Seems to be quite a fight about top spot. Any inside info? Heard something about one kd getting massive gc aid (close to 300mil gc) pre round 2. That should deffo shape things!
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Seems to be quite a fight about top spot. Any inside info? Heard something about one kd getting massive gc aid (close to 300mil gc) pre round 2. That should deffo shape things!
Yeah, Spartans were mad we were occupying TBB because they wanted to farm TBB so they could war Emeriti viably so to try and boost TBB past us, bart decided to farm them hundreds of millions of gold.
Personally, I think farming out gold to people's war opponents directly into a conflict is using your resources directly against them and should be considered a dealbreak.
Sounds pretty unfair. Definitely a violation of the 1 v 1 fight. There is no way an honor crown should be decided in such a dispicable manner.
Don't forget TBB had all war wins removed for doing fake wars using a multi to give buttons. Too bad bishop didn't take their honor too.
Sounds to me like emeriti may pay them a visit after their war for colluding to semi gangbang them by intentionally feeding out
Sounds like TBB needs to get raze kills imo
Seriously, get over yourself. Most of the top, no, EVERY SINGLE TOP-KD I KNOW has directly funded our wars or those of people I know, and this is not an incident, it's something happening structurally over the ages.
1. Palestine you funded a million conflicts over the years. A prime example was you giving ascension tens of if not hundreds of millions 3 ages ago when they landdropped to you to war us (with us having a war agreed). I'd like you to claim on these forums right now that your kingdom hasn't funded a single KD cash before war during the last 2 ages. Or a better question would be, is it more or less than 20?
2. CR itself was the main funder of conflicts ALL ACROSS THE SERVER during their B2B2B adventure. Hell, we were one of the main beneficiaries of this. An example is the Expendables age, when CR farmed us like 400M gc to engage a KD (I think it was TNB?) that had a CF running out with crazies, only to prevent Crazies from farming said KD. CR is a serial funder of wars, many of which were fought by Sparta at the cost of those we faced. We'd then after war farm land to CR, in return for which we'd get a nice bump of cash again for the next conflict.
CR very well knows the reasons why this happen. You somehow mistakenly think that different rules apply to you. I got some new for you, supermen: when people cut you, you bleed as well, just as the people you cut bleed. You seem to think that you keep asking for favors yet never return. You somehow think your KD is more important than ours. Even now you refuse to do diplo with me:
Game Date February 1 of YR10
Real Date Wed, 19 Oct at 18:58 GMT+00:00
Sender King Vanilla Ice the Skeptic of Collaborate and Listen (CR)
Recipient King Sean Bean the Skeptic of Eddard Stark (Sparta)
Subject Re:CF
You don't get to modify deals after the fact, and you are owed nothing.
There is no proposal in this message, so there is nothing to accept or decline.
> King Sean Bean the Skeptic of Eddard Stark (Sparta) said: > > Yo, given the recently disturbed nature of our relationship, once amicable yet soured beyond a turn of no return as it now seems, I would like to confirm the EOA CF we signed with you at the start of the age, be it on Whatsapp, just so that if there happens to be a disturbance in the balance of the forces that are, I have some written confirmation of said CF, and vice versa.
Please reply "agreed" to this message if you consent to this proposal and thus agree that Sparta (Sparta) and CR/Easter Canceled imop (CR) have been and will continue to be CFed for the duration of this age.
A decline will mean that there is no CF in place. A non-reply within 48 hours will be taken as a "decline" of the proposal as well, which means that we will act as if there is no CF in place.
Is it so hard to just in-game confirm a deal? Or do you insist on fighting us after your war? I'd happily be your partner and make it a top-disband hat-trick in 2 ages.
Funded one conflict one time. 20 million. After the fact said it was wrong and won't do it again. Even apologized. Per usual massive exaggeration by you.
It is one thing to trade acres for gold (which I'm against btw). It is a totally different matter to give a kingdom hundreds of millions to win a crown.
Was definitely not 20M. And the KD you're playing in right now is funding gc all over the place. I'm not judging, just saying how it is. Or do KDs come to you and offer their land for free while the competition is offering gc for it? Bar that logic, I simply know of so many cases where you funded conflicts in the last 2 ages.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pale
So damn ridiculous this BS. Top-KDs have been funding conflicts for as long as I play utopia, and now when CR is on the receiving end of it all the top-whine babies come out and complain? CR itself has funded us so much gc/runes, not just before conflicts but even during conflicts.
Again trading small amounts of gold is one thing and I'm still against it. And I am judging when you throw a fight that far out of balance by funding. Considering all of the gold came from my Province or one other one and I monitored it I can tell you for a fact that it was 20m. Also can be verified by the person who took it. Knock it off with the ad hominem arguments and stay on topic.
Again, CR least of all KDs has ANY grounds on which to complain. They have been the MAIN and MAJOR proponents and beneficiaries of a gc for acres farming system which landed them 3 crowns. That's up to them, and it was a legit way to get their crowns. But at least don't be hypocritical about it and whine when you're on the receiving end of it. This gc farming was all about them not winning, not about TBB winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pale
Had nothing to do with TBB winning and then feeding you to war emeriti?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
We farmed TBB the gc for the b2b after we signed off the age with Em. Before the first comflict TBB stole 15M that we owed them for land. CR QQed so we farmed CR the same on condition theyd be lenient in case of a victory allowing us to farm more land of TBB to war Emeriti. CR didnt and for us that was the (dutch) proverbial final drop that flooded the bucket. CR seems to think were their lapdogs. Well. the dog has grown teeth and might bite.
I think the gc farming is a dumb system, but having observed all the top kds for many ages it seems to best and most efficient way to get land. On top of that it is accepted by all as well so relatively low risk.
2 ages ago Div gave land + gc to Pandas so Pandas had a shot at the crown.
Please let a KD come forth here that has whored in the last 5 ages and hasnt done gc deals.
Im also fine agreeing with the other whoring kds for the next age to make land for gc an offense.
Fair enough then. If you had already signed a deal with emeriti prior to the gc farming then CR should have organised their own gc farming. If the gc farming happened first and you just happened to get caught well..... Try not to get caught next time (:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
CR can and should complain about whatever the **** they want to complain about. Just like KDs that double hostile complain about double hostile, and KDs that used to FW would complain about FWs, and KDs that used gbp to raise banks would complain about gbp to raise banks.
There is no double standard you can call out because no standard exists to begin with. Everything is situational and everybody is a hypocrite.
I don't know how you thought farming out 300mil gc to TBB was going to fly with CR, but boys have to become men eventually I guess...
And @ Consigning the age to Emeriti - literally the biggest pussy move. Its been explained that the reasoning was 'better a lost age then a lost age and war', but if Spartans is so feminine and delicate that its going to fall to shambles over a loss then maybe you should rethink charting.
I did it on purpose to cross CR, I never even hid that from anyone. I even publicly discussed this with Blizz in #tactics when he mentioned 100M and I told hik it was at least twice that. They messed with us for the 4th or 5th time over the last 3 ages. Tired of their nonsense and attitude as if they own the world. If it was TBB warring some other ghetto there would be no QQ.
If you're tired of their attitude you should have just let Emeriti landdrop you and war them yourselves rather then fund TBB for round 2. Not like you have an issue feeding abs acres for free.
Im fine warring them after war if they want to max meter. for now it seems they dont want a cf with us.
All of you got nothing to do...Poop to make your life easy. Let it flow like a meteor showers in the bowl. Have fun guys!!
Did CR started this? OMG...you're on my list kingdom we beat last age. Lol. Dont forget...Im from GREEKS and I poop all over your kingdom
All I can say is stop whining and go get your own GC farm. War is war. All wars are dirty. I still remember last age when Greeks were farmed 5m GC and even that there were noises...like Wtf?
Omg our forum master is here!!! Poopsie i am your fan... seldom read the forum, able to tell me what this thread about?? Whining over a losing war or whining over what others did to them which in fact they did it to others before in the same way?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poopsie
They were Poopsied!
<I'm taking a dump while writing this post>
I think CR are being sour pusses for being dropped from #1 spot to #6 due to their own actions of trying to b2b TBB. Don't go Rambo when you don't have enough bullets.
It has nothing to do with gc for acres deal. This is Spartans betraying the kingdom who basically gave the Spartans their two crowns they have. I will go one step further without CR, Spartans never would have crowned or even been relevant. But hey I am finding this very amusing. :)
So why did CR wave TBB in round 2 unprepared? If I were TBB, I won't eat the wave and let CR take the honour for free. I would of coz ask the enemy's enemy for gc. This is number 1 spot we are talking about!
TBB withdrew to b2b.... Hence y CR got the wwQuote:
Originally Posted by fivefinger
So have you started? All just talk only?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pillz
Getting a war win doesn't mean CR is prepared for conflict round 2 and if you look at the result of conflict no. 1, you will see that TBB actually came out on top with more honour and their Elves remain largely intact. Clearly TBB knew or expected CR will keep coming at them despite withdrawing, so TBB reached out to Spartans in advance for help. My point is, why did CR wave a target unprepared?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitty87
And obviously the CR fan boys who started this post feel that Spartans crossed them. All I'm saying is that CR just went for round 2 unprepared and suffered the consequences of their own fault. I'm not a TBB fanboy and their alleged use of multis for early war wins are despicable.
CR...want to have a fun war with my Poopsielicious Kingdom? Its a ghetto one but can give you a good fight before you wd. LoL!!
You are wrong. CR had HUGE advantage over TBB or how they are named for round 2. Its result from how game work= KD get WW get free credits and you can train much better. So CR waving for round 2 was good strategy move, but game from long is full with BS and its not important how good you can play its important how good you can cheat for avoid Bishop punish you. So taking 300mill gold for free complete change preparations for both KDs. Its kill logical and strategy part from game play.Quote:
Originally Posted by fivefinger
Win, loss don't matter. Chart don't have any value from long. Its not results from good and fair competition but from cheap play.
Im busy being razed myself! And why would I raze into an active war? I respect Zauper & Co enough not to interfere and I have no personal issues with TBB that would motivate me to raze them into war.Quote:
Originally Posted by JusticeLeague
@Palestine
hahahahahahahaha can you stop talking before I start talking please? Seriously, are you even reading your posts, you need to call astron to bail your ass or something. Why in the World would you be doing this right now? Do you have a vested interest to make nice with CR or do you just hate Bart that much? In either case this is one asinine way to do it. Are you seriously going to make me compile a list of KDs BB funded ONLY THIS AGE?
Very amusing situation
300 mill gc > War win bonus
Agreed
Was it an agreed war whereby the warring kds are not supposed to source outside GC in exchange for whatever they want? If not, just suck it and withdraw. Maybe go for round 3? ;)
Btw, was 300mil real? Thats a f**k ton of gc. How did TBB manage to rob that from Spartans since CR waved immediately after EOWCF? I'm not suggesting the exchange of gc didn't happen, but was it in this scale? If so, how on earth could CR not notice 300M gc lying around in their intel scouts? And if they did notice that and still decided to proceed with the wave then I'm pretty speechless.
as uninvolved in all of this I fail to see how pointing out what others did to ****play 3 ages ago can justify what someone did to ****play this age, it is just ****play anyway.
This would be the same as to say it is a valid strategy for BB to razekill say 5 provinces in the top honor kd to win crown, razekills in war or atleast warending cf has happened for this purpose some ages back, and it is not against the rules, just kind of a ****ty way of playing.
Hoping for all top kingdoms engaging in this kind of behavior to have a hard time finding new recruits because no one else wants to play the game like that, and 3 months of farming/farming out does neither sound interesting nor challeging to me.
It's the same freaking people. Also, we have people that are actively doing this chastising Bart for doing it... I'm speechless, now I see why Bart goes on KD disbanding triads, Sparta will not go down without a fight no matter what these elitist people that think they own the server might do. I'll make Bart as strong as he ever was or at least I'll try until we are both razed out of the game if that's what these people have in mind.