In middle of 13 day war flipped networth from 1.5 negative to 700k in our favor 24 v 21 at start
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In middle of 13 day war flipped networth from 1.5 negative to 700k in our favor 24 v 21 at start
Thanks for letting everybody know?Quote:
Originally Posted by TimothyLWalker
If you're gonna try sneak a brag in under the pretense of news, at least give us KD numbers! What's wrong with you man?!
its not a brag just letting you know 20 day war brewingand I liked the post from like the 2 ages ago with the war the last weeks with Ghetto Nightmare and its I also thought u cant post kingdom numbers
So the middle is 6 and a half days??Quote:
Originally Posted by TimothyLWalker
Locations ARE allowed now. Just no target sharing like hit DavidC in 1:1 :-pQuote:
Originally Posted by TimothyLWalker
Yeah but if youre trying to tell a story, tell a news story! Give details. Dont just say “look how bad were smashing these dudes” cos then it just looks like bragging. You have an audience!
You'll never catch our 22 day record! (Because there aren't enough days left in the age)Quote:
Originally Posted by TimothyLWalker
Enjoy and good luck in your war.
LOL, you guys posted in the general forums.
Allow me to indulge anybody that cares.
We started war at a -400/500K nw deficit and were approaching 1 million NW lead in our favor when a Ruby dragon finally shows up on like day 8 or 9. I don't even care anymore what day it is. Congrats on your stellar dragon funding.
Kingdom decides apparently after we sent a gold dragon just behind their ruby, and killed their ritual that they were still in it enough to not surrender.
Instead of playing their crap show of a strategy, I ordered a full stop to the war on our side and offered them a mutual peace to get them out of this crap war they couldn't bother accepting defeat in.
It took them what 2-3 days on top of us no longer strategizing to match our NW. 2-3 days guys.....this kingdom is trash. So this trash kingdom that says they flipped networth in the middle of the war, is not only lying, but it took everything I just said to make it happen.
TRASH.
They can enjoy their loss and the credibility that goes along with it.
I'm sure there is still a few kingdoms out there who never surrender and always chose the forced surrender when they are losing a war, most of them are pretty bad thougth since few good players will chose to stay there for long, so any decent kingdom can get that win eventually.
Nw is not always a good indicator of who win or loses, if you mannaged to chain none of the opponents t/m's but all of their attackers you are still in a bad position if your own t/m's has been obliterated.
I've always feelt that in a warring kingdom if you can win whithout taking land overall, or better still pull a win while being down acres that is a bigger and better achievement to winning up thousands of acres. Most warring kingdoms starts to lose when they get to big and are pushed towards opponents out of their league.
Mutual peace is for losers... and you got alot of trash talkin goin on...Quote:
Originally Posted by calamity
Stopped strategizing? LOL Don't make ma laugh.
You guys started waving us. 24 man kd waving us 21 man kd at the start, so like every good KD who has balls we gave you all a full round of ops and all that. Now if you get our meaning, you would have backed off or sent/asked for a cf.
But no, you guys decided to clinch an easy war against a 3 man lesser kd and hit us more. With the button on hand, why not? We declared war on you. Note that one new province joined in in the middle of war, so for the sake of your pride I'll say its 24 vs 22.
You had all the econ and TM advantage, good strategy in the beginning I'd say. What I do not understand is since when does NW mean anything in war? Don't give me that crap that you "stopped strategizing" half way in war coz we "don't know when to quit". Its day 5 or so in the war when we flipped the NW. Also since when does tanking a dragon mean we should lose? You sent a GOLD DRAGON to a dwarf core of course we are going to tank it.
Your steward approached me about the Mutual peace thingy, saying you ordered a full stop to fighting to negotiate an MP, yeah well you should have negotiated it WHILE fighting. You stopped hits on your own accord without telling us beforehand so what makes you think I in any sane mind will order my guys to stop hitting? "oh they seem to be stopping hits we should stop hits too?"
Later correspondence from you are nothing more than trash talk, so don't blame my guys for bringing this up here. I'm gonna put up what you sent me.
Mail 1:
Do this kingdom a favor next age and avoid us. I mean this as honest as humanly possible, CF us wherever you are. While I've been silent and haven't given much of a crap since day what 8/9 of this war, I do however don't give a **** to do it all over again with another ****ty kingdom each age going forward. No strategy takes 10-14 days to enact, especially after I trim off NW for a ruby I didn't have to slay. That's before your NW gap was approaching 1.5 million from the start of war. I mean kudos on your downward spiral!
I sent the MP, as that's your only real option out of this, as far as I'm concerned, until end of age where we will both be served a loss anyways. So congrats on your ****ty strategy and your ****ty kingdom, you guys earn a participation trophy, but I won't play your inept game.
Personally, I feel sad for whoever you guys really are. I've played since Age 2, and I've honestly never met a kingdom that is this bad at knowing when they are beaten, and I certainly won't play your longevity bull**** game.
Mail 2:
It's called pity.
You have my pity.
The victory was at hour 48/72/96, etc. etc,
I offered mutual peace to end the age for the both of us.
Enjoy your loss chief.
> King Python the Sorcerer of Anti LGBT Python (2:3) said: > > Say all you want. 24 vs 21 and you guys cant even get a clear victory.
Worse still is you blame it on "strategy"?
The clear winner is us yet you resort to offering MUTUAL PEACE?
Have some honor dude
Mail 3:
Ah, you are still talking. BTW, I haven't done anything since day 9 of this war. Nono, you've totally won a war I gave up on because you ****ers are retarded.
Enjoy your loss chief.
> King Python the Sorcerer of Anti LGBT Python (2:3) said: > > Pity you then. > > You obviously do not understand the meaning of accepting defeat and moving on. Get used yo sitting on your ivory throne much? Cant hold out for a long war? Well dont wave a kd 3 man lesser than you and expect a short war then fool
Mail 4:
Remember the name and avoid it. I not only won't war you, but I'll waste your time longer than you've wasted mine.
I don't like fighting ****ty kingdoms and you not only fit that bill, you roll around in it like a dog.
Trash kingdom is trash, enjoy your loss, Captain Chief.
> King Python the Sorcerer of Anti LGBT Python (2:3) said: > > Whatever man. > > Dont worry. We see you next age. We will be coming for you. > > Dont blame us for ruining your fun. The wd button is right there in case you strawberries cannot take the commitment required for war and know when to exit gracefully. >
SO. Let me summarize. You rage quit because you cannpt get us to WD, and because you sent a MP so we must accept it? You "stopped caring and strategizing" because you can't find a way to win this? Who is the sore loser now? Nobody backs down form a war they can win.
For your sake I'm gonna end it here. Trash talk me again and I will post out our war logs and then others can judge.
Also yeah keep saying how trashy we are. I've reported your language in the mail. Start acting like an adult and not trump ok
You are **** and will always be ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ardelus
I'm sorry you suck as an adult and even worse as a warring kingdom.
And pity isn't a rage quit. It's me telling you that you are bad at this game.
Jesus. That went nasty.
Calm down, both of you. I don't have a horse in this race (full disclosure, I won absolutely nothing in Aintree today and I'm very disappointed. I normally get something by sheer luck) but there are two very important points that I'm sure you both know well but aren't seeing because the red mist has descended;
1) Nobody respects a public forum fight. Nobody wins a public forum fight. Emotions run high and things get said that nobody benefits from. All that comes from it is drama, distraction and attrition, and both kingdoms end up looking like children fighting in the playground.
2) Nobody benefits from a grudge. It's a never-ending escalation of he said-she said that just gets worse and worse. You'll both end up just trying to out-stubborn the other. People who aren't as dedicated to the grudge will get bored, tired or angry, and they'll leave. That doesn't benefit either kingdom.
War is a simple construct in Utopia: Fight until someone doesn't want to fight anymore (because MP isn't really a thing anymore). Settle your arguments from the War Room, not the forums. Be civil to each other. You're both adults, please act like it in everything you do. Even in a silly online text game. I promise that the alternative only brings misery.
Good luck to both of you and your kingdoms.
Who are these ghettos?
You really want to hang your reputation on
"We were winning so hard that we stopped playing!"
Good Lord people
I don't think I've seen that angle on the forum before. I'm perplexed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Yeah calamity calm down. Not my fault that you guys run out of steam. Don't poke someone you don't have the balls to fight tk the death.
Lots of guys from your side are solid, pity you are such a jerk.
Its the interweb. Who is not a jerk 24/7?
Ahh, Calamity don't rage quit. Join me...
We had a kingdom try that with us last age. They were ahead on acres for a bit while we chained down and massacred their DEs. About a week into the war, I message their monarch to see if they were ready to WD soon (we we massively ahead of them at this point in NW, land, military, ect)Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
his reply?
Nah, there's only a few weeks left in the age (2-3 at that point) and they had already won the war (news to us!) and since we ruined their age (massacres on their mystics), they were going to stick it out, but we were free to withdraw at any point..
a few days later, After they failed a major push to break one of our rogues that had gone UB (lots of NM and NS, most of which failed) they withdrew. I am still not 100% sure if they had really given up, or if he was trying to play me so we'd withdraw just to end the war.
Moral: Most warring kingdoms won't withdraw from a war they have won, and won't give up just because they've won. You give up when it's obvious you've lost.
Advanced manoeuvre, wouldn't expect you to get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avenger
Calamity's KD withdrew.
We warred the way we did for the past 25 wins in a row. It was a lot of fun trying for the 50% but definitely tough in the beginning with an inactive 21vs 24. Was also pretty amused by their monarch calling us ghetto trash and educating us about the warring tier when we won it back to back previously =p.
Oh snapQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Well said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calya
=P You call that a long war?
This was a long war!
** Kingdom news report **
For the time from May 1 of YR4 till July 17 of YR10 - 1073 hours
[ http://home-world.org/utopia/formatter/ - Seraphim online formatter ]
** Summary **
Total attacks made: 1,009 (29,011 acres)
-- Traditional march: 674 (25,727 acres)
-- Ambush: 43 (1,421 acres)
-- Conquest: 38 (1,863 acres)
-- Raze: 73 (0 acres)
-- Massacre: 136 (230,984 population)
-- Abduct: 17
-- Failed: 28 (2.8% failure)
-- Uniques: 438
Total attacks suffered: 851 (21,463 acres)
-- Traditional march: 655 (20,528 acres)
-- Ambush: 44 (935 acres)
-- Raze: 52 (0 acres)
-- Massacre: 35 (7,224 population)
-- Plunder: 19
-- Abduct: 7
-- Failed: 39 (4.6% failure)
-- Uniques: 364
** The kingdom of 4:12 **
(super Ghetto, we were 5 Faeries+1 dark elf (who reset as a warrior) + an avian tactician who sucked up all our aid, then intra-KD attacked us in the middle of the war before defecting to the other side vs. 14 provinces). But, if we're just talking about pure length of war =P 44.5 days here!
And yes, we had to win like so:
July 17 of YR10 The Lords of Utopia have forced Building Provs - One at a time (X:XX) to withdraw from war to spare further suffering. Our people rejoice at this victory!
And we have proven Palem's theory true once again, the side with more faeries always wins, even if all you have are 5 faeries fighting 2 v. 1., and getting betrayed by your own attackers.
That's not a knife