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I was trying to find some updated info about this subject, but couldn't find it, so I'm asking here.
What's the max duration of eowcf now? 72 or 96h? In the revised changes it was mentioned it was reduced to 72h, but there is no mention of it in the final changes, only the increase in pop growth. So, which is it? My kd just entered eowcf so we'd like to know so we can plan things. Thanks in advance!
It stayed 96
I feel the community is getting trolled by this...this is like the 10th person ive seen ask about it..
It is fairly confusing considering 72h was ahead in the poll.
we had this dicussion like 4-5 ages ago where 72hrs is too quick for kingdoms especially those who are stuck with back 2 back hostiles
What makes it too quick? KDs were historically dumped out without any protection whatsoever and managed to get an equal or greater number of wars than the average KD does now. Most of us only have two arms and lack the capacity to make use of all these damn crutches. If you need a break just take an age off. Gameplay doesn't need to be disrupted with incremental vacations.
Will be stuck in war for a bit longer due to this, OOP war did not quite be as god as it should due to gb protection bloking most of the meaningfull coordinations. Hats of to our opponents for staying in this with 1 province reset and practically 2, soon 3 beeing useless about now, but don't see it gooing on for another week. as we are looking at a gap cloing in on 1.5k acres and performing better actvity wise.
Well long wars are most fun when winning after all, and probably getting quite good uniques as Avian.
Anyone knows how long the longest continurous war compared to age lenght was?
How does an extra 24hrs classify an EoWCF into an extended stay-cation?
Originally it was requested to extend it from 72hrs to 96hrs about 3-4 ages ago because FORTIFIED was removed after years where kingdoms were accustomed the norms of 72hrs + 24hrs.
Just a bit overreaction unless the idea is to speed up the meta-game
It's an additional 24 hours on top of the additional 72 hours.
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Originally Posted by Madchess
At least more than 30 days, being I was in a 3.5 week war before.
with chains beeing less efficient this age we could easily go with 72 hours, aid up the downed ones since it won't be manny unless you continue way past the point where you lost the war, we are likely going to transit into labs then armouries when we get to end of war cf, gap is like 10% nw and 2k acres now so it can't be to long.
Any chance your in a kd full of av wh and 2 dorf tacts?
not really, but we did win after 7 days and are just chilling until it is time to train, getting labs for 2 days is nice and all, but hardly the purpose of EoW cf. Could have done with 2 days if maintaning specs armies and transitting into armouries right away since we had credits. Without credits maybe it would be fine after 2½ days. None of ours was below 300 acres when they surrendered, no one was less than 500 with the extra acres after the surrender. Except for two of theirs they could get ready again just as fast, and aid exist for a reason.
Yall do realize you can drop war at any point during the CF period. No one is forcing ANYONE to stay in it for 96 hours. If you need it, take it.. Otherwise, drop it and move on. The choice is yours.
well they still decided to many was not ready in my kingdom even after 96 hours, I eyeballed where I wanted to be and came out 500k gc ahead since I was allowed to keep laboratories + only was 1 tic of training from landing exactly where I wanted with my miltary. KD got waved out of t10 for now, but I believe our leadership was more qualified than me to make the call on whether or not we could go for war right away at that size/rank.
Maybe do what we did for protection.
Give enough bonuses to reduce the downtime.
+300% income
+200% draft rate
+2000% wizard generation
Gain free credits.
24h eowcf
24hrs EoWCF is not possible...tho you are right that the bonuses need to be high enough to cut an extra day realistically
then again the 96hr Eowcf is not forced .... a kd can PLAN to exit in 3 days rather than 4 if they really wanted to.
Don't remove a day for all other KDs who can use it effectively.
- all negative spells are removed
- all dragons are removed
- Free, instant training
- Free, instant raze/build
- can train wizards for free instantly
- small provinces can explore up to the average acre for free instantly
- big provinces can get rid of acres to an average for free instantly
- population fills up instantly
- can train soldiers from peasants instantly for free
- can cast ritual up to 80 casts for free
- no income generated during EOWCF
- no runes generated and decay during EOWCF
- no food generated, decay and consumed during EOWCF
- no books and scientists generated during EOWCF
- unlimited EOWCF time
EOWCF is just busywork to get your province back up so why not just cut down all the bs and get on with it? You can stay in EOWCF forever to chill, but you're not generating anything. No science gives KDs incentive to get out of EOWCF quickly and get back into the fray.
So you want people to log in and just train?Quote:
Originally Posted by elmoheadbutt
There needs to be some skill to learn/teach how to use buildings and contruction timings effectively.
There are less wars right now because kingdoms feel less adequate vs typical aggressive kingdom...call it cowardice if you want but shorting eowcf will give other KDs the chance to use the excuse.
So a KD can hide in eowcf forever? No ty. Also wizz pump - there was an age with double wizz pump during eowcf and it was phun age for mystics...Quote:
Originally Posted by elmoheadbutt
well everyone seems to have some gold atleast when exitting eow cf and everyone seems to be aware when everyone else is exitting eow cf also and steal and plunder those exitting. Munkbot is pretty much like spyware in that regard. Would like to simply reduce eow cf slightly, or maybe go away from gains of credits and acres and go back to simply winning a portion of the opponent honor since it require little enough skill to get back in fighting condition within 4 days even when you lose a war and less when you win one, add more bonuses and it will take even less skills to get ready.
It is a good thing that you can go from one war to the other if dedicated enough, I do not se a reason however to make it less challeging to get ready, the few that pump to extream degree can spend extra time doing that if they want.
Yes they can, but they can't grow so what's the point?Quote:
So a KD can hide in eowcf forever?
The point of the credits is for players to quickly convert to EOWCF builds instead of the mad scrambling for gc that used to happen straight after WD. Also, if you're dedicated enough, you can go into your next war with some of those credits.Quote:
Would like to simply reduce eow cf slightly, or maybe go away from gains of credits and acres and go back to simply winning a portion of the opponent honor since it require little enough skill to get back in fighting condition within 4 days even when you lose a war and less when you win one, add more bonuses and it will take even less skills to get ready.
You don't need eowcf to learn how to optimize. Historically it was done oow (and still is in top cases).Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJuan
Which part of my suggestion makes you think that you won't come out of EOWCF not fully pumped?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJuan
Which part of "Unlimited EOWCF time" equates to shorter EOWCF time?