can undead give plague from a bounce ? want to KNOW so if just guessing don't reply pls lol
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can undead give plague from a bounce ? want to KNOW so if just guessing don't reply pls lol
Yes, any attack has a risk.
I'm almost certain that ambushes and bounces can not give plague.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Bounce cant plague, dont waste your generals.
Full penetration hit from undead can only give plague :)
ambushes can give plague...stupid mechanic that I don't think makes sense but it happens(happened to us that's why I know)Quote:
Originally Posted by Meep
bounced cannot plague you
not true. you can get plagued when you hit them, when they hit you..as long as it isn't a bounce...on all attack formsQuote:
Originally Posted by ThePuncher
Full penetration meaning an undead successfully breaks you, or you successfully fully penetrate an undead :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
Which would also mean that Conquest can't plague? I thought Bounces and Conquest couldn't plague.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePuncher
Bounces and conquests don't plague. I dunno about ambushes.
Edit: I assume the reason bounces and conq don't plague is cos it's too easy a mechanic to just be silly with, and plague is super powerful. UB enemy t/m prov in war? Easy, just have your uds 1 sol bounce to try plague him. 1 sol and 1 gen causing -15% DME on any province, any time is a mechanical ****show.
Ambushes can plague if you ambush an undead or a non undead who has contracted the plague :)
I was avoiding answering because I wasn't 100%, but since this thread turned into a giant mess of speculation, I guess I'll chime in.
I'm fairly certain I remember the plague being adjusted so that contraction rates were modded by how much you bounced with. So a bounce with 50% needed to break would have 50% less likelihood of spreading the plague. I don't remember that mechanic ever being changed.
That is definitely how it works for adding points on the meter when bouncing. I don't recall ever seeing one of our undead that bounced giving plague to the defender, or any conquests giving plague to the defender. Could be wrong, just never seen it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
from guide: Any time your army meets an infected army from another kingdom, you risk contracting it.
If that hasn't been changed then it does mean you can catch it on every attack from and into an undead and with a lower chance from and into a carrier. So bounces would be included. What we don't know is how high the probability of contraction is. I have not seen plague on bounce I don't think.
It's still a possibility. I don't see any reason why it would exclude bounces, since even a bounce means you met an army.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
Its been confirmed many times over, only successful attacks can spread plague. Wording in guide is incorrect.
When I played undead last age the only time I inflicted someone with plague was during a Trad March. I used conquest alot as it was part of a strategy I was playing around with. I also believe the undead losses were set to normal during conquest hits vs normal hits. I have gotten plague by attacking a province that had been infected. I haven't seen a bounce inflict someone before but it could be similar to hostility meter in the way the probability works.
By the way..remember when Orcs used to carry the plague? Those were the good ol days
They still do.... when they are first infected by a UD and then attacking to spread it to others :P
The guide used to read:
The Plague
The Undead are a unique race of creatures who carry a rare disease known in Utopia simply as The Plague. Each time an Undead province -- or any province infected with the Plague -- successfully attacks or is attacked by another province, there is a small chance they will transmit The Plague to that province. While infected with The Plague, the province will have no population growth. Due to illness, your military will have trouble defending your land and tax collection will be hampered (-15% Military Defense; -15% Tax Collection). The Plague will naturally be cured, on average in 10 to 12 Utopian Days -- at most, no more than 1 Utopian Month. The Nature's Blessing spell also has a chance of curing the plague from all your lands.
Now it reads:
The Undead carry a rare disease known simply as The Plague. Any time your army meets an infected army from another kingdom, you risk contracting it. The Undead are highly contagious, and spread the plague easily, whereas the chances of contracting it from any other race are greatly diminished.
Makes me think that it is possible now.
This^^ This is the first age I have not played Undead in ages. Raze bounces, Conqs, bushes, trads, abducts, plunders, you name it. The chance to flu your opponent increases ratio of offense:defense sent; your chances of dropping the flu on a 1 soldier bounce is close to nil, same attack with 51% is greater, 75% even better, send 104% for best chance. Next question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
_DM <3
Just to muddy the waters a bit, I have seen logs of DavidC saying bounce doesn't give plague. Then again, he also told me human's wpa penalty didn't used to affect self-spells (spoiler alert, it did).
bounces used to be able to give plague, whether they still can, who knows