Ghosts of Lots of dwarfs (4/0)
+215 Ghost of The Mystic Keep (3/1)
+203 Ghost of Tom Joad (3/0)
+181 Ghost of Snickers (6/0)
+55 Reprisal (5/2)
+53 An unknown province (3/0)
+49 Ghost of Furrbowl (2/0)
+12 Ghost of Kvr (1/0)
- Ghost of Etro (0/2)
-648 Ghost of a Killer (10/23)
-709 Ghost of Hammer (0/5)
-783 Ghost of Baldur (2/14)
-846 Ghost of Methos (4/14)
-868 Ghost of Storms (4/14)
-921 Ghost of Fire (11/19)
-931 Ghost of Viking (2/17)
-1,005 Ghost of Lightning (0/16)
Well, I can't say too much here in public (maybe in the war forum), but yeah we are a new kingdom- and our meta-strat has changed from the start of age to now. (Off topic: As for my activity, I didn't expect a war, and was traveling for 28 hours- and SOMEBODY whose name I won't mention (cough cough, Ghost of XXX, Cough) didn't take care of things for me- also, Is there a message for reflected landlusts? Does the other prov get an acre, or do I just lose 1? )
If you're the one casting, it's the same as any other reflect message. If you're on the receiving end, it just says an enemy spell attempt has been reflected. Reflected LL's just destroy the caster's acres. Defender doesn't gain anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baldur's Gate
Makes you wonder what kind of kingdom thinks they can wave a 2/2 warring kingdom for free acres? There are plenty of better targets to gain free acres from. Would love to hear their thought process...Quote:
Originally Posted by KingTuk
And a kingdom that unknowingly gained acres? How exactly do you unknowingly gain acres?
You seem to be taking a lot of liberties with describing your opponent, kind of like you're reading from a script... Could we get some factual discussion from Honor instead?
Agree Verm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verminator
Everybody needs to say what kingdom they're speaking for so I can track the soap opera. I feel like I walked in on The Matrix after the first 45 minutes.
Sry for not being clear on the unknowingly comment... I was not referring directly to their acres but referring to their standing amongst the top... They have grown and have not been challenge in any way or form... Thing is acres and 25 provs mean nothing if you do not know how to utilize them... I remember my young days trying to grow as much as possible - I was successful to a point and then the horror would come and all would be lost... And I certainly agree that i am in position to make such conclusions... But based on their activity and war strat I can say it might be best if they fought at the bottom until their gameplay gets better... But like their king said there were some incorrect choices made while he was absent... I hope they can regroup and continue to have success...
Sry on phone... Do not mind any typos...
Final war summary
** Kingdom news report **
For the time from July 10 of YR3 till February 12 of YR4 - 51 hours
** Summary **
Total attacks made: 216 (13,496 acres)
-- Traditional march: 179 (13,201 acres)
-- Ambush: 4 (169 acres)
-- Conquest: 4 (126 acres)
-- Massacre: 4 (15,208 population)
-- Learn: 19
-- Failed: 6 (2.8% failure)
-- Uniques: 95
Total attacks suffered: 103 (4,590 acres)
-- Traditional march: 87 (4,413 acres)
-- Ambush: 3 (177 acres)
-- Massacre: 3 (5,963 population)
-- Learn: 9
-- Failed: 1 (1% failure)
-- Uniques: 41
** The kingdom of EA **
Total land exchanged: +8,906 (216/103)
+1,070 BooZe (14/1)
+881 Asset Specificity (11/0)
+849 a Mama Dragon (11/3)
+826 Queen By Association (12/0)
+764 Skannatati (18/0)
+742 Sectumsempra (10/1)
+735 Brazil is Back (16/1)
+534 Bean (17/6)
+484 Gimli (12/1)
+454 FeelingItOhManThePain (12/2)
+442 M00seFr3ak (9/6)
+333 Shangrila (9/2)
+221 Orc Mania (10/5)
+198 Hate The Drake (1/0)
+188 An unknown province (3/0)
+161 Eglantine (1/0)
+104 i just wanted to explore (1/0)
+92 Forbidden Planet (17/16)
+67 This Aint What You Want (1/0)
+48 Drape Myself in Velvet (1/0)
+37 Electric Avenue (2/0)
+29 Id Tap Prov Above Me (2/0)
-25 Lonely Mountain (10/16)
-328 Waffle Dancing (16/43)
** The kingdom of Honor **
Total land exchanged: -8,906 (103/216)
+245 Ghost of Unique (5/0)
+238 An unknown province (8/0)
+215 Ghost of The Mystic Keep (3/1)
+49 Ghost of Furrbowl (2/0)
+19 Ghost of Kvr (5/0)
- Ghost Of A Stinky Homeless Guy (0/1)
-99 Ghost of Tom Joad (7/7)
-119 Ghosts of Lots of dwarfs (4/2)
-199 Reprisal (9/7)
-264 Ghost of DicksonCiderShire (0/2)
-380 Ghost of Betrayed Otto (0/3)
-530 Ghost of Etro (0/6)
-557 The Ghost Of Fat Bastard (4/14)
-595 Ghost of Snickers (9/18)
-709 Ghost of Baldur (5/21)
-727 Ghost of a Killer (14/27)
-822 Ghost of Hammer (0/6)
-845 Ghost of Storms (6/27)
-846 Ghost of Methos (4/14)
-931 Ghost of Viking (2/17)
-1,005 Ghost of Lightning (0/16)
-1,044 Ghost of Fire (16/27)
We were not expecting a war at all. I logged on when I got home from work and saw that I was down to 300 acres. I literally wiped my eyes to make sure I wasn't missing the "1" that used to be in front. Well played by EA :) We didn't belong anywhere near the top anyway considering this is our first age together as a team.
Convenient use of "we don't belong at the top" again. Still doesn't explain why you waved a 2/2 war kingdom expecting free acres? Inquiring minds like fully covered news stories with no intriguing angles left dangling. :)
Clear FW, treat with GB.:)
Congrats Shinra?
For sake of fully cover news stories, I'll go into a little more (accurate) detail of pre war events. Not to take anything away from Tuk's posts, but he may be playing the victim card a little stronger than necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Verminator
They randomed us ~4 times, a plunder, learn, two land grabs over the course of 24 hours. Someone who got land grabbed ambushed the hit and grabbed back. They hit that prov for land 3 times right after. We proceeded to blanket MS and collect intel. Following that, more hits started to trickle in over 24 hours. We hit fort 24 hours prior to our declare wave with about 20 points on the meter. By the time we declared we had 30 points on the meter.
There was some communication between myself and their leaders, and at one point they asked if we wanted to cf and we delayed as we were sitting in fort swapping builds preparing for declare. If they had actually fully waved us when we first hit fort we probably couldn't have declared as we were already out of declare range when we left fort and had to drop their nw before declaring.
This is my first post ever here in the forums though I have been a player on and off for quite some time.I joined Honor last age and hoping to upgrade from my current kd.I am quite happy with my decision for we have quite a few active and experienced players.I was however extremely surprised to find out that this group had so little history together.So as a group we have most of the pieces and are just going to have to build as a group over time in order to create the kind of group that can compete at this highest level...With that said EA has an activity level that is just out of this world,so hats of to their entire group!We literally woke up,logged in and our three main attackers/orcs (including myself) were completely chained to the ground under 400 acres.....they popped us 40+ times in first wave and the consistency just never stopped.From that point we three orcs were useless to do anything but bottom feed.Tuk is correct we sholdve never waved them,it was a foolish move and wasn't authorized by our monarch,just on of those follow the leader moves that sounds great until you realize that the line leader had Stevie Wonder glasses on.By the time our Mono even knew what was going on we had really pushed the meter up and it was too late.They went fort (we thought they were running,bc of the huge nw difference),but they came out w a vengeance and completely caught us w our pants down.So again hats off to EA they are quite an elite group..as for Honor we are in the 15-20 kd nw range now and we think we can get a few wins here,but hoping to be in contention w Kds like EA in a few ages...
They thought electric ave is free food. Lol. Kingdoms that were in honor range got cf from honor
After waving.
I think this wasn't a fake war.
They just wan to war a much weaker kingdom. In the end , got feasted upon
Nope, not a fake war, an unexpected war. Like Flat line said- still working the kinks out- for quite a few of us- most of us, I think, it's is our first/second age in a long time (8 years for me). As for the 2 war win thing- Personally I got cocky from a couple of wars the previous age that were super easy (since other kingdoms don't know who you are, the first win is almost a guarantee) and just figured they wouldn't declare- and all the other targets were in fort or way too small, otherwise I would have picked one with a worse record- in retrospect, a bad idea. But as I said- still learning.
Edit: I also learned the prov who was supposed to be taking care of mine had major unexpected RL stuff going on, so that counts the two of us out unexpectedly.
To give clarity..we have been top 3-5 all age long and are def not an exploring kd...We have tried to war so many kds this age,however no one in our range really wanted to war us(of course w our experience we knew better to war a certain group of elite kds so they are certainly not who im talking about)We have waved kd after kd with practically no response from any of them....We have all been longing for war since BOA.Activity levels have def dropped out of boredom due to the fact that we couldn't find war...When we semi waved EA,we obviously had no idea of their true identity and had grown cocky like Baldur said.......also we had several ppl away from the game who are normally quite active and pretty much no one was in a war build...was just an amalgamation of several things that contributed to our poor performance this war..but even on all cylinders It would've been extremely difficult for us to keep up w a group as impressive as EA
So who is EA?
this situation sounds very fermilar so i would have to say they are -WSK-
as they did somthing like that to us last age as well lol.
do not stand around wsk with ur pants down... just dont do it hahahahaha
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Originally Posted by mandrake
I don't think we were tagged when we played the unexpected declare card on you last age, surprised you remembered it. *throws fuel in the fire*
... not WSK to clarify, we're having a silage without a full kingdom, messing with non standard stuff :)
;p how could i ever forget that embarrassing war?
we out numbered u had more land and got pwned lol.
yes we were not expecting a war from u so we payed dearly for it hahahaa.
this age i was a little more careful and conservative
so why u hiding without max players i was looking forward to our rematch hahahaha
I'm voting for Modesty
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Minty
Rhymes with "Black-capped chickadee"
Either that or they are Paragon of Duality or Debauchery... those are the only other "top 5" war kds in recent ages that have a name that rhymes with a state bird. They said they were a top 5 KD and Modesty is the only top 5 from last age that rhymes.
Of course, i could be missing a bird =P
no one is going for honor this age!
duh!
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Originally Posted by Cry0
Ha. Not a bad guess, but you actually are missing one. It'll seem pretty obvious once you figure it out.
I am confused, none of the state birds rhyme with shinra. Unless you are really reaching.
i know who they are 100% :-)