Age 81 race/personality suggestions

Changelog:
Toned down human income and merchant sci bonus
Changed DE elite to offensive
Gave avian elite 1 def

Made bocan elite offensive as well

Halfling elite -> 6/5 and more expensive
Reduced DE wiz conversion rate
Slight nerf to warrior sci bonus
War hero 5% ME -> +1 ospec

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Races
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Dark Elf
+20% Spell Damage
25% of peasants gained on TMs are converted to wizards

+20% enemy sabotage damage

8/3 elite 9.5nw 950gc
Spellbook: GP

Bocan
+20% sabotage damage
Can train thieves with credits
+20% spec credits

-10% income

7/3 elite 8.5nw 850gc
Spellbook: BL

Elf
+15% WPA
+30% rune production
+1 dspec

+20% wages

7/4 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: MF, GP


Halfling
+15% TPA
+10% population
-50% thief cost
2/2 soldiers

-1 ospec

6/5 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: MA, Invis, Aggression

Human
+20% income
+20% spec and building credits from attacks
+15% economy science

+20% enemy spell damage

8/4 elite 10nw 1000gc
Spellbook: IA, QF, Rev

Orc
+15% Battle gains
+10% enemy casualties
Free draft

-25% arcane arts science effectiveness

8/2 elite 9nw 950gc
Spellbook: Aggression, BL (reverts to its previous values)

Avian
-25% attack time
+35% birth rate
-35% military training time
+5% ME

cannot use stables or horses

8/1 elite 8nw 850gc
Spellbook: TW

Dwarf
+20% BE
-50% construction time
Free construction

+75% food needed
Cannot accelerate construction

7/5 elite 10nw 1000gc
Spellbook: RM, CS, TW

Faery
+25% self spell duration
can cast spells on mates
self spells cost 2 mana

-1 general

4/8 elite 10.5nw 1100gc
Spellbook: MA, SI

Undead
-25% casualties
no food needed
spreads and is immune to plague
+1 horses

+15% attack time

10/3 elite 10.5nw 1100gc
Spellbook: AD

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Personalities
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Mystic
+150% guild land effect
+50% channeling science
+1 mana/tick

Spellbook: MS, Chastity, Blizzard, Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 800 wiz

Rogue
+50% TD land effect
+50% guild land effect
+50% crime science
+1 stealth/tick
Access to rogue thief ops

Spellbook: Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 800 thieves

Heretic
+75% guild land effect
wiz don't die on failed spells
-75% losses on failed thief ops
+30% channeling, crime, and cunning sci

Spellbook: NM, FG, Amnesia, Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 400 wiz, 400 thieves

Paladin
-25% casualties
Immune to plague
+30% strategy and shielding sci

Spellbook: GP, DS, Wrathful Smite, IS, Pitfalls
Starts with: 800 solds and creds

Tactician
-15% attack time
+50% siege sci

Spellbook: War Spoils
Sarts with: 800 solds and credits

Merchant
Immune to income penalties
+25% gains on robs and plunders
-25% losses on enemy robs and plunders
+25% income, production, and thievery sci
-25% TB from aid, both incoming and outgoing

Spellbook: ToG, Gluttony
Starts with: 400 thieves, 400 solds and creds

Warrior
+10% OME
+20% tactics sci
-25% casualties on conquest attacks
improved conquest range

Spellbook: fanat
Starts with: 800 solds and creds

War Hero
+1 ospec
Convert specs to elites
Accurate intel
+30% dragon slaying strength
+30% valor and heroism sci

Spellbook: Hero's inspiration (PI renamed)
Starts with: 800 elites

peasant to wizard conversion is WAY too powerful. 40% is ridiculous, they could gain .5 WPA in a single hit. 5% would be more reasonable.


+15% attack time on undead is a bad idea. Take that away and give them the -15% science effect again. The other nerfs look good for them.

Just two things I noticed right off, I didn't go through the whole list in detail.

I posted some of these on the Discord server, but I figured this may be a better spot for them.


Global

All specs dropped to 5pts
Rename war horses to something different for each race (cosmetic but fun)
Self spells on others should be guild based not wpa
Consider reducing total amount of provs per kd over time (not sure how this would be achieved, but kds seem too large now)


Races

Orcs
Convert specialists into elites with successful trads
+20% enemy casualties when attacking and defending.
Free draft
+25% draft speed
Elite: 9/3
Racial spells: Bloodlust, Aggression

Avians
Cannot be ambushed
-20% attack time
+20% birth rate
+10% max pop
Elite: 7/2
Racial spells: Fanaticism, Clear Sight

Elves
Guilds and TGs are combined into one building
+1 attack ospec (6/0)
-25% rune costs
-50% military wages
Elite: 5/5
Racial spells: Mage's Fury, Quick Feet

Halflings
Trad marches also plunder gc (half strength of regular plunder)
Mercenaries and prisoners are twice as strong and cost half as much (10/0)
+25% thievery effectiveness
Thieves and elites can be trained by spec credits
Elite: 3/6
Racial spells: Town Watch, Reflect Magic

Dwarves
Free building costs, cannot speed build
+10% defensive military effectiveness
+25% building effectiveness
+20% resistance to offensive spells (20% flat failure rate)
Elite: 4/6
Racial Spells: Patriotism, Revelation

Humans
All incoming thief ops are only 50% effective
+20% income, rune, and food generation
+1 dspec (0/6)
+1 attack from war horses
Elite: 5/5
Racial Spells: Tree of Gold, Crystal Ball*
*Crystal Ball: Combination of SoT and SoM

Faeries
Access to all non-racial spells (except paladin spellbook)
Duration spells last 25% longer (both buffs and debuffs)
+25% sabotage dmg
+25% spell dmg
Elite: 2/8
Racial Spells: Paradise, Landlust

Undead
No food needed
No specs, soldiers are 4/4
-50% ritual rune cost
+25% towers effectiveness
Elite: 4/7
Racial Spells: Nightmares, Plague*
*Plague: -10% military effectiveness, -10% tpa and wpa, no longer spreads on attacks, 10% chance to spread via aid packets, cannot be cleared by NB


Personalities

Paladin (Eliminate Cleric)
-25% casualties when attacking and defending
May cast self spells on others
Access to paladin specific spells
+50% science effectiveness (valor)
+1000 starting soldiers
Spellbook: All current paladin spells

War Hero (Eliminate Warrior)
Dragon immunity
+25% spec and building credits
+15% offensive military effectiveness
+50% science effectiveness (heroism)
+500 starting elites
Spellbook: War Spoils, Inspire Army

Tactician
Access to conquest regardless of size
Accurate espionage
+15% greater gains vs targets with higher NW
+50% science effectiveness (siege)
+500 starting spec credits
Spellbook: Pitfalls, Explosions

Rogue (Eliminate Heretic)
+1% stealth per tick
50% thief losses
Access to rogue specific ops
+50% science effectiveness (crime)
+500 starting thieves
Spellbook: Gluttony, Chastity

Mystic
+1% mana per tick
Wizards do not die on casts
+100% guild effectiveness
+50% science effectiveness (channeling)
+500 starting wizards
Spellbook: Meteor Showers, Blizzard

Scholar
+25% science generation
-25% exploration costs (gc and soldiers)
Aid sent to others only impacts TB half as much
+50% science effectiveness (strategy)
+1 starting scientist
Spellbook: Greater Protection, Expose Thieves

@LuckySports that's kind of the point to make it strong for DE. I tuned it down some, but .5wpa per hit doesn't seem crazy to me when you think that a typical a/m hybrid will have 4-5wpa and a typical in-range hit gives about 12% land. 0.5wpa gained would let them evenly sustain that if they made in-range hits.

Why move accurate intel from tactician? It seems like tactician thing and lives the personality quite vanilla and lackluster.

Mainly because my goal was to push WH into more of an "attacker support" role with dragonslaying and accurate intel, and have tact focused on speed and gains. I agree it feels vanilla though and perhaps a bit underpowered. Are there other things that you can think of that would slot well into that? I'm fine with keeping accurate intel there but I did kind of want to hone WH identity more with it.

Every time I consider something, it’s on another personality. WH and Wa are both very beefy.

My suggestions were gonna be bring PFs to the spell list because strategist. Or increased spec credits, but not sure how that balances with Orcs already having it. Um, Heroism was another idea but on WH. I wondered how broken aiding soldiers without imposing TB changes would be. Also, merchant is exploring this idea already.

Just seems many of the ideas are already on the other personalities and this would need something new. Maybe introduce those stable buffs some people have mentioned. i.e. science effects horses too, or a bonus separate from science that increases horse production and capacity. A super dead skill for avian but might deter Avian/Tact combos. (?)

Hands feel tied to make Tact less vanilla with others having so many. Reduced attack time is fairly strong on its own though.

I just saw on Discord someone pointed out +50% for siege science. I may be able to for go the vanilla-ness due to strong perks.

Here's an alternate proposal for these with 5pt specs and 1pt horses!

General:

specs -> 5pt
ospec -> 1nw / strength
dspec -> 1.2nw / strength
horse -> 1 strength, 0.4nw
stables -> 100 capacity, 3 horses / tick (to make up for horses being a lot weaker)
BL -> 15% OME, 15% enemy casualties when attacking, 15% own casualties

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Races
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Dark Elf
+20% Spell Damage
25% of peasants gained on TMs are converted to wizards

+20% enemy sabotage damage

7/3 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: GP

Bocan
+20% sabotage damage
Can train thieves with credits
+20% spec credits

-10% income

6/3 elite 8.5nw 850gc
Spellbook: BL

Elf
+20% WPA
+25% rune production
+1 dspec

+20% wages

6/4 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: MF, GP


Halfling
+20% TPA
+15% population
-50% thief cost
2/2 soldiers

-1 ospec

5/4 elite 8nw 600gc
Spellbook: MA, Invis, Aggression

Human
+20% income
+20% spec and building credits from attacks
+15% economy science

+20% enemy spell damage

7/4 elite 10nw 1000gc
Spellbook: IA, QF, Rev

Orc
+10% Battle gains
+10% enemy casualties
Free draft

-25% arcane arts science effectiveness

7/2 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: Aggression, BL

Avian
-25% attack time
+35% birth rate
-35% military training time

cannot use stables or horses

7/1 elite 8nw 850gc
Spellbook: TW

Dwarf
+20% BE
-50% construction time
Free construction

+75% food needed
Cannot accelerate construction

6/5 elite 10nw 1000gc
Spellbook: RM, CS, TW

Faery
+25% self spell duration
can cast spells on mates
self spells cost 2 mana

-1 general

4/7 elite 10.5nw 1100gc
Spellbook: MA, SI

Undead
-25% casualties
no food needed
spreads and is immune to plague

+10% attack time

9/2 elite 10.5nw 1100gc
Spellbook: AD

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Personalities
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Mystic
+150% guild land effect
+50% channeling science
+1 mana/tick

Spellbook: MS, Chastity, Blizzard, Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 800 wiz

Rogue
+50% TD land effect
+50% guild land effect
+50% crime science
+1 stealth/tick
Access to rogue thief ops

Spellbook: Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 800 thieves

Heretic
+75% guild land effect
wiz don't die on failed spells
-75% losses on failed thief ops
+30% channeling, crime, and cunning sci

Spellbook: NM, FG, Amnesia, Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 400 wiz, 400 thieves

Paladin
-25% casualties
Immune to plague
+30% strategy and shielding sci

Spellbook: GP, DS, Wrathful Smite, IS, Pitfalls
Starts with: 800 solds and creds

Tactician
-15% attack time
+50% siege sci
accurate intel

Spellbook: War Spoils
Sarts with: 800 solds and credits

Merchant
Immune to income penalties
+25% gains on robs and plunders
-25% losses on enemy robs and plunders
+25% income, production, and thievery sci
-25% TB from aid, both incoming and outgoing

Spellbook: ToG, Gluttony
Starts with: 400 thieves, 400 solds and creds

Warrior
+10% OME
+30% tactics sci
-25% casualties on conquest attacks
improved conquest range

Spellbook: fanat
Starts with: 800 solds and creds

War Hero
+1 ospec
Convert specs to elites
+30% dragon slaying strength
+30% valor and heroism sci

Spellbook: Hero's inspiration (PI renamed)
Starts with: 800 elites

Amras, I really do like most of your suggestions. However, I am one of those who feel tact vs wh is a no brainer. Personally if these went live I think we would see WH chosen as much for attacker next age as we saw UD this age. The siege bonus is excellent, but science really only starts to kick ass mid-late game. Early game that bonus is close to pointless imo, and UTO is all about starting fast. At the very least they need accurate intel back, even then WH is going to be the main choice for attackers I think.

Also, I mentioned it in discord but would like to toss it in here as well and get your opinion. New mechanic HATRED. It provides +5% ome & dme vs any single race you choose (cannot choose your own race. I.E, UD cannot hate UD). One thing this does is for example if you think UD are op going into an age, you could choose hatred for UD and help balance things out.

It gives the player a little more flexibility to choose a race they might be fond of but would opt to not play (w/o HATRED) because its a poor choice for whatever reason.

Oni, hatred idea is interesting, but difficult to implement. And a leadership nightmare trying to keep track of who has hatred toward what when wave planning. In general intel and planning get very difficult with an idea like that.

As promised in discord, here’s a proposal that puts casting on mates back on Paladin and reworks some stuff with that in mind. Still 5pt specs and 1pt horses in this one!

General:

specs -> 5pt
ospec -> 1nw / strength
dspec -> 1.2nw / strength
horse -> 1 strength, 0.4nw
stables -> 100 capacity, 3 horses / tick (to make up for horses being a lot weaker)
BL -> last age numbers

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Races
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Dark Elf
+20% Spell Damage
30% of peasants gained on TMs are converted to wizards

+20% enemy sabotage damage

7/3 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: GP

Bocan
+20% sabotage damage
Can train thieves with credits
+30% spec credits
+1 ospec

-10% income

3/6 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: fanat

Elf
+30% WPA
+30% rune production
+1 dspec

+20% wages

6/4 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: GP


Halfling
+30% TPA
+15% population
-50% thief cost
2/2 soldiers

-1 ospec

5/4 elite 8nw 600gc
Spellbook: MA, Aggression

Human
+20% income
+20% spec and building credits from attacks

+20% enemy spell damage

7/4 elite 10nw 1000gc
Spellbook: QF, Rev, SI, IA

Orc
+15% Battle gains
+15% enemy casualties
Free draft

-25% arcane arts science effectiveness

8/2 elite 9.5 950gc
Spellbook: Aggression

Avian
-25% attack time
+30% birth rate
-25% military training time

cannot use stables or horses

7/2 elite 8nw 850gc
Spellbook: TW

Dwarf
+20% BE
-50% construction time
Free construction

+75% food needed
Cannot accelerate construction

6/5 elite 10nw 1000gc
Spellbook: MA, IA, TW

Faery
+25% self spell duration
self spells cost 2 mana
+25% arcane arts sci
All racial spells

-1 general

4/6 elite 10nw 1000gc
Spellbook: all racial spells

Undead
-35% casualties
no food needed
spreads and is immune to plague

9/2 elite 10.5nw 1100gc
Spellbook: AD

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Personalities
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Mystic
+150% guild land effect
+50% channeling science
+1 mana/tick

Spellbook: MF, MS, Chastity, Blizzard, Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 800 wiz

Rogue
+50% TD land effect
+50% guild land effect
+50% crime science
+1 stealth/tick
Access to rogue thief ops

Spellbook: Invis, Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 800 thieves

Heretic
+75% guild land effect
wiz don't die on failed spells
-75% losses on failed thief ops
+30% channeling, crime, and cunning sci

Spellbook: NM, FG, Amnesia, Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 400 wiz, 400 thieves

Paladin
-25% casualties
Immune to plague
+75% guild land effect
Can cast spells on mates

Spellbook: DS, Wrathful Smite, IS, Pitfalls
Starts with: 400 solds and creds, 400 wiz

Tactician
-15% attack time
+40% siege sci
accurate intel

Spellbook: War Spoils, CS
Sarts with: 800 solds and credits

Merchant
Immune to income penalties
+25% gains on robs and plunders
-25% losses on enemy robs and plunders
+25% income, production, and thievery sci
-25% TB from aid, both incoming and outgoing

Spellbook: ToG, Gluttony, RM
Starts with: 400 thieves, 400 solds and creds

Warrior
+10% OME
+20% tactics sci
-25% casualties on conquest attacks
improved conquest range

Spellbook: BL
Starts with: 800 solds and creds

War Hero
+1 ospec
Convert specs to elites
+30% dragon slaying strength
+30% valor and heroism sci

Spellbook: Hero's inspiration (PI renamed)
Starts with: 800 elites

Would be nice if Merchant had increased WT effectiveness and some protection from Fool's Gold or just immunity to Fool's Gold.

I'd like to have Dwarf removed for an age and move over their free building construction to Avian. Remove the faster military training + ME on avian, reduce faster attack and birth rates to 20%. No faster build time, but let them use builder's boon.

Paladins toss in +20% spell duration on beneficial spells cast on KD mates and +35% WPA when casting beneficial spells on KD mates.

Rogues, maybe add a random chance to do 1 random rogue op (steal gold, steal runes, steal food or NS) when successfully attacking a target since Rogues haven't changed much in forever.

I'd like to see Orcs get something passive like "Horses cannot be stolen (because they are big ugly beasts, not horses)" and maybe Stables having 10%-20% more capacity.

If you want to add something unique to Elves, maybe make elites count as 0.1 or 0.2 wizards each for WPA to encourage A/M more. Not sure if that was done in a previous age, but would be nice.

Here’s a version with 10pt specs and support spells as their own concept as was discussed on discord.

General:

Solds -> 2/2, aggression -> +2/-2
specs -> 10pt
ospec -> 0.5nw / strength
dspec -> 0.6nw / strength
horse -> 2 strength, 0.4nw / strength
stables -> 100 capacity, 3 horses / tick (to make up for horses being a lot weaker comparatively)
BL -> last age numbers
Dragon hp +66% to account for raw army strength bump

New concept: support spells. The spells that can be cast on mates by those with such ability.
Support spells: MP, GP, MSh, DS, IA, L+P, fanat, Wrathful Smite, Rev, SI, TW, Aggression (open to revision!)

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Races
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Dark Elf
+20% Spell Damage
30% of peasants gained on TMs are converted to wizards

+20% enemy sabotage damage

14/6 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: GP, fanat

Bocan
+20% sabotage damage
Can train thieves with credits
+30% spec credits
+2ospec

-10% income

7/12 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: BL

Elf
+30% WPA
+30% rune production
+1 dspec

+20% wages

12/8 elite 9nw 900gc
Spellbook: GP


Halfling
+30% TPA
+15% population
-50% thief cost
3/3 soldiers

-2 ospec

10/8 elite 8nw 600gc
Spellbook: MA, Aggression

Human
+20% income
+20% spec and building credits from attacks

+20% enemy spell damage

14/7 elite 10nw 1000gc
Spellbook: QF, Rev, SI, IA

Orc
+15% Battle gains
+15% enemy casualties
Free draft

-25% arcane arts science effectiveness

15/4 elite 9.5 950gc
Spellbook: Aggression, BL

Avian
-25% attack time
+30% birth rate
-25% military training time

cannot use stables or horses

13/5 elite 8nw 850gc
Spellbook: TW

Dwarf
+20% BE
-50% construction time
Free construction

+75% food needed
Cannot accelerate construction

12/9 elite 10nw 1000gc
Spellbook: MA, IA, TW

Faery
+25% self spell duration
self spells cost 2 mana
+25% arcane arts sci
All racial spells

-1 general

8/13 elite 10nw 1000gc
Spellbook: all racial spells

Undead
-35% casualties
no food needed
spreads and is immune to plague
+1 horse strength

+10% attack time

18/5 elite 10.5nw 1100gc
Spellbook: AD

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Personalities
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Mystic
+150% guild land effect
+50% channeling science
+1 mana/tick

Spellbook: MF, MS, Chastity, Blizzard, Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 800 wiz

Rogue
+50% TD land effect
+50% guild land effect
+50% crime science
+1 stealth/tick
Access to rogue thief ops

Spellbook: Invis, Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 800 thieves

Heretic
+75% guild land effect
wiz don't die on failed spells
-75% losses on failed thief ops
+35% channeling, crime, and cunning sci

Spellbook: NM, FG, Amnesia, Rev, Paradise
Starts with: 400 wiz, 400 thieves

Paladin
-25% casualties
Immune to plague
+75% guild land effect
Can cast spells on mates

Spellbook: DS, Wrathful Smite, IS, Pitfalls
Starts with: 400 solds and creds, 400 wiz

Tactician
-15% attack time
+40% siege sci
accurate intel

Spellbook: War Spoils, CS
Sarts with: 800 solds and credits

Merchant
Immune to income penalties
+25% gains on robs and plunders
-25% losses on enemy robs and plunders
+25% income, production, and thievery sci
-25% TB from aid, both incoming and outgoing

Spellbook: ToG, Gluttony, RM
Starts with: 400 thieves, 400 solds and creds

Warrior
+10% OME
+30% tactics sci
-25% casualties on conquest attacks
improved conquest range

Spellbook: Fanat
Starts with: 800 solds and creds

War Hero
+2 ospec
Convert specs to elites
+30% dragon slaying strength
+30% valor and heroism sci

Spellbook: Hero's inspiration (PI renamed)
Starts with: 800 elites

Paladins should have +20% selfie duration to encourage the gameplay. Also, success rate should be based on guild % and not WPA so that paladins can cast on t/ms.

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Originally Posted by elmoheadbutt

Paladins should have +20% selfie duration to encourage the gameplay. Also, success rate should be based on guild % and not WPA so that paladins can cast on t/ms.

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I've seen this suggested before and don't disagree.

I also do not care for the bigger numbers on elites and specs. I know it was done because of request, but I hope it doesn't go that route.