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@ CJ, I see you have some overgrown provinces, need landrop on them?
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The sender of that message is Pyromaniacs.
@ CJ, I see you have some overgrown provinces, need landrop on them?
I thought the message was in good humor. Seemed funny to me. What's the big deal?
I generally just take the acres. Maybe its time for a lesson on how to do that?
I hate that they asked politely first before just farming them without mercy!
*faux outrage*
well its ok cj think he is funny, but qustion is was this the act of genius or did he just cost his kingdom the age ?
time will tell i gusse.
Just to clear it up, cj didn't send that to Coss. Coss got that forwarded to him from someone else
hehe I got that message too, but I already been send a dussin others from warring kds who recieved the same sort of message. CJ aint slacking this age :)
i mean, if you can't win the age with talent, might as well win it by farming!
im fine with the concept of landdropping, but this just reminds me of 'the beggar king' from asoiaf..
As far as I am concerned, Pyromaniacs isn't the only kingdom that have asked for land drop this age.
CR, Pew and others have asked for land drops also. And I have seen news where they have dropped kingdoms. I believe that there might be other whoring kingdoms that have messaged. Again, I don't see anything wrong with an attempt to do diplo before any possible hits. There was a kingdom that I messaged that mentioned 4 other kingdoms that have mailed them :P
I don't see what's the purpose of singling us out when all whoring kingdoms have done it before? Is there a reason? If I am not currently top 3 in the server (of which a super small portion of my acres are from LDs, while the rest are through whoring), would you still single me out?
I guess if any CR/Pew or other whoring kingdoms take the stance of no land dropping -> it would be a sign of hypocrite :P Every whoring kingdom in this game has done land dropping the past few ages
Thanks.
how many threads is sleepy going to put out on this? I mean, I get that they are all about taking risks by warring a KD that is completely not in their class to jump to the #1 spot and all that...... I guess, they should have refused that war and sought more risk/reward and fairer terms with wsk.
Why does everyone on this forum live in a glass house? I thought computer nerds hated light...
Don't have to tell you cJ about forum politics. CR might not be best at everything, but I love their damage control rhetoric. I think it's the best in game. They also show an ability to stay quiet when its the smart move.
So much to learn. Pyro is a fine tutor for the rest of us. Like watching a volcano grow, sharing your pains along the way. I'm glad I caught you guys in the infancy of becoming an explorer.
I am sure they are glad you are there to change their diapers strato...
lol fair terms. -_-
I shall take this time to re-state my stance on what we do when we asked a kingdom whether they want a LD or not. There would be several replies that I might get
a) Yes,LD - ezpz
b) No, already arranged with another kingdom - sigh :(
c) No, we have another war with xx - ok gl hf. send me a cf, I'll accept
d) No, we want to grow into this acres - this is tricky. I will relook at the kingdom page and determine how oversized those provinces are. If its barely oversized, I will ask them to send me a CF (I have done that to two kingdoms this age)
If it's way oversized... I will just let them know that I am not able to CF and if my provs do find them as a target and random them.. It's really because they look too juicy. I would also inform them that I am pretty certain those xx provinces will be hit by other kingdoms.
Once again, the concept of land dropping warring tier kingdoms isn't new. It's something that many whoring kingdoms are doing every age. Even before Pyromaniacs have started whoring :) I don't see what's the purpose of singling us out when all whoring kingdoms have done it before? Is there a reason? :P
Thanks
CJ, you are supposed to attack them with no warning ahead of time and not give them any opportunity to prepare or manage the hit. That is how you act fairly. Come on. Sleepy has been every clear about this ever since Mike^ first posted.
Diplomacy before hit = bad
Diplomacy after hit = good
the sad state of the game is that structured acre farmouts are desired (for stupid reasons really), and warring tier kingdoms are almost all horrible. if people were rational actors, they would approach oop the smart way instead of the stupid way, but that is too much to ask of people.
such is the result of the game's overwhelming war focus and the rot it has instilled in the player base. literally, people have to be held by the hand to make sure they do things which should be obvious, and it's not just an activity thing or a leadership thing.
Ok, the following is not sarcastic.
noobium,
what do you mean that this is a consequence of the war focus? What so many people comment on as a grand feature of the game is that everyone can make their own fun and seek it in their own way. Why is this suddenly a bad thing?
weren't you *****ing about structured acre collections an age or two ago?
Absolutely! But it was explained that top KD's want to negotiate structured acres collections and there is nothing wrong with that. Having now accepted that the prevailing sentiment in the game is that there is nothing wrong with structured acres collections and the top has no real interest in warring, I now move on to the question:
"Given that structured acres collections are OK, why is it wrong to engage in diplomacy to structure the acres before initiating hits?"
Certainly it happens in the top doesn't it? "our Cf expires in 48 hrs, give us XX acres or we give notice" and they dance about extend or not and so on right?
this is just a different play on the same practice.
Again, its not that I think it is the greatest, but it is how the top kingdoms have structure play right? So, given the point we are starting from in reviewing this action, this is not in the least bit objectionable.
Different kids are playing for different things (i.e whoring and warring). If a whoring kd offers to take acres from a warring kd because of their differing goals, I don't see whats wrong with it. Both parties achieve what they want and its a win win situation. Cj you are just getting blamed for being too hardworking and stop feeding the trolls
I have to agree with heiney I think. There does not seem to be anything wrong here. Notice the only complainers seem to be from sleepy. I don't see the forum warriors of CR, BB, pewpew, jerks, etc all talking about how this is so terrible (probably because they all do it at least to a certain extent.) So it seems like the only thing CJ does differently is to try to engage people with more alacrity than others.
odd ...
OP doesn't seem to have a sense of humour. What's the big deal?
I think the sense of humor in Sleepy is fine. That being said, my main issue with LD proposal is that it lacks balls. Take a guy waving his dick all round the place- once push comes to shove it becomes apparent there are no balls to support the pillar. Perhaps Sleepy will use this opportunity to educate people in the ways of men.
sure, right after pyro and the rest of the top make them feel like a natural woman.
I see nothing wrong in what cJ is doing here, at least he isnt hitting into active hostiles as some other growth kingdoms..
Also lets face it if pyro didnt ask they could just take them instead and not give anything in exchange for the acres, here they are offering a CF to avoid the war kingdom being randomed, before they come back and ask again after their next war... Again they will only come back and ask if the said kingdom is still in size range for pyro to earn anything out of it.
If you don't know how to whore well you need to find other ways to grow
Sounds pretty insecure after a couple crowns. That war loss still stings prot?
humour is ok
or protctor just have a lil more class then silly cj.
** The kingdom of BeastBlood **
Total land exchanged: -2,242 (313/237)
June 10 of YR5 Unable to achieve victory, our Kingdom has withdrawn from war with PyroManiaCs WARRR (x:xx). Our failed war has finally ended!
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Sounds pretty insecure after a couple crowns. That war loss still stings prot?
Total land exchanged: +17,854 (261/123)
You say wa?
I believe protector because he's dutch.Quote:
** The kingdom of BeastBlood **
Total land exchanged: -2,242 (313/237)
June 10 of YR5 Unable to achieve victory, our Kingdom has withdrawn from war with PyroManiaCs WARRR (x:xx). Our failed war has finally ended!
Dutchies suxor.
just to make a point that we do have some sense of humor. granted, at times it may seem otherwise- depends on where you sit.
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[025956] <&Malibu> Hour Change!! -- New Utopia Time: April 7th, YR1
[032521] <&Malibu> Damage op on Cursed Lands of the 7th raven(5:14) : Released 11 horses - Intel not found. [ haze ]
[032547] <+kniven> releasing horsies eh?
[032610] <@haze> from now on, 2 of my best generals can each ride their own horse to a battle!
[032635] <+kniven> as they should
[032637] <@maugrim> lol
[032707] <+vir> haze, you stole the horses??
[032711] <@haze> yes
[032713] <@haze> i have done it
[032716] <+vir> ****
[032728] <@haze> ? .(
[032729] <@haze> how so
[032729] <+vir> i still have to accomplish this mission
[032734] <@haze> but please, by all means
[032737] <@haze> go for the same dude
[032757] <+vir> i will
[032806] <+vir> but not until they deserve it
[032819] <@haze> aye, that is true. mine did a good job during war .d
[032824] <+vir> bottomfeeding a whole war dont earn anyone a horse
[032835] <@haze> mm ya, i see your point
[032836] <+kniven> completing steam achievements?
[032841] <@haze> you hold your generals to a higher standard
[032846] <@haze> im a simple tm
[032908] <+vir> after i bust the first bank i will steal them two horses
[032924] <+vir> or maybe even build a stable
[032943] <+vir> i will probably also build a library after 10k acres
[032954] <+vir> i will have a large population by then and i dont want them to be retards
[032957] <+kniven> how cultural
[033005] <@haze> indeed indeed
[033011] <@haze> vision!
lol i like the 2 best generals can ride..
What you do if you play avian then? how do you show graditude to your 2 best generals in that case?