Spectre won their vulture war!

Easy war win.
Easy learns in wars.
Easy double hostile.
Easy vulturing.

Easy like Sunday morning

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Poor Jerks never saw it coming... Looks like Zulu was there also! lol

Too easy. Don't know why Jerks declared on them too. Easy donations. Wave jerks for more easy war wins!

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Originally Posted by revrev

Too easy. Don't know why Jerks declared on them too. Easy donations. Wave jerks for more easy war wins!

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You could always wave spectre... and then let them declare on you and see if it WAS an easy war ;-)

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Originally Posted by umajon911

You could always wave spectre... and then let them declare on you and see if it WAS an easy war ;-)

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Of course, it would be so easy to win if I am +1mill more than Spectre. But of course, Spectre can't war kds bigger than them.

Note : I am in the kd that accepted Spectre's cf before waving jerks.

Still vulturing after vulturing, KD after KD and still claiming the higher ground. Well played Spectre
This game is dead.

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Originally Posted by revrev

Of course, it would be so easy to win if I am +1mill more than Spectre. But of course, Spectre can't war kds bigger than them.

Note : I am in the kd that accepted Spectre's cf before waving jerks.

Still vulturing after vulturing, KD after KD and still claiming the higher ground. Well played Spectre
This game is dead.

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Sounds like a challenge to me!!! lol *not instigating at all* :-p

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Originally Posted by revrev

Of course, it would be so easy to win if I am +1mill more than Spectre. But of course, Spectre can't war kds bigger than them.

Note : I am in the kd that accepted Spectre's cf before waving jerks.

Still vulturing after vulturing, KD after KD and still claiming the higher ground. Well played Spectre
This game is dead.

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Hipmunks? I'm pretty sure y'all were a million nw larger than us and u declined war

Or was it the History Makers? I'm pretty sure they were also larger and declined war as well

Tell Orenthalia I say hi.

It still baffles me how insulting a team that just lost sound like a good idea to so many.

I was busy so I missed this war. Pretty sure both kingdoms had a reason for warring otherwise they may have said something. It's not like this is Jerks' first rodeo.
There are a million reasons a kingdom may decide to war someone bigger.
Maybe they thought they could win it but a tiny thing can happen and cost you a war. So maybe they miscalculated their success rate. With big risk comes big rewards, eoa it may have been worth the gamble.
Maybe they have a new crew and wanted to learn something together. Expecting a loss but walking away more experienced thus richer.
Or maybe they didn't plan at all and just figured what the heck it's eoa let's do it.

None of above cases means they GAVE Spectre anything. They are also no indication that Spectre bullied them. So unless Jerks say they were bullied I don't think anyone else has a right to.

Jerks warred Spectre because spectre waved into their previous hostile with us (NBD).

If it was up to me, I would have personally waved spectre while they were at war with Jerks. We beat Jerks easily when we warred them, but prior to that Spectre consistanly declined war with us... Even though they were a hell of a lot bigger than we were.

It was a dodge by Spectre, and I commend Jerks for taking the fight back to them. Even though they couldnt win, they fought the good fight. More kingdoms should behave like this.

Respect to Jerks!

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Originally Posted by ThRaZe

Jerks warred Spectre because spectre waved into their previous hostile with us (NBD).

If it was up to me, I would have personally waved spectre while they were at war with Jerks. We beat Jerks easily when we warred them, but prior to that Spectre consistanly declined war with us... Even though they were a hell of a lot bigger than we were.

It was a dodge by Spectre, and I commend Jerks for taking the fight back to them. Even though they couldnt win, they fought the good fight. More kingdoms should behave like this.

Respect to Jerks!

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so you are saying you beat them easy, but were going back for seconds? I am also confused as the word dodge is brought up so much lately...if you were in a hostile with jerks, how exactly did Spectre dodge you by warring jerks?

Until we hear from jerks themselves it is a far more likely scenerio that jerks just didn't want to war you again and chose to war spectre instead. Just going by what you present as facts.

This issues with spectre and jerks happened during our hostile with jerks.

Spectre declining warring us, was just prior to this.

EDIT: there is no seconds for us... We warred jerks in an arranged war and won. They got waved by spectre during our active hostile.... No nitpicking at any actions made, just saying respect to Jerks for at least trying to get revenge.

EDIT 2: this should give u some background info

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...obvious-double

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Originally Posted by ThRaZe

Jerks warred Spectre because spectre waved into their previous hostile with us (NBD).

If it was up to me, I would have personally waved spectre while they were at war with Jerks. We beat Jerks easily when we warred them, but prior to that Spectre consistanly declined war with us... Even though they were a hell of a lot bigger than we were.

It was a dodge by Spectre, and I commend Jerks for taking the fight back to them. Even though they couldnt win, they fought the good fight. More kingdoms should behave like this.

Respect to Jerks!

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consistently declined? lol where do u get this information from?

I'll do you a favour, i'll be waving u once we are out of eowcf. Dont go dodging now

I'll be waiting...

ghetto with no shot at any crown. next.

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Originally Posted by Kandy

consistently declined? lol where do u get this information from?

I'll do you a favour, i'll be waving u once we are out of eowcf. Dont go dodging now

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*clap clap clap* Can I join this fun?? I hear there is a Utopia War going on!! Ill bring my boys with me! :-D Kandy let me know who, when, and where!

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Originally Posted by crease

ghetto with no shot at any crown. next.

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Ghetto...whats your definition of ghetto. Last I checked, they arent that ghetto. So I would like to know your logic behind this one..douche

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Originally Posted by umajon911

Ghetto...whats your definition of ghetto. Last I checked, they arent that ghetto. So I would like to know your logic behind this one..douche

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jerks are sleeping this age and who the hell is spectre. As i said. ghettoes.


Youve not been here long i take it? On every conflict thread there is 2 obligatory comments, "sn0re" + "who are these ghettoes"

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Originally Posted by crease

jerks are sleeping this age and who the hell is spectre. As i said. ghettoes.


Youve not been here long i take it? On every conflict thread there is 2 obligatory comments, "sn0re" + "who are these ghettoes"

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Ive been here longer than what my account says ;-) I just find it funny that people think a KD that comes from nowhere is instantly called a ghetto. Only if you knew the true story behind the KD and the leader, they are far from ghetto. People need to get facts straight first before jumping to conclusions.

its inconsequential of whether a kd is a ghetto or not. If the top 2 were to war the comment would still be made....

Not spectre, jerks or us are are ghetto... This would be a Great War, hence us trying to war spectre earlier. We fight good wars, not easy wars.

I love great wars, win or lose :)

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Originally Posted by crease

its inconsequential of whether a kd is a ghetto or not. If the top 2 were to war the comment would still be made....

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which doesn't make it any less insulting , disrespectful and more importantly wrong.

for everyone else, just disregard the troll. Consider the source. WSK trying so hard to shine and can't even get an honorable mention anywhere so they have to troll others threads to try and appear relevant.

As do I! :)

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

which doesn't make it any less insulting , disrespectful and more importantly wrong.

for everyone else, just disregard the troll. Consider the source. WSK trying so hard to shine and can't even get an honorable mention anywhere so they have to troll others threads to try and appear relevant.

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So what you are saying...is that WSK is open to being razed?! ;-)

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

which doesn't make it any less insulting , disrespectful and more importantly wrong.

for everyone else, just disregard the troll. Consider the source. WSK trying so hard to shine and can't even get an honorable mention anywhere so they have to troll others threads to try and appear relevant.

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wsk has a new rooster this age and has close to no team synergy or activity, if you consider that trying so hard to shine then yeah we are. Otherwise, youve picked an insult out of thin air. Nice job. You were the first to troll... also new then eh

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Originally Posted by umajon911

So what you are saying...is that WSK is open to being razed?! ;-)

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carry on

Roger that!! :-D

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Originally Posted by umajon911

So what you are saying...is that WSK is open to being razed?! ;-)

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definitely NOT what I am saying.

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

definitely NOT what I am saying.

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well thats no fun!!! I could have sworn I read somewhere that there was a Utopia war going on...figured that was part of it :)

How has this thread got anything to do with wsk? No offense, but derailing is why these forums are in bad shape. This thread started by someone poking fun at spectre for being vultures and jerks for being an insta-win war target. Neither of which are true. I Look forward to warring spectre at some stage. /closed

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Originally Posted by ThRaZe

How has this thread got anything to do with wsk?

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Yea, get back on topic.

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Originally Posted by Palem

Yea, get back on topic.

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This has everything to do with Wsk! - Kidding. It just reminded me of the Vizzini scene in Princess Bride.

Am I the first Jerk to answer the thread? I skipped most of it.

Well I asked if we were waving for war because as many of you know, I'm a traveler/kingdom hopper. I was told yes so I stayed. I'm sure the history of hostiles is known here.

Our initial wave was the best I've seen since I arrived here but little did we know we had unprepared provinces. The short answer is our ops capability was shut down within the day. The rest is up to speculation. I've been in wars, in other kingdoms, where our entire t/m core refused to op and still felt we had some tactical advantages. Yes, more than once.

I must assume my lawyer mode now and simply wish you all a Merry Christmas.

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This has everything to do with Wsk! - Kidding. It just reminded me of the Vizzini scene in Princess Bride.

Am I the first Jerk to answer the thread? I skipped most of it.

Well I asked if we were waving for war because as many of you know, I'm a traveler/kingdom hopper. I was told yes so I stayed. I'm sure the history of hostiles is known here.

Our initial wave was the best I've seen since I arrived here but little did we know we had unprepared provinces. The short answer is our ops capability was shut down within the day. The rest is up to speculation. I've been in wars, in other kingdoms, where our entire t/m core refused to op and still felt we had some tactical advantages. Yes, more than once.

I must assume my lawyer mode now and simply wish you all a Merry Christmas.

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How does an ENTIRE TM core decide that they do not want to play during war... that just boggles my mind. I was watching stats for this war and you guys have a GREAT initial push it seemed, but then it all seemed to flip around and do a 180.

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Originally Posted by umajon911

How does an ENTIRE TM core decide that they do not want to play during war... that just boggles my mind. I was watching stats for this war and you guys have a GREAT initial push it seemed, but then it all seemed to flip around and do a 180.

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To be honest, the kingdoms that we had total t/m refusal to participate, they were angry and vague. I was never aware of their goals or motives. One would assume this is where the suspected multis roam. But really t/m inactivity is rampant in many lower tier kingdoms. So are undead tacticians. It's like a disease.

My presence in Jerks was pure chance as I randomed into the game late mid-age. In a serious age I would've left already because I'm limited in my ability to interact with the more common communication and intel systems.

I won't speculate on Jerks tactics. The reason is because I know they've tangled with the likes of AMA and thus have seen the maw of the dragon. It occurs to me that I will not see Jerks in full battle array. This is ok, as I'm only here as a guest.

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Originally Posted by StratOcastle

To be honest, the kingdoms that we had total t/m refusal to participate, they were angry and vague. I was never aware of their goals or motives. One would assume this is where the suspected multis roam. But really t/m inactivity is rampant in many lower tier kingdoms. So are undead tacticians. It's like a disease.

My presence in Jerks was pure chance as I randomed into the game late mid-age. In a serious age I would've left already because I'm limited in my ability to interact with the more common communication and intel systems.

I won't speculate on Jerks tactics. The reason is because I know they've tangled with the likes of AMA and thus have seen the maw of the dragon. It occurs to me that I will not see Jerks in full battle array. This is ok, as I'm only here as a guest.

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Im curious to learn of your experiences now from being in what sounds like super ghettos to where you are at right now :)

God what a drama by an outside nub apparently.

So to be very clear, whether it was a double hostile or not depends on your view as clearly appeared from the other topic. I will not go into debate on that. It doesn't even matter. People in SPECTRE took offence to what JERKS said and wrote here. including a post that we would be crying in a next fight. So it was decided to take it to them after they finished their war. We did NOT nor WILL touch them during a war (as someone suggested to do to us in a post here), they could either have dropped a CF after our wave or take it to war.

They showed proper cojones and took the fight back to us. Respect to them for that,

and we werent expecting that after looking for a war for weeks. So they had a nice advantage, just didnt go for our faeries while they still could. Their TM actually did their work, we had NM waves lots of NS etc. Just not running wts on elf mystics was a mistake. Either way. we fought it out, we won, and we talked it out in the forums. So if you guys wanna keep making drama over something which is not involving you: have fun. Just tried to give you a proper idea of what the status is.

Also yes we where bigger but we had an issue to settle. Just like we settled an issue with pyro(far bigger than us) as well, which cost us a prov but still. We did what uto was made for: fight and talk it out.. not this never ending pre war diplo BS which you see around so often nowadays.
on the side: Only thing I wish for is that auto war is limited to kds 66%-150% your size or something to avoid the smaller kd getting stuck with their hit count.

PS: yes we turned down NDB, but had kds up to 1-1.5 mil bigger refuse us, generally there have been 2 kds we avoided, the 200NWPA+ kd and noobies during that search. For simple reasons that we wanted a more doable fight as kd after the pyro mess to get the morale up. Turning DNB was apparently not the smartest thing seeing their hate for us now :D

We dont hate you. By any means. Neither do I from a personal note.

I simply stated i commended Jerks for their "taking the fight to u". Also defended some dude calling u ghettos.

Your reasoning is valid for not wanting to war us... some of us were just a little dissapointed that u declined war with us, then waved the kingdom we were hostile with.
I personally would have just liked to war you guys instead, as it would have been far more interesting.