Public Apology

Dear Utopian Community and The Kingdom of NonPandas,

In the name of the Kingdom of Jesters I hereby apologize the Kingdom of NonPandas for obvious dealbreaking. Although acting out of revenge and spite feeling toward the enemy for past deeds, dealbreaking is not the right way to do it and in the future we, the Kingdom of Jesters, promise to act accrodingly to the community standards. We also apologise for the unsportsmanlike posts that some of our Kingdom members posted in our shared war forum.

In the name of the Kingdom of Jesters I hereby apologize the Utopian Community for offending them with this obvious dealbreak.

I take full responsibility for giving out orders to attack nonPandas.

Best regards,
janK

Lame

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Originally Posted by Palem

Lame

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If you say so, my English is third world. ;)

Not lame at all. I can only speak for myself but apology accepted. It must have been hard for you to do that. Hopefully we can meet another age in a fair war and have a fun time.

Let me get this straight.... You're making a public apology about breaking a rule that isn't really an official game rule, WHILE PLAYING A GAME? IN A GAME? YOU'RE APOLOGIZING FOR PLAYING A GAME? I am not sure what's more scary, you apologizing or the people that demanded you apologize to end this silliness (if they did demand it that is).

And if this is all just a big piece of sarcasm then....#strongtroll

Palem is that you?

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Originally Posted by Legality

...the people that demanded you apologize to end this silliness (if they did demand it that is).

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We did not ask for them to apologize., they offered to though.

Very well written jank

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Originally Posted by Palem

Lame

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Palem, don't you think that posting that ^^^ response is a bit out of line? JanK spent time and effort on posting that, and your response is lame?

With that said, janK the core players of nonpandas accept your apology. Nonpanda LS i cant speak for, Ill leave that to them :P.

As for the nonpanda future, we shall see...

Was it meant like that? I took it as palem saying -lame to wd-

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Originally Posted by Frugal Baggins

Was it meant like that? I took it as palem saying -lame to wd-

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I hope it was ....

From what i hear, valhalla has a bunch of boobs and booz

pierniczek, you need to set proper CF deal with all involved sides for its to end. Good you apology panda/santa for DB.

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Originally Posted by pierniczek

Dear Utopian Community and The Kingdom of NonPandas,

In the name of the Kingdom of Jesters I hereby apologize the Kingdom of NonPandas for obvious dealbreaking. Although acting out of revenge and spite feeling toward the enemy for past deeds, dealbreaking is not the right way to do it and in the future we, the Kingdom of Jesters, promise to act accrodingly to the community standards. We also apologise for the unsportsmanlike posts that some of our Kingdom members posted in our shared war forum.

In the name of the Kingdom of Jesters I hereby apologize the Utopian Community for offending them with this obvious dealbreak.

I take full responsibility for giving out orders to attack nonPandas.

Best regards,
janK

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I thought you were much stronger than this after seeing the posts you had made in another thread. You are trying to create a new chapter.
But what makes you come to this conclusion and making this move. I am curious.

It was like you already have half your kingdom killed. What could be worse?? Players leaving? No one helps you in your situation? Not even your allies that you pledge allegiance?

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Originally Posted by legality

let me get this straight.... You're making a public apology about breaking a rule that isn't really an official game rule, while playing a game? In a game? You're apologizing for playing a game? I am not sure what's more scary, you apologizing or the people that demanded you apologize to end this silliness (if they did demand it that is).

And if this is all just a big piece of sarcasm then....#strongtroll

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"like"

Believe it or not, Jesters was wrong and they apologized for it. I'll be the first to thank them for not going the flame out and die rout: You only do that if you were in the right.

It's not that I don't see Jesters side. My opinion is if you are randomed you settle it right then and there. Some kingdom pisses in your war prep, everything stops. - CF the proposed target and rock the kingdom that's nosing around. Even if the CF fails you have tunnel vision for your aggressor.

Sure, I've seen a few kingdoms schlepping resources against kingdoms in war prep, but you hit the one that you know is trying to say something. And you stick to them. Everybody gets a turn but you make sure you aim through the smug ones first. Diplomacy is a paper tiger. It won't work for you at a disadvantage unless you have noble friends...but then you don't need it.

Mickey: Nobody brings a fella the size of you unless they're trying to say something without talking, right?

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Originally Posted by pierniczek

Dear Utopian Community and The Kingdom of NonPandas,

In the name of the Kingdom of Jesters I hereby apologize the Kingdom of NonPandas for obvious dealbreaking. Although acting out of revenge and spite feeling toward the enemy for past deeds, dealbreaking is not the right way to do it and in the future we, the Kingdom of Jesters, promise to act accrodingly to the community standards. We also apologise for the unsportsmanlike posts that some of our Kingdom members posted in our shared war forum.

In the name of the Kingdom of Jesters I hereby apologize the Utopian Community for offending them with this obvious dealbreak.

I take full responsibility for giving out orders to attack nonPandas.

Best regards,
janK

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So presumably this means that you'll be offering all the kingdoms that participated in the raze an unconditional CF?

Here we have the boy who flipped the table, standing publicly in front of the class and apologizing for his inappropriate behavior.

Those who are strong view him as weak.
Those who are weak view him as traitor.

And as for the bullies?
They are simply happy that all is right in their world and order have finally been restored.

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Originally Posted by StratOcastle

It's not that I don't see Jesters side. My opinion is if you are randomed you settle it right then and there. Some kingdom pisses in your war prep, everything stops. - CF the proposed target and rock the kingdom that's nosing around. Even if the CF fails you have tunnel vision for your aggressor.

Sure, I've seen a few kingdoms schlepping resources against kingdoms in war prep, but you hit the one that you know is trying to say something. And you stick to them. Everybody gets a turn but you make sure you aim through the smug ones first. Diplomacy is a paper tiger. It won't work for you at a disadvantage unless you have noble friends...but then you don't need it.

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Well when they talked to me during negotiations they admitted that this was all about preventing us from taking to much lead to early, we had a good lead and they said that would ruin the age so they had to stop us, also they thought we were about to notice some specific kds and they didnt want that to happen, all the other stuff they wrote on the forum was pretty much just a way of trying to justify it..

How much the apology i worth i guess we will see later, it might be a show of honesty and having some value or it might just be a play to save their last big provinces.. Will talk with them later and see whats what. I have some trust issues with this kd atm but will try to not judge before we have talked with them.

Im willing to accept apology for what they have done to us once diplomacy talks been made and solved with all parties involved and when LS have accepted it.

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Originally Posted by Anri

Im willing to accept apology for what they have done to us once diplomacy talks been made and solved with all parties involved and when LS have accepted it.

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Im willing to accept apology for what you have done too. Can i expect it this age or wont be soon?

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Originally Posted by Elit

Im willing to accept apology for what you have done too. Can i expect it this age or wont be soon?

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If it would stop you from dwelling of the past i would do it on the behalf of everyone in here.

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Originally Posted by Anri

If it would stop you from dwelling of the past i would do it on the behalf of everyone in here.

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Im looking for sincere one not for sake on rest ppl.

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Originally Posted by Elit

why some one need to sing this kind agreement?

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If you sing for me! Need youtube link and proof it is you.

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Originally Posted by vir

Well when they talked to me during negotiations they admitted that this was all about preventing us from taking to much lead to early, we had a good lead and they said that would ruin the age so they had to stop us, also they thought we were about to notice some specific kds and they didnt want that to happen, all the other stuff they wrote on the forum was pretty much just a way of trying to justify it..

How much the apology i worth i guess we will see later, it might be a show of honesty and having some value or it might just be a play to save their last big provinces.. Will talk with them later and see whats what. I have some trust issues with this kd atm but will try to not judge before we have talked with them.

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Agreed, normally I hadn't thought of Jesters as a "world view" kingdom. Then again they have been floating around up there lately.

With all the consolidating mergers it's getting harder to track who's who. The motives of an alien core might shift the behavior of an otherwise stable kingdom.

For what it's worth, in the parlance of war kingdom doctrine, I never thought of NonPandas as the type of kingdom that one would want to block. In other words, NonPandas historically fought things out; or I should say the defunct kingdoms that make up NonPandas.

If the message sent is that no kingdom can rely on pump uninhibited then I might see a meaningful end: The bottom is gaining self esteem. But, if the sole purpose was to block then your true opponent is likely in your own backyard.

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Originally Posted by StratOcastle

Agreed, normally I hadn't thought of Jesters as a "world view" kingdom. Then again they have been floating around up there lately.

With all the consolidating mergers it's getting harder to track who's who. The motives of an alien core might shift the behavior of an otherwise stable kingdom.

For what it's worth, in the parlance of war kingdom doctrine, I never thought of NonPandas as the type of kingdom that one would want to block. In other words, NonPandas historically fought things out; or I should say the defunct kingdoms that make up NonPandas.

If the message sent is that no kingdom can rely on pump uninhibited then I might see a meaningful end: The bottom is gaining self esteem. But, if the sole purpose was to block then your true opponent is likely in your own backyard.

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Originally Posted by vir

Well when they talked to me during negotiations they admitted that this was all about preventing us from taking to much lead to early, we had a good lead and they said that would ruin the age so they had to stop us, also they thought we were about to notice some specific kds and they didnt want that to happen, all the other stuff they wrote on the forum was pretty much just a way of trying to justify it..

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which specific KD they wanted to prevent you from engaging ?
Say it publicly, I am sure so many ppl are curious about it =)

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Originally Posted by citadela01

which specific KD they wanted to prevent you from engaging ?
Say it publicly, I am sure so many ppl are curious about it =)

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Honestly, there were no kingdoms we could have noticed at the time, since we had CF's with all the top. They were wrong with their information.

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Originally Posted by citadela01

which specific KD they wanted to prevent you from engaging ?
Say it publicly, I am sure so many ppl are curious about it =)

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I was hoping we'd all mention the wrong kingdoms to drive you nuts. ;-)

"who, TFC? They've been pulling the strings for quite some time." in Phil Hartman voice(rip)

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Originally Posted by citadela01

which specific KD they wanted to prevent you from engaging ?
Say it publicly, I am sure so many ppl are curious about it =)

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Far as I know we were the first KD they could notice, about 3-4 days from the DB. I don't know all their CFs though so no idea if we were the first. Back then all in Pandas leadership told me to not worry because they weren't going to notice us, but that might've been a ploy.

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Far as I know we were the first KD they could notice, about 3-4 days from the DB. I don't know all their CFs though so no idea if we were the first. Back then all in Pandas leadership told me to not worry because they weren't going to notice us, but that might've been a ploy.

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Is it truth you asked for CF extension from Pandas and was denied one day before you friends Jesters decided to db and wave them with some weakass excuse ?

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Originally Posted by citadela01

Is it truth you asked for CF extension from Pandas and was denied one day before you friends Jesters decided to db and wave them with some weakass excuse ?

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Tbf I honestly don't know. I don't keep logs and my memory for this kind of stuff doesn't go back more than an hour or so. You'd have to ask Pandas. It is entirely plausible though that at that time I would've asked them for an extension.

Would like to re-emphasize that Jesters aren't our "friends/allies" as in we plan **** together or hold common council. I am also friends with Zauper, Owa, Dovkam, Strato, Noobum and many others in the world of utopia, yet I do not dictate their way of play (unless they happen to play for me. Janek (Pierniczkczkzkzk as you know him here) is a good guy and we have a lot in common so we like to talk about those things. Most of our conversations are about IRL though, and I never ever tried to influence his play.

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Tbf I honestly don't know. I don't keep logs and my memory for this kind of stuff doesn't go back more than an hour or so. You'd have to ask Pandas. It is entirely plausible though that at that time I would've asked them for an extension.

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I know your a gif and meme person ... let me try to get message across in a way you will understand ...

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Tbf I honestly don't know. I don't keep logs and my memory for this kind of stuff doesn't go back more than an hour or so. You'd have to ask Pandas. It is entirely plausible though that at that time I would've asked them for an extension.

Would like to re-emphasize that Jesters aren't our "friends/allies" as in we plan **** together or hold common council. I am also friends with Zauper, Owa, Dovkam, Strato, Noobum and many others in the world of utopia, yet I do not dictate their way of play (unless they happen to play for me. Janek (Pierniczkczkzkzk as you know him here) is a good guy and we have a lot in common so we like to talk about those things. Most of our conversations are about IRL though, and I never ever tried to influence his play.

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Originally Posted by citadela01

I know your a gif and meme person ... let me try to get message across in a way you will understand ...

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...bbo1qbnd1c.gif

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LOL so true .....

Well Loons since you're from Pandas you can ask one of the other 24 leaders if I sent them a message asking for extension?

Just to confirm things, Bart asked for an extension 25th August, we refused it. Jerters dealbroke us 35 hours after that.

Coincidence I bet ? I will let you judge, Bart was the first kd we could notice.

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Originally Posted by Cappodocians

Just to confirm things, Bart asked for an extension 25th August, we refused it. Jerters dealbroke us 35 hours after that.

Coincidence I bet ? Bart were the first kd we could notice.

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Sounds like Spartans was behind this?

Well I guess we've been building towards this all age right?

1. Block Spartans OOP
2. Send in multis to hit Sparta's banks
3. Send in FS to further block Sparta
4. Get a farm-war for which you can blame Sparta
5. GB Sparta

Classic top-play guys. Also funny because people in your KD told me that Pandas wouldn't go after us so we had nothing to worry about. Haters simply can't stand a warring-tier ghetto kicking your asses.