After reading so many roll back posts, figured I'd make my own. Simple yes or no should suffice.
My vote is yes.
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After reading so many roll back posts, figured I'd make my own. Simple yes or no should suffice.
My vote is yes.
You going to add a poll to this?
But we'd lose 2 hours of progress... just to save hundreds of players from being unfairly victimized while hundreds of other players gain an unfair benefit... wait, isn't that the foundation of some of the nastier principles in the world today? Screw one group of people so another group can gain? Ouch. Getting mentality-ugly in here. ;)
I think the bug has been intentionally caused by the Feyr Play Alliance, it clearly benefits their nefarious agendas in one way or another. Any recent wrong doing can likely be traced back to them afterall.
reset please
I'm actually wondering why something like this is so difficult to repair. Can someone enlighten me?
Other than people who slacked and weren't on for OOP to be able to hit as if they were online, what's the big deal and how is anyone affected?
Flooger: You are talking about Utopia players... It is a perfect situation to rant about.. Justified or not...
No reset.. period..
I think this is reason enough to GB emeriti.
darkmoore is back???
The devs set aside a very small amount of time for this game, they have jobs and such as well, so I would reason that Bishop is giving them a proper amount of time to a) finish sleeping, b) wake up and go to work, c) come home and examine the game. Unfortunately for them (and us), we're running into their Friday night, so let's hope they didn't have any plans then too. ;)
I am okay with either way just as long as it starts again soon. This is not the best way to retain new players or old players for that matter :( As far as advantage, adapt and overcome!
I feel that the age should just do a complete complete restart, with different spawn locations.
Also, would be good if the devs give a credit to each player!
WHO do you think you are?
Coming here and asking for Good treatment of your costemers?? with that right do you ask this ??
You can not just walk in here, and claim to be reanable treated!! This is utopia - not any kind of game! there is a reason to why the playerbase is going ever smaller!
Coming here with your lotic and reason! baah
anyone who got hit just can hit back. Don't see any real problem there
The problem with restarting without reassigning locs is that some kingdoms waved others OOP, and if you restart the silly nubs who weren't prepared in the first place can prepare themselves now ;)
Also, this is obviously Floggers fault ;)
Under a normal mechanic, kingdom A gets all its troops on at OOP, they fight through the lag on the server, deal with lost ops from all the "Oops" the frustrations of having to navigate through the network inefficiencies and all the rest. Then manage to get their troops out. then some 7 hrs later people show up and start hitting.....
Under current mechanic: kingdom A gets all its troops on at OOP, they fight through the lag on the server, deal with lost ops from all the "Oops" the frustrations of having to navigate through the network inefficiencies and all the rest. Then manage to get their troops out, Then as late as 24 hrs later people show up and start hitting, except its not 24 hrs later it ALL happens in ONE hour...
And you don't think that is unfair? There is an assumption of risk when you attack based on how long you are exposed to attack. This crap has thrown all of that out the window. It is completely unfair to all the kingdom A's out there.
Even though i hate oop and i got through it once again, i agree it should reset with new locs
We have no plans to reset anything right now.
Of course its giving those guys a disadvantage and its annoying to hit through the lag, I don't think anyone could say otherwise. However it happens often during the age without reimbursement and at great cost to many kds. Arguably they get more hard done by because the game misses a few ticks and then does them all at once which can be much worse.
The only difference is that those that lose out now are the top and more active kds. They are the ones that tend to login early and through the lag so they are the ones who will have to deal with this problem. Taking the challenge is better than another weak off utopia.
We know that Bishop, but this thread is about why you SHOULD.
Except this is done AT THE BEGINNING before anyone has invested anything, so it is almost completely not disadvantaging the less competitive kingdoms and those that have not logged in. Except that it is done AT THE BEGINNING where initial moves are more critical to one segment of the game than others. EXCEPT also that this was done by COMPLETE NEGLIGENCE in coding by the developers. Mistakes happen, but then you should do what is the best correction not put the onus on others to "take the challenge".
Also, this would not take another week. They can set freeze time for whatever length they want. It can reset and be going again in 48 hrs with a Monday OOP.
I know that, and others do to. This is where we disagree and discuss the bases of our disagreement.
Why would there be a reset? They handled this the correct way this time. Problem -> Pause. This is unlike last round where there was 24-48 hr window where you could not aid and they didn't do anything about it. Kingdoms who had an aid-based strategy were absolutely ruined.
Everyone who is saying there should be a reset has had a bad protection and it had nothing to do with this bug, or pause.
Not at all Godly. I would argue that people have taken more hits than they otherwise would have (relative to the number they send out) as a result of this pause. It makes a difference.
At a minimum, byt the time the late hitters have logged on, more defense would have been trained so it would have cost them more offense to send out. This has been a winfall for later loggers.
So you're upset that the less active players have had a larger opportunity window to make their first hit? You're just a bad player. You're supposed to be in a top tier kingdom and yet you're crying about noobs.
Bishop technically there is no advantage as troops and everything comes home at the same time. However, as said above those that didnt hit in the oop tick has had 24 hours to calmly intel provs with no rush whatsoever to find their perfect target instead of the frenzy of the oop tick.
In addition kingdoms going for a full wave have had 24 ticks to intel other kingdoms, had time to strategize and get an organized wave in instead of a frenzy wave. This is a huge advantage to the aggressor kingdom. Specially if they have chosen to wait to close of end of freeze time, as it gives the defending kingdom much less time to strategize.
No, I am not crying about noobs, I am saying they have gotten help they otherwise would not have had. It changes a lot.
This is another valid point.
Another one is that there are people who woke up at 3am their time to make these things happen to gain an advantage. Now you are slapping them in the face.
I would love to come on here and complain about this round and get a reset since I only hit for 150 (very low number for me), but I'm a fair person.
No, the disadvantage is, of course, that all of the really good targets were gone in the first minute by people like me. Like you guys keep reaching, there is nothing there. I can somewhat agree on the "strategy" component of getting an additional 24 hours, but at the same time, come on people.. this is utopia... does it really take that long to know if you're going to fight or run?
If their was a reason to restart, it would only be fair to give the same freeze time and even tinker with races and personalities again. People have played their cards already and kds need a freeze time to re-think and re-prepare. Obviously kds like yours only need a short freeze time, your all on utopia all day!
I dont think this is the basis of the decision, that was merely a side point. My point about evening things out was not to say that its ideal, I'm just saying that it effects ALL super kds who login to attack with the same drawback. When these things happen during the age there are just random kds who are unlucky and get screwed.
I disagree, people have invested. And its sometimes much more difficult for smaller kds to get organised and keep hold of their players. This only makes things worse for them.
How would a reset make it worse for them lampost? I don't see your point there.
The investment point I made is regarding the level of development of the provinces in the game.
Like based on these posts, I can safely conclude that Pyro had a bad OOP. There is no justification for a "pro" player to be this concerned about giving noobs 24 hours to make an attack or "strategize." The drawback of resetting? How are you going to tell the people who logged in for every tick, showed up OOP, made great hits, etc. that they have to do it again due to Sheister getting hit by noobs, which would have happened in both worlds.
I got your point. Coming from the ghetto, its tough to recruit, tough to encourage, tough to create energy and tough to keep people together. At the top end you guys easily get 25 and if someone slips out there are 10 others willing to take his place. Restarting for some minor disadvantage clearly benefits the top kds ( in comparison to what would have been had the age not started like this.)
Again I'm not saying it does not suck to hit through the lag, we all hate it. But to restart the age over it??? I can think of worse things.